Random DIY mixing and More

[Myk]

Ok. A couple of things. I know most of ya'all don't smell your flavors and I did make myself wait until all 3 bottles were mixed before doing so. I can tell why some people are saying there is a dairy/cheesy type of flavor that comes out with longer steeps. While no where near the overwhelming smell of the bb milkshake, the Italian Cream does have that same distinct flavor smell to it. Trusting that it will eventually steep out.

I plan on waiting the 8-9 weeks before testing, so if anyone wants it done before that you gotta let me know.

@FranC ---I sure hope you end up loving this flavor cause there is a distinct possibility I will be sending all I have to you for use in your mixes.....LOL

I always smell. If it doesn't smell good I'm waiting.
And if it doesn't smell good I don't want it in my tank 16" away from my nose. Last night I was wondering who had egg rolls. I was smelling the plum coming from my pocket as sweet and sour sauce.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I was wondering because many one shots claim shake n vape. Although with Ace and Queen I found that not to be so true.

So far from the 0mg TFA Strawberry it's looking like nicotine has something to do with the color change, there is no hint of coloring going on.
So any aging like that probably only comes in the completed mix but if it's a shake n vape recipe I could see where the one shot would have them pre-married so they could be a real fast shake n vape. Coupled with premixed base remixing day could go really fast.




Ahh, the joys of tank mixing gone wrong.
I haven't tried that coolant but judging from what I have tried I agree with Letitia and it's in your wick. Not entirely a bad thing, that is what I'm after with my Doublemint but it doesn't sound like it's working for you.

It did work out for me and MTS when I tried a drop in a tank.

"I was wondering because many one shots claim shake n vape. Although with Ace and Queen I found that not to be so true.

So far from the 0mg TFA Strawberry it's looking like nicotine has something to do with the color change, there is no hint of coloring going on.
So any aging like that probably only comes in the completed mix but if it's a shake n vape recipe I could see where the one shot would have them pre-married so they could be a real fast shake n vape. Coupled with premixed base remixing day could go really fast."

I have not tried any other vendor one shots except for Onestopdiyshop. I know the owner has them made from a flavor maker so that process is probably kept under wraps. The ones I use need very little steeping if any at all.

I have been pleasantly surprised at some of the WF that are not advertised as one shots but turn to be just that. The Hazelnut and Cream and the Roasted Pecan(it does contain cream) is what I am referring to. While for me the HC does taste great after overnight steeping and the Roasted Pecan took a week, not another ingredient was needed for them to be delicious.

 

[Fidola13]

I’ve been having a craving for pear this week. I’m thinking of mixing a recipe of Pear Signature and Fuji Apple FA but I need/want something else to round it out.

I’ve looked at most recipe sites but the pear always ends up with cream or custard.

I want something “fresh” slightly tart with “depth” if that makes sense.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks

 

[NolaMel]

I’ve been having a craving for pear this week. I’m thinking of mixing a recipe of Pear Signature and Fuji Apple FA but I need/want something else to round it out.

I’ve looked at most recipe sites but the pear always ends up with cream or custard.

I want something “fresh” slightly tart with “depth” if that makes sense.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks

One of my first mixes was a pear/apple with a bit each of dragon fruit and honeysuckle. I did another with either blood orange or grapefruit (sorry, bottles are in the back of the house). I like sweet and tart, makes a nice balance

 

[dmska]

I made my first mix with vta pudding base. By itself it smells almost cake-like and buttery. I mixed it with banana puree (wf) and Kentucky bourbon. I'm not sure what I'm going for but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I’ve been having a craving for pear this week. I’m thinking of mixing a recipe of Pear Signature and Fuji Apple FA but I need/want something else to round it out.

I’ve looked at most recipe sites but the pear always ends up with cream or custard.

I want something “fresh” slightly tart with “depth” if that makes sense.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks

You could try some of FA forest fruit flavor. Or maybe a honeydew, or kiwi?

 

[ceeceeisme]

I have been pleasantly surprised at some of the WF that are not advertised as one shots but turn to be just that. The Hazelnut and Cream and the Roasted Pecan(it does contain cream) is what I am referring to. While for me the HC does taste great after overnight steeping and the Roasted Pecan took a week, not another ingredient was needed for them to be delicious.

They are good on their own and so is the Butterscotch Cream Pie

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

They are good on their own and so is the Butterscotch Cream Pie

That sounds really good right now. I used to vape a butterscotch/almond flavor. So much so I burned out on it. LOL Oh that, and butterscotch cookies, and snickerdoodle, and..................
Must be dinner time.
Thanks for the suggestion.....

 

[FranC]

Ok. A couple of things. I know most of ya'all don't smell your flavors and I did make myself wait until all 3 bottles were mixed before doing so. I can tell why some people are saying there is a dairy/cheesy type of flavor that comes out with longer steeps. While no where near the overwhelming smell of the bb milkshake, the Italian Cream does have that same distinct flavor smell to it. Trusting that it will eventually steep out.

I plan on waiting the 8-9 weeks before testing, so if anyone wants it done before that you gotta let me know.

@FranC ---I sure hope you end up loving this flavor cause there is a distinct possibility I will be sending all I have to you for use in your mixes.....LOL

You made me sniff my bottle but I don't think it smells too bad

 

[IDJoel]

I was wondering because many one shots claim shake n vape.

And there is probably a lot of truth in that. It all depends on how the recipe is formulated. If one uses only ingredients that don't require any (serious) aging; then it is more or less a SnV.

There used to be a mixer on ECF, that even mixed commercially, who steadfastly maintained ,that he could mix any TFA concentrate (he ONLY used TFA) to be SnV. It was merely a matter of getting the correct amount, and right combination (and a fair amount of vape testing during the creation process). He became one of ECF's leading voices for "High Flavor (percentage) Mixing." He routinely mixed between 20-33% total flavoring.

He believed; if one used enough flavor in the beginning, there was no need to wait for flavors to develop or "bloom." They would be there from the get-go. Furthermore, the proper mix remained stable... usually. (In the rare instance, he did find stability issues, he would add a small amount of citric acid, and that would stabilize it.)

I am not promoting this style of mixing (though I don't discourage it either; to each their own). I only share it to show a different point of view.

So far from the 0mg TFA Strawberry it's looking like nicotine has something to do with the color change, there is no hint of coloring going on.

Color change was never a useful indicator for me. I found little, to no, correlation to the actual taste of the liquid.

As for your experiment (TFA Strawberry with/without nic); an interesting third test (I think) would be a nic with no flavor sample (basically a PG/VG/nic blend at the same nic level as the TFA Strawberry with nic). I would be curious to see how the color change compares to the other two.

 

[dc99]

I’ve been having a craving for pear this week. I’m thinking of mixing a recipe of Pear Signature and Fuji Apple FA but I need/want something else to round it out.

I’ve looked at most recipe sites but the pear always ends up with cream or custard.

I want something “fresh” slightly tart with “depth” if that makes sense.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks

TFA the only pear you have? I do not like it alone but that being said pear is good with apple and peaches

 

[FranC]

Ok I have about a half bottle of the 1% HA IC left mixed July 19th. A test of the cream brought a mild sweetness but otherwise unremarkable flavor. I tried my Strawberry Rhubarb Cheesecake mixed with 1% cream and it is tasty but I'm undecided at this time if I prefer it with or without. Then I tried my Chocolate Raspberry Cheesecake with 1% cream and the cream really tastes good in this one. That's all I did because the others really need to get at least a couple weeks on them.

 

[dmska]

They are good on their own and so is the Butterscotch Cream Pie

What % did you vape this as a stand alone? I think I used butter pecan pie and butterscotch cream pie at 5or 6 %. I'm also trying to find the right % to use wf honey roasted peanut.

 

[JCinFLA]

Bill's Magic Vapor (ex-commercial eliquid maker, well-known and loved ECF member, a wealth of info. on DIY, etc.) was someone I learned a lot from in my early days of DIY. I tried many of his recipes, read his blog (there's a wealth of info. in it by the way), followed him on the TFA thread, etc. He's not been active for awhile now on ECF, but I still regularly use some of his techniques, hints & suggestions, etc. and I refer back to a file I have saved with a bunch of his "stuff".

One of his methods used to easily make various eliquid recipes was to make what he called "bases". (I've always thought he probably used these as a commercial mixer.) Specific flavorings are mixed to make each specific "base" type. That 1 base could then be turned into any number of different eliquids of that "type"...by simply adding a different single primary flavoring to the base. I'm thinking those "bases" were probably a type of "stone", as people are calling them nowadays.

Here are a few of them below and his recommendations for using each one. All flavorings are TFA unless otherwise noted. He is/was a high total flavoring % guy. But it's easy to cut that down. At first, I made them as written, but I've found that cutting each by 1/2 is still flavorful enough, for me.

For several years, I made 120mL or larger bottles of several of his bases. I'd then just pull off some of the "base" and add a single Primary flavoring to make my individual recipes. Worked like a charm for me.

Custard - Make a custard eliquid by adding any single flavoring to this mix. You just need to work out the % for that flavoring. It's usually going to be between about 7-13%. Starting at no more than 7% for stronger flavorings would be best.

Cotton Candy 7%
Vanilla Custard 6%
Bavarian Cream 6%

Creams - This cream recipe is great with fruits and just about anything else. Add a single primary flavor ingredient to this, in the 10-15% range. I would start at 10% and increase until you find the sweet spot.

Sweet Cream - 5%
Vanilla Swirl - 5%
Hazelnut - 2-3%
Honey - 3%
Sweetener - 2-3%

Vanilla Milkshake Base - Add about 5% of any fruit flavoring to make that flavor milkshake.

VBIC - 10%
Marshmallow - 5%
French Vanilla Deluxe - 4%
Sweetener - 3%
Dulce de Leche - 2%
Koolada - 1%

He also has bases for cobbler, danish, and pies.

 

[IDJoel]

I’ve been having a craving for pear this week. I’m thinking of mixing a recipe of Pear Signature and Fuji Apple FA but I need/want something else to round it out.

I’ve looked at most recipe sites but the pear always ends up with cream or custard.

I want something “fresh” slightly tart with “depth” if that makes sense.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks

"Tart" is going to be kind of tough with those two; both are for the most part "sweet." I would look to LA Tart & Sour, or similar, to get that. Small amounts of grapefruit or rhubarb may also be useful.

Depth is a bit easier. Meringue, or marshmallow, will both add depth without changing flavor profile much. Caramel is a popular combination, with pear and/or apple, and also adds richness. Coconut is another that can add complexity, and some depth. A touch of cinnamon is good for giving a suggestion of "cooked" fruit, and can add a bit of complexity, but doesn't add much depth on its own. Bakery (Pie Crust, Graham Cracker, Danish) can all add depth, and take the fruit in more of a pastry direction.

 

[IDJoel]

Bill's Magic Vapor (ex-commercial eliquid maker, well-known and loved ECF member, a wealth of info. on DIY, etc.) was someone I learned a lot from in my early days of DIY.

That's funny we were both thinking of Bill.

 

[FranC]

Day after tomorrow I'll be trying my Stixx A+. It will be i week old. @ceeceeisme Tried her A+ at one week and really liked it in her recipe. I'll be trying mine solo.

 

[PJReid]

The FE Lemon may not fade as fast but I find it wicked sweet. More so than FA Lemon Sicily

Our taste buds are certainly unique to us. I don't find the FE Lemon to be much sweeter, if any, than FA Lemon Sicily. Have you tried INW Lemon Mix? It will fade, but does have a zing to it. My solution to lemon fading is to make only a couple of weeks worth at a time. That will be interesting when I go back East for my birth of my middle daughter's baby. I will have to take several weeks of juice with me because all of my mixing supplies are here, in Washington State.

 

[FranC]

That's funny we were both thinking of Bill.

I got a lot of ideas from Bill but could never vape his high flavor recipes. Even back then it was way too much flavor for me.

 

[FranC]

Our taste buds are certainly unique to us. I don't find the FE Lemon to be much sweeter, if any, than FA Lemon Sicily. Have you tried INW Lemon Mix? It will fade, but does have a zing to it. My solution to lemon fading is to make only a couple of weeks worth at a time. That will be interesting when I go back East for my birth of my middle daughter's baby. I will have to take several weeks of juice with me because all of my mixing supplies are here, in Washington State.

I do have INW Lemon Mix but will have to do a sft. I'm pretty certain I found it sweet.