Let me know what you work out. I wouldn’t have picked sweet rice as being even mildly appealing to me in a vape, but it’s a keeper with adv potential
I will. I am just feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment. That last buying binge has left me with too many "I want it now" choices to make. I have a slew of booze flavors, grapefruit flavors, cucumber flavors, a couple of kiw flavors, and the basil flavor; that I want to use all right NOW. Plus, now I have thrown watermelon back into the mix as well.Oh,please do
And... that is ignoring the Stixx Mixx series I have going, 5 additional tobaccos from my previous order still to be tested (and the 5 more that are in current testing), and doesn't include my one "what the heck" indulgence buy of VTA's Croissant. I don't know what it may be like; but, if it works, I can see a new bakery alternative to cookie, pie crust, Danish, or graham cracker. Oh, and I forgot about the half dozen flavors I got for mixing specific recipes that sounded too good not to try. Oh! And,... oh never mind... the list just keep going.
Did I mention I am overwhelmed???
)I just keep thinking of what a past supervisor always used to tell me, whenever I belly-ached about the impossible workload: "Joel, how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."
I will keep chipping away; I just gotta figure what comes next.
I have always bought mine from Wizard Labs. However, I don't see it on their sight anymore.
The only other two places, that I know (with any certainty) still offering it, are:
High Desert Vapes
and TFA directly. To find it on TFA; one needs to sign up for a free wholesale account. They offer smaller sizes there as well ( if I recall correctly; you need to ask for it via email).
I imagine there are also others selling it too; but that means one would have to do some more legwork.
It is a useful (and unique) concentrate, that offers most/all the characteristics of pineapple, with absolutely none of the sweet (though I reserve that last part; in the case of you, Fran
). It has (to me) what I think of as a mostly traditional "pineapple" flavor, and a moderate citrus bite (not quite crossing the threshold to tart/sour).I would not describe it as a very "dominating" flavor (I have never found it trying to take over a recipe), and I would not consider it as a "primary" concentrate. But, when you want the benefits of a pineapple, that knows how to stay in the background, and doesn't add to the "sweet" side of the ledger... it has proved itself useful.
Is it a "mist have" to me? No. But, I have found it useful, when mixing others recipes, that used low percents of other pineapples that still just seemed too much.
Fran, if you have problems finding it, or want to try before you buy, PM me. I would be happy to send you enough to make a tester or two, gratis.
All opinions/perceptions are welcome... and appreciated! Thank you, Letitia.
I understand that all palates are unique. I am desiring more of a spectrum of perceptions (hoping I might fall somewhere in between extremes). Rather than holding one individual's feet to the fire; and demand they be right (for my palate).
Okay, Fran; a totally wild, out-of-the-blue, question. Don't even ask me what made me think of it.
Have you ever taken one of these "too sweet; but not as sweet" flavor tests, and tried it again at a higher percentage?
You describe this as having "lost" some of the "heavy sweetness" above; and a few posts later as it having a nondescript fruit flavor.
As I read these, I thought to myself that; "sweet" (in and of itself) does not "steep" out. Flavors can build around it, and push it to the background. Or, flavors can fade, moving sweetness forward. But, "sweet" itself doesn't really change.
That, coupled with the "nondescript fruit" comment just got me to thinking that you might(?) actually be underflavoring. Which, in turn, might(?) not be providing enough of the primary taste/flavor to properly "mask" the sweet you are perceiving (thusly; the sweet starts out/becomes too much).
It should be easy enough to test; simply take a "too sweet" sample, and add more concentrate. The original mix "seeds" the addition; so additional aging should be comparatively quick.
I have no idea; this is a complete, 100%, wild arsed guess.
I just haven't seen anyone ask the question, since this thread's inseption.Someone, on this thread, was addressing that very idea... recently.
Foods (and drinks) that we dearly love to eat; don't always translate into good vapes:
Beef Stroganoff? ahhhh... pass.
Grean salad? ammm.... no thank you; Im trying to cut back.
Pizza & Beer? Oh, HECK NO!
Sea Urchin Sushi? Heavens! I'm going to be ill!!!
Bourbon Bread Pudding, w/ Raisins and pecans, and a dollop of Whipped Cream? What the hec... wait a minute... I'll be right back. I gotta go scribble down a recipe!!!
Okay, forget the last one; that's a bad example. But, why shouldn't the converse be true as well? Flavor pairings, that may not be ideal in real life (at least as we think of it), just might be a match made in heaven when it comes to vaping.
After all, what is a Nestle's Crunch bar, but chocolate and rice. Didn't they even make a white chocolate version of this too? (And that a "real food" pairing to boot.
)
Yup. First I lost $160 for a few days. Luckily that turned up. Now I'm missing all 12 of my P2's and P2.5's. I'm sure they'll turn up. I think.
Obviously, I'm a little ways from mixing right now.
Obviously, I'm a little ways from mixing right now.
Sounds like one of my average days in Las Vegas
. That's why I quit going... I never found mine again.
I am glad all (hopefully) is well.
You sure do sound just a tad overwhelmed but I have faith you will get thereI will. I am just feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment. That last buying binge has left me with too many "I want it now" choices to make. I have a slew of booze flavors, grapefruit flavors, cucumber flavors, a couple of kiw flavors, and the basil flavor; that I want to use all right NOW. Plus, now I have thrown watermelon back into the mix as well.
And... that is ignoring the Stixx Mixx series I have going, 5 additional tobaccos from my previous order still to be tested (and the 5 more that are in current testing), and doesn't include my one "what the heck" indulgence buy of VTA's Croissant. I don't know what it may be like; but, if it works, I can see a new bakery alternative to cookie, pie crust, Danish, or graham cracker. Oh, and I forgot about the half dozen flavors I got for mixing specific recipes that sounded too good not to try. Oh! And,... oh never mind... the list just keep going.
Did I mention I am overwhelmed???(Yeah... I bit off more than I can chew.
I just keep thinking of what a past supervisor always used to tell me, whenever I belly-ached about the impossible workload: "Joel, how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."
I will keep chipping away; I just gotta figure what comes next.
I have always bought mine from Wizard Labs. However, I don't see it on their sight anymore.
The only other two places, that I know (with any certainty) still offering it, are:
High Desert Vapes
and TFA directly. To find it on TFA; one needs to sign up for a free wholesale account. They offer smaller sizes there as well ( if I recall correctly; you need to ask for it via email).
I imagine there are also others selling it too; but that means one would have to do some more legwork.
It is a useful (and unique) concentrate, that offers most/all the characteristics of pineapple, with absolutely none of the sweet (though I reserve that last part; in the case of you, Fran
I would not describe it as a very "dominating" flavor (I have never found it trying to take over a recipe), and I would not consider it as a "primary" concentrate. But, when you want the benefits of a pineapple, that knows how to stay in the background, and doesn't add to the "sweet" side of the ledger... it has proved itself useful.
Is it a "mist have" to me? No. But, I have found it useful, when mixing others recipes, that used low percents of other pineapples that still just seemed too much.
Fran, if you have problems finding it, or want to try before you buy, PM me. I would be happy to send you enough to make a tester or two, gratis.
All opinions/perceptions are welcome... and appreciated! Thank you, Letitia.
I understand that all palates are unique. I am desiring more of a spectrum of perceptions (hoping I might fall somewhere in between extremes). Rather than holding one individual's feet to the fire; and demand they be right (for my palate).
Okay, Fran; a totally wild, out-of-the-blue, question. Don't even ask me what made me think of it.
Have you ever taken one of these "too sweet; but not as sweet" flavor tests, and tried it again at a higher percentage?
You describe this as having "lost" some of the "heavy sweetness" above; and a few posts later as it having a nondescript fruit flavor.
As I read these, I thought to myself that; "sweet" (in and of itself) does not "steep" out. Flavors can build around it, and push it to the background. Or, flavors can fade, moving sweetness forward. But, "sweet" itself doesn't really change.
That, coupled with the "nondescript fruit" comment just got me to thinking that you might(?) actually be underflavoring. Which, in turn, might(?) not be providing enough of the primary taste/flavor to properly "mask" the sweet you are perceiving (thusly; the sweet starts out/becomes too much).
It should be easy enough to test; simply take a "too sweet" sample, and add more concentrate. The original mix "seeds" the addition; so additional aging should be comparatively quick.
I have no idea; this is a complete, 100%, wild arsed guess.
I did add a bit more flavor to my Pink Panther sample just for giggles. The flavor itself smells wicked sweet to me so I don't hold much hope.
I'd love to try a sample of the Sea Buckthorn if you have enough. Will pm. Thank you
For me, vape flavors have nothing to do with the real thing. In rl I hate cheesecakeSomeone, on this thread, was addressing that very idea... recently.
Foods (and drinks) that we dearly love to eat; don't always translate into good vapes:
Beef Stroganoff? ahhhh... pass.
Grean salad? ammm.... no thank you; Im trying to cut back.
Pizza & Beer? Oh, HECK NO!
Sea Urchin Sushi? Heavens! I'm going to be ill!!!
Bourbon Bread Pudding, w/ Raisins and pecans, and a dollop of Whipped Cream? What the hec... wait a minute... I'll be right back. I gotta go scribble down a recipe!!!
Okay, forget the last one; that's a bad example. But, why shouldn't the converse be true as well? Flavor pairings, that may not be ideal in real life (at least as we think of it), just might be a match made in heaven when it comes to vaping.
After all, what is a Nestle's Crunch bar, but chocolate and rice. Didn't they even make a white chocolate version of this too? (And that a "real food" pairing to boot.
My recipe search last night was focused on Peanut Butter so I have 4 recipes with pb and 1 tea. One is a Cereal bar that's just using the pb as an accent flavor. My hopes are to get that and the tea mixed today.
My main focus is trying the Stixx A+ and I'll be filling a tank shortly.
I'm still killing time til the next wave of mixes.Just 3 more days now. Lazy really helps too. I haven't even tried the 2 mixes I can try now
My main focus is trying the Stixx A+ and I'll be filling a tank shortly.
I'm still killing time til the next wave of mixes.Just 3 more days now. Lazy really helps too. I haven't even tried the 2 mixes I can try now
Fran you were right, the VTA chocolate mousse is so good. Not sure if I will even use it in a mix. Going to mix a sf for the tank and see how it does. For myself dripping testers isn't accurate to how something will taste in the rtas.
The VTA chocolate base clear is a good nondescript chocolate. I'm thinking a coffee mix will benefit from adding it in.
WF chocolate chunks I am liking as well. It and the VTA chocolate base should be a useful pairing. Might be a chocolate ic cone recipe added to the never ending to mix list.
The VTA chocolate base clear is a good nondescript chocolate. I'm thinking a coffee mix will benefit from adding it in.
WF chocolate chunks I am liking as well. It and the VTA chocolate base should be a useful pairing. Might be a chocolate ic cone recipe added to the never ending to mix list.
So glad you like them. Glad you mentioned the Chocolate Base. I think I'll skip that per your description. The VT Dark Chocolate is very good also. I have the Chocolate Custard coming. Thinking that will be my last (Outside of the HA Australian Chocolate) I really have a ton of chocolates..............
Early in our vaping journey we were all tobacco to start and I tried several NET's. They are,by nature, dark flavors. The Stixx A+ is clear as a bell and IMO this is not a NET. It does however have a distinct tobaccoish flavor. Going to try it out on hubs now.
Well,I'm my own with the Stixx. The no taste effect of chemo has come back and hubs can't taste much.
Somehow I got PUT back on this thread, forcibly by alerts. @DancingHeretik I hope your move smooths out some, oy. I may do testers today, I think I MIGHT because the husband had a giant meltdown and now doesn't want to move, but like, HE was pushing it, even BEFORE I got the job!! I had to tell him to shut up several times because frankly it was enough pressure ALREADY. I never once said, "Oh, I want to move as fast as possible!!!" Until he had insisted on it so repeatedly that like, I was like, "Okay, might as well get it over with man, I mean, he's not going to shut up about it OBVIOUSLY."
And in the process of his giant tantrummy meltdown he also told me he had not been taking his sleep med after I JUST got back wasting some of MY valuable psychiatrist time, addressing his "Propanalol sleep med depression," AND stopped at the pharmacy for a long time to FILL IT.
I have no CLUE why on earth anyone would behave that way, frankly. I was like, "I'm not MAD at you, but why would you LIE about everything to like THINK you are making me happy, only to make me MISERABLE for days on end and force me to spend like a WHOLE day driving around Cochese County looking at stuff when I will be making that drive SOON enough and you criticized my driving the whole time and if YOU don't want to move, well, guess what, we don't HAVE to move, or WE could PAY ALL OUR DEBT for a couple years and reevaluate THEN!""
Holy Christ, "I though I was doing what was best for you," he said. I was like, "It is definitely not in my best interests for you to LIE to me repeatedly and THEN act possessed by Satan the more you agree with your plans, and NO WONDER my pdoc looked "confused" by my speech I bet he didn't lie to him. Probably.. Maybe not.
Then he was like "You're a compassionate social worker why can't you be nicer to meeeee!!!"
And I was like, "YOUR therapist FIRED you is what happened. And, I also dislike when my clients lie to me, in fact, sometimes I reported them to CPS! So you are actually getting like, this gentle, spousal treatment because trust me I'd be yelling louder!"
Also, am very relieved at the need to not move At Once, starting new job is Hard Enough if you ask me, but he really needs to knock it off.
Also, like, maybe I won't mix, vitriol is never pleasant in a mix, I am TOTALLY a proponent of the energy you have at the given time totally affects everything in a mix, mine would probably all taste like wormwood and belladonna. LOL.
But, I also can just relax today instead of being all like, "I must MOVE immediately."
Oh, husband was all penitent but I just do not for the love of god understand the behavior. It's impossible to work with a person who is all manipulating you and "trying to make you happy" (which is the opposite of happy) and yea, we'll just see if the penitence lasts.
I did not know whether to go to an AA meeting or an al-anon meeting but settled on al-anon, given that I wanted to STRANGLE him.
Anna
And in the process of his giant tantrummy meltdown he also told me he had not been taking his sleep med after I JUST got back wasting some of MY valuable psychiatrist time, addressing his "Propanalol sleep med depression," AND stopped at the pharmacy for a long time to FILL IT.
I have no CLUE why on earth anyone would behave that way, frankly. I was like, "I'm not MAD at you, but why would you LIE about everything to like THINK you are making me happy, only to make me MISERABLE for days on end and force me to spend like a WHOLE day driving around Cochese County looking at stuff when I will be making that drive SOON enough and you criticized my driving the whole time and if YOU don't want to move, well, guess what, we don't HAVE to move, or WE could PAY ALL OUR DEBT for a couple years and reevaluate THEN!""
Holy Christ, "I though I was doing what was best for you," he said. I was like, "It is definitely not in my best interests for you to LIE to me repeatedly and THEN act possessed by Satan the more you agree with your plans, and NO WONDER my pdoc looked "confused" by my speech I bet he didn't lie to him. Probably.. Maybe not.
Then he was like "You're a compassionate social worker why can't you be nicer to meeeee!!!"
And I was like, "YOUR therapist FIRED you is what happened. And, I also dislike when my clients lie to me, in fact, sometimes I reported them to CPS! So you are actually getting like, this gentle, spousal treatment because trust me I'd be yelling louder!"
Also, am very relieved at the need to not move At Once, starting new job is Hard Enough if you ask me, but he really needs to knock it off.
Also, like, maybe I won't mix, vitriol is never pleasant in a mix, I am TOTALLY a proponent of the energy you have at the given time totally affects everything in a mix, mine would probably all taste like wormwood and belladonna. LOL.
But, I also can just relax today instead of being all like, "I must MOVE immediately."
Oh, husband was all penitent but I just do not for the love of god understand the behavior. It's impossible to work with a person who is all manipulating you and "trying to make you happy" (which is the opposite of happy) and yea, we'll just see if the penitence lasts.
I did not know whether to go to an AA meeting or an al-anon meeting but settled on al-anon, given that I wanted to STRANGLE him.
Anna
here’s where I’m at with the pear n apple recipe. My goal is a strong forward pear flavor with apple coming in 2nd,a light to medium mouthfeel or density with the marshmallow and a tad of kiwi to “brighten” the mix up.
Pear Signature 5%
Pear FA 4%.(Yeah I ordered more flavors)
Fuji Apple FA 3%
Marshmallow FA 1%
Kiwi FA 1%
I used ELR notes as a jumping off point for these %s. I actually like a higher flavor percentage but is I read again and again on here - it’s easier to add flavor than try to dilute a mix.
Suggestions definitely appreciated.
sara
Pear Signature 5%
Pear FA 4%.(Yeah I ordered more flavors
)Fuji Apple FA 3%
Marshmallow FA 1%
Kiwi FA 1%
I used ELR notes as a jumping off point for these %s. I actually like a higher flavor percentage but is I read again and again on here - it’s easier to add flavor than try to dilute a mix.
Suggestions definitely appreciated.
sara
Pear is one of those delicate flavors thats really easy to obliterate so you have to be really careful with pairings. Im not a fan of TFA per say but it has a use as a backup. If this one doesnt turn out the way you want switch the pears. I do 4%FA and 1.5TFA.here’s where I’m at with the pear n apple recipe. My goal is a strong forward pear flavor with apple coming in 2nd,a light to medium mouthfeel or density with the marshmallow and a tad of kiwi to “brighten” the mix up.
Pear Signature 5%
Pear FA 4%.(Yeah I ordered more flavors
Fuji Apple FA 3%
Marshmallow FA 1%
Kiwi FA 1%
I used ELR notes as a jumping off point for these %s. I actually like a higher flavor percentage but is I read again and again on here - it’s easier to add flavor than try to dilute a mix.
Suggestions definitely appreciated.
sara
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