It is mixture of different flavors together comprising of all the flavors of 1 recipe. It is when you get tired of adding .02ml of xyz and .01ml of another an so on......every time you make that mix.
Code for Dropper Bottles is DIY. Just ordered 200 15ml since I like those better for testing recipes.
Well if you decide to use that recipe a lot, you may want to fill that 30 ml up with your flavors. I think ELR calculator may just do a 'stone' calculation. Not sure. That way you would just use a % to make a recipe for vaping. To figure what % you may want to use is to figure out what % the flavors equal now in a single mix. The calculator may even have a spot for that also....
We are all “chemists” in our own way. The scientific method is defined as: “The systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.” Sounds like trial and error diy to meThanks Nola. There are several different issues also in those threads. I am just going to concentrate on whether you can steep a super concentrated liquid. I am not a chemist so the HOW of the break down on nic in the flavors and the aging process is better left to those educated in that field. It is only through experience and some minor testing that we observe what we think is happening.
ECF did have a few chemists members who graced us with their knowledge but I haven't seen them in quite some time......
. To reach a solid hypothesis doesn’t require a science degree
Thank youCrickets......please do not allow
Fran I have a bottle of HA Italian Cream that I will use to test my hypothesis. Joel and Myk are concerned that such a small amount of the nic solution used is not enough to steep the bottle with such a high concentration of flavor. So I will take one for the team and test it. The figures work on paper but in RL may produce undesired results. I am sorry for derailing the thread. Did not mean to run everyone else off.......
From my understanding there are stones an one shots. One shots are just the flavors of a recipe you premix and just add a % to your base as needed. Stones are usually something like a strawberry using several brands to add to a mix as a single strawberry. I think a stone for some reason the percentage needs to equal 10% so you may need to add pg to reach the that mark. The stone thing I still find confusing.
Actually I have seen a stone described as both of these variants. I see no reason as to why it can't be applied to both. It is only recently that one shots name became popular and yes you are correct. That is what vendors call them. Maybe I am just too old school and need to re-educate myself to get with the current times. I hate to learn things I have to unlearn,.......if that makes any sense. LOL
I think the only real difference between one shots and stones is how the calculator defines them. As far as some posts I've read on various forums a one shot is every flavor in a recipe and a stone is what flavors you combine to make a whole single flavor and use within a recipe at say 3% along with the the other flavor ingredients.
I could well be wrong. On another thread a while back there were many of us confused by the stone thing.That definitely makes things more defined and clearer. Thanks for setting the record straight.
This really does not apply to Frans situation tho. This is more for like menthol crystals, powdered em, things that are already so strong they have to be diluted. Not the same as what Fran wants.
eta but it will work as you stated. It is just that ingredient is steeped while the rest of the ingredients are not. That was why I was asking how long she is steeping the rest of the bottle. She is waiting an additional 3-4 weeks anyway so I am not sure this whole idea isn't self defeating.
The original idea of the 'stone'(don't have a clue as to why it was named that other than consistency) was to make mixing easier and more consistent for those wanting to be accurate in repeating their diy mixes. They did not have benefits of readily available equipment to use or many recipes in which to choose from, most calculations used long hand, etc. So if they found combinations that they liked they wanted to be able to keep doing it easily, accurately and quickly whether it was for single-mixed flavor combinations or a whole recipe. Well you get the picture.I could well be wrong. On another thread a while back there were many of us confused by the stone thing.
OK,you just answered my question. Ty
The original idea of the 'stone'(don't have a clue as to why it was named that other than consistency) was to make mixing easier and more consistent for those wanting to be accurate in repeating their diy mixes. They did not have benefits of readily available equipment to use or many recipes in which to choose from, most calculations used long hand, etc. So if they found combinations that they liked they wanted to be able to keep doing it easily, accurately and quickly whether it was for single-mixed flavor combinations or a whole recipe. Well you get the picture.
Today is a whole different environment where for anyone who wants to mix, its a relatively straight forward process. To separate the different functions that originally comprised the name of stone, it makes sense to separate and rename 1 of them. At least this is how I am seeing it. I could be wrong also. So I always say, if it fits wear it. If it makes no sense throw it away.
