Random DIY mixing and More

[FranC]

I know it, I just get carried away. Most of my mixes have been successes and I end up wishing I had made more. I end up thinking to myself, how could this be bad,
But in the end, I'll vape as much of it as I can, and if I dump em, I'm out less than 5$. Still worth the experience. I get excited when I get new flavorings and want to do a mix of flavorings so I come up with a recipe and make it. I also made sfts of both cherries ( I think ) at the same time.

Well I'm glad most of your mixes have been successful. Good for you

 

[NotSoMini]

I've actually never considered a 20ml bottle. Can't say I was aware of that size but I do have a few 5ml ones. When you mentioned them I looked on Amazon but the ones they have with dropper tops are quite expensive for some reason.

It appears we have a similar vaping style. I'm very much a flavor chaser also. Little clouds are fine with me

I wonder why the Amazon site did not come up in my search unless it was added after my search. Even the ones I got for free are expensive.

I do have a couple of sub ohm set ups that sit more than they are used

I actually have no need of bottles. I have a large excess of 30ml bottles that I can use for 15ml or 20ml mixes (again I never thought of 20ml). However if you don't have any use for your 15ml size I wouldn't mind taking them off your hands .

I will get with you later next week. Guest from Nottingham going home on Wednesday.

It's very icy today. The hospice nurse has called twice already just to see how he's doing. She'd rather not come out unless we have an emergency. She will be here in the morning she said. Very nice lady.

I am at a loss for words { }

 

[NotSoMini]

Can you share the site? Thanks!

The bottles are from https://www.gotoilsupplies.com. They offer one shipping rate of $9 no matter how little or how many are ordered.

 

[Heartsdelight]

The bottles are from https://www.gotoilsupplies.com. They offer one shipping rate of $9 no matter how little or how many are ordered.

Thanks!

 

[stols001]

I formally changed my NY resolution. I realized the one I made was not sane, "Try not to die." It's okay until you formalize it. I've been sicker and sicker everyday. You NEVER keep your NY resolutions

So, I switched it to, "I'm possibly dying." Instead of switching my suitcase into two smaller ones, I shouldered it and clutched my towel wrapped monitor on the other side. The stairs were fine. I am home sooner than I thought because I was like, "I'm just gonna go with how my car would like to go." I know what going 95 miles an hour in my Mazda feels like now, and it's fine. (I was pretty careful about no Nyquil or anything) but I vaped at inappropriate times a bit. Like , while passing trucks, possibly. It seemed fine, to be frank. I was just that bit less responsible than I COULD be, but nothing that would get me jailed. It's only a felony to go 20 miles over the speed limit and the ones in AZ are INSANE.

I've been way too responsible lately! I needed a shift in attitude! It was nice. I'm glad I switched it. I feel a LOT better. Some of it's meds, probably but also... attitude. I went from great LACK of responsibility to A TON of it. So like, I needed a more adolescent approach, where like, sometimes you do things that may be a tad iffy. I am working on striking a balance, I don't actually want to hit a truck, but like also, I was sort of fairly confident I wouldn't.

Like, I got home, and I was singing (inadvisably, I am hoarse) and dancing (always inadvisable) in the car with the Score turned up really loud and the husband was there (also sick, and smoking, oh boy) for about 5 minutes and then opened the car door so he could hear the song, etc.

Then, I nebulized and now I am drinking Theraflu. I unpacked, but partially. Etc.

I also brought home what I think is vape juice that tastes like base, slightly sweetened base, I have no clue what it is but it tastes like ABSOLUTE nothing. I have 100 ml of it so I am going to separate it out and go Pink Champagne crazy with it.

I really hope it's vape juice not douche or something, but I think it's vape juice. I have never (voluntarily) purchased douche.

Anna

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Well, I made a couple forays into the cherry frontier recently with INW Sweet Cherry and INW Black Cherry, and both mixes I made with them are fails I think. Steeped two weeks but I don't think they'll get better with age.


The cookie tastes like a crunch berry cereal... box. The cardboard part.
And the custard tastes like a cardboard cherry halls. So sad. Of coarse I made 50 mls of each. Really don't know where these went wrong except in the cherry flavoring. Going back to FW Wild Cherry I guess.

Cherry is a really hard flavoring to master. Also, you have coconut and custard together in 1 mix, I would give it at least a months steep. Coconut can take a while to mature as well as the custard, together--who knows. Lose the bottle in the back of the cubbard for a while....give it lots of time.

just my 2 pennies

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Well, I made a couple forays into the cherry frontier recently with INW Sweet Cherry and INW Black Cherry, and both mixes I made with them are fails I think. Steeped two weeks but I don't think they'll get better with age.


The cookie tastes like a crunch berry cereal... box. The cardboard part.
And the custard tastes like a cardboard cherry halls. So sad. Of coarse I made 50 mls of each. Really don't know where these went wrong except in the cherry flavoring. Going back to FW Wild Cherry I guess.

Just wanted to add also that in the 1st recipe I think its the shortbread especially at that %. I didn't like it at all so I would lower it to 1 or under. It just doesn't have a very good taste- imo- and if mixing low with the biscuit maybe it would blend in better?

 

[FranC]

Just wanted to add also that in the 1st recipe I think its the shortbread especially at that %. I didn't like it at all so I would lower it to 1 or under. It just doesn't have a very good taste- imo- and if mixing low with the biscuit maybe it would blend in better?

Oh,you do not like the shortbread? What does it taste like to you?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Oh,you do not like the shortbread? What does it taste like to you?

Oh, I like shortbread just not the WF one. The WF Shortbread has a odd sour note to it, almost like it is rancid or stale, at least to me. Probably not the best description but it was very noticeable and stood out in the mix. I will try to mix the recipe again(later this month) and use probably INW. That one I like.

 

[FranC]

Oh, I like shortbread just not the WF one. The WF Shortbread has a odd sour note to it, almost like it is rancid or stale, at least to me. Probably not the best description but it was very noticeable and stood out in the mix. I will try to mix the recipe again(later this month) and use probably INW. That one I like.

That's the one I don't have.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

That's the one I don't have.

Well Fran, it may be you will like it? I think it may be ok if used at a lower % than what was in @uthinkofsomething post. And you know my taste can be a little on the sensitive side with some flavorings.....

 

[Heartsdelight]

That's the one I don't have.

BCF is getting the INW Shortbread in.

 

[FranC]

BCF is getting the INW Shortbread in.

Well,that's good news if I don't like the WF.

 

[uthinkofsomething]

Just wanted to add also that in the 1st recipe I think its the shortbread especially at that %. I didn't like it at all so I would lower it to 1 or under. It just doesn't have a very good taste- imo- and if mixing low with the biscuit maybe it would blend in better?

You are very possibly correct. WF Shortbread Cookie was also new to me, mostly. I originally did a 5% sft of that and it was ripe, not what I was expecting. 3% seemed like a reasonable try. All and all the cherry cookie tastes more like a dark cherry bread at best right now. But I get some cardboard-esqueness in the other one as well, I think part of it is the Sweet Cherry.

 

[uthinkofsomething]

Oh,you do not like the shortbread? What does it taste like to you?

Are you familiar with Purilum Cream Cheese Danish with Toasted Almonds? I get the same main flavoring in that as the wf shortbread. CCD has a little more going on but very similar to me. If you like the danish you would like wf shortbread I would think.

 

[IDJoel]

Really don't know where these went wrong except in the cherry flavoring.

Disclaimer: I have used neither of these cherry concentrates... so this is 100% wild rumped guessing.
That said, these are my thoughts looking at the recipes.

Cherry Caramel Cookie-
1.5% Black Cherry INW
2 Sweet Cherry INW
3 Shortbread Cookie WF
1.5 Caramel Butter WF
1 Biscuit INW

First thing I see, is two cherries being used, and at a (relatively) high cumulative total of 3.5%
I would have chosen only one to start; and at only 1% (at the most! More likely, I would consider 0.75% as a better beginning.).

Generally speaking, the majority of cherry concentrates (regardless of brand), are more/most(?) often described as "very strong." This is why my reasoning for starting very conservatively.

Also, if this was a recipe I was really wanting to succeed; I would have worked on this in stages.

If I knew the cookie base was good (the WF & INW)(if I hadn't tried this particular combo; I would begin with only that); I would start with that and one cherry; and see how that performed. Then decide if the cheek needed adjustment (higher/lower, or a secondary supporting cherry). Only when that was to my liking, would I think about adding a caramel note.

I know this is a more painstaking process. But, it offers the advantage of identifying the offending ingredient.

Note: I am assuming (based on recipe name, and current percentages used) that this was intended to have a cookie base, with a primary cherry profile, and a caramel accent. If it was to be a cookie base, with a caramel primary/dominant note, and cherry accent; I would build in that order instead.

(Further Disclaimer: I have only used ONE flavor (INW-Biscuit) out of the 5 you have chosen... so this is REALLY being pulled out of my rear.)


And, for this recipe:

Cherry Coconut Custard-
3.5% Coconut Custard WF
1 Coconut CAP
1.5 Custard INW
2 Sweet Cherry INW

Again, I would at least halve the cherry to start. ).75-1.0% seems safer(?).

Also again, if I really had interest in this working; I would build this in layers. Get the custard base correct first. Then, tweak the coconut note (since that is incorporated as part of the custard). And, only once that is good, would I start including the cherry.

(Final Disclaimer: Like the previous recipe, I have only used ONE flavor (INW-Custard) out of the 4 you have chosen. )


You mentioned mixing up cherry SFTs at the same time you made the above recipes. But, you didn't say what you thought of them. Did you try them? And, if you did; what did you think of them?

 

[NolaMel]

Well Fran, it may be you will like it? I think it may be ok if used at a lower % than what was in @uthinkofsomething post. And you know my taste can be a little on the sensitive side with some flavorings.....

I don’t get anything weird out of the WF, but there’s no predicting taste buds, as we’ve all discovered.

 

[NolaMel]

You are very possibly correct. WF Shortbread Cookie was also new to me, mostly. I originally did a 5% sft of that and it was ripe, not what I was expecting. 3% seemed like a reasonable try. All and all the cherry cookie tastes more like a dark cherry bread at best right now. But I get some cardboard-esqueness in the other one as well, I think part of it is the Sweet Cherry.

I’m going to go out on a (I probably don’t know w.t.f. I'm talking about) limb... does “cardboard” equate to “dry”? Maybe a touch of marshmallow would help? I see custard, but is it creamy, or eggy? Idk... listen to Joel. He actually knows of what he speaks

 

[uthinkofsomething]

Disclaimer: I have used neither of these cherry concentrates... so this is 100% wild rumped guessing.
That said, these are my thoughts looking at the recipes.

First thing I see, is two cherries being used, and at a (relatively) high cumulative total of 3.5%
I would have chosen only one to start; and at only 1% (at the most! More likely, I would consider 0.75% as a better beginning.).

Generally speaking, the majority of cherry concentrates (regardless of brand), are more/most(?) often described as "very strong." This is why my reasoning for starting very conservatively.

Also, if this was a recipe I was really wanting to succeed; I would have worked on this in stages.

If I knew the cookie base was good (the WF & INW)(if I hadn't tried this particular combo; I would begin with only that); I would start with that and one cherry; and see how that performed. Then decide if the cheek needed adjustment (higher/lower, or a secondary supporting cherry). Only when that was to my liking, would I think about adding a caramel note.

I know this is a more painstaking process. But, it offers the advantage of identifying the offending ingredient.

Note: I am assuming (based on recipe name, and current percentages used) that this was intended to have a cookie base, with a primary cherry profile, and a caramel accent. If it was to be a cookie base, with a caramel primary/dominant note, and cherry accent; I would build in that order instead.

(Further Disclaimer: I have only used ONE flavor (INW-Biscuit) out of the 5 you have chosen... so this is REALLY being pulled out of my rear.)


And, for this recipe:

Again, I would at least halve the cherry to start. ).75-1.0% seems safer(?).

Also again, if I really had interest in this working; I would build this in layers. Get the custard base correct first. Then, tweak the coconut note (since that is incorporated as part of the custard). And, only once that is good, would I start including the cherry.

(Final Disclaimer: Like the previous recipe, I have only used ONE flavor (INW-Custard) out of the 4 you have chosen. )


You mentioned mixing up cherry SFTs at the same time you made the above recipes. But, you didn't say what you thought of them. Did you try them? And, if you did; what did you think of them?

Just checked, I did not make sfts of either cherry. Obviously I was not very professional with these mixes. I love the breakdown of building a more complex recipe.
I have been focusing more on sfts lately and most of my last shipment of flavorings were sft'd. I'm getting there

 

[uthinkofsomething]

I’m going to go out on a (I probably don’t know w.t.f. I'm talking about) limb... does “cardboard” equate to “dry”? Maybe a touch of marshmallow would help? I see custard, but is it creamy, or eggy? Idk... listen to Joel. He actually knows of what he speaks

I mean actual cardboard box flavor. Or a fiber biscuit? And cherry.