K, been using the rayon for several days and getting to know what it responds well to. It's really hard to make this stuff perform poorly unless you really,
really over-stuff your coils, which I found was well past the point I needed and in the opposite direction from where my case of "post-vape sizzle" came from. Once I saw this post, it became clear what I was screwing up:
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The reason you see this is - when rayon started atomizers were completely old and restrictive. We're taking evods.
As times have changed, mega juice flow and air are the normal. You can get away with less trimming of the tails. It's all relative to the atties juice flow and power levels. As well as coil size.
With that said in the beginning I also used 32 gauge and had no problems getting rayon in whatsoever. Hold the coil with your fingers or nails at the end.. Just use a mini screw driver to evenly space and realign the coils afterwards. Or use the double insertion method.
Amount of wick and tails is all relative to your vape style.
At 30w in newer rtas it really almost doesn't matter how you do it. The lower the power the more you can get away with a looser wick.
Very important stuff here. I overstuffed my coils and didn't notice them being overstuffed because it flat out tasted better than cotton anyways. Just enough to get the squeaky feeling turned out to be sufficient, no leaks.
If I'm using a fused clapton or similar beefy wire in an RTA, I've found packing it full enough to make the coil move is simply
way too much.
Jeremy, you may want to revisit TC and I'd suggest DNA, Evolv, chips/boards. There is a major safety gain by using TC, for example I can vape and all stainless FEV3 bone dry and never get a burned or dry hit, the vapor just stops. Additionally, there is evidence that aldehydes increase, dramatically, above 450F and are primarily generated by VG. If I remember correctly, you vape high VG liquids. It's up to you and your own vaping style and preferences but I would feel remiss if I didn't mention this.
Yeah, TC is pretty consistent on quality boards. The Smoant Battlestar isn't a perfect device by any means, but it definitely ramps up almost instantly and fits in my pocket decently with the EXO's big tank on it. Most said that the TC felt 20-30 degrees warm on the SS default setting, so TCR is recommended.
Hello All. What is the best way to clean a coil without removing the rayon?
Coil Master makes a vape cleaning brush that has metal bristles on it. That might work. Get that gunk outta there and re-wick. You don't want to vape that.
But the coil is all black and crumbly-looking.
Pulse burn at low power in a well-ventilated area for gunk (Especially NETs since the gunk is ashtray-esque) or bathroom with fan running, stop when the gunk starts to burn on its own. It'll often keep burning but you may need to repeat this to get it all off. A lot of people advise against rinsing the coil off using the tap, but I do it anyways.
quit vaping net/gunky juice. i have 8 - 10 tanks in rotation and vape 100ml+ of diy juice (mostly now sweetener, some a little now stevia) per tank before I rewick and dry burn
I use the Now Stevia in Glycerite whenever I need something to get sweeter. I find it gunks coils a lot more slowly than any sweetened retail juice I've tried, maybe about at the same rate as some custards. I only ever get a "taste" of the sweetener if I take the wick way too close to a dry hit....not an easy feat, even more difficult with TC unless something's not right or I've tried to use some stupid flattened caterpillar track wires that weren't hammered evenly.
Made that one without butterscotch, used some extra caramel, and "accidentally" vaped it all before I added a NET I planned on putting in it.
Then there's the glass. Ceramic wick products like silica and ReadyXwick shed glass particles when drawn tightly through a coil. Next time you wick a coil with silica tap your atty deck on a piece of black construction paper and have a look through a magnifying glass. Not good and I'm not confident that any amount of rinsing with water would remove it all. That's the primary reason I stopped using ceramic wicking mediums, even before the health risks of vaping above 450°f were known or documented.
Vaping is a very personal thing and we all like what we like, sometimes for the same reasons, sometimes not. Each of us has to determine our own balance between safety and convenience. I'll admit, I liked being able to dryburn my coil without rewicking using ceramics but for me my health is more important.
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Absolutely this. The little aluminum-glass pieces flake off, float around, and stick to everything. Not only that, but I had one of those wicks in a Protank coil head a long time ago and it literally
crumbled apart when I finally went to change the coil out. I remember having to wash up very often, because if I got some of the XC/RxW freaky fiber flakes on my skin and did nothing I'd itch from them... too much like fiberglass.
The manufacturer themselves did research on the fibers (including a single rat study), and it still bothers me that I used the stuff in the past:
"Although Nextel fibers are classified as ceramic fibers, they are manufactured in continuous lengths and have diameters(approximately 7 to 13 microns) which are not considered to be respirable by humans. Since they are not considered to be respirable,inhalation exposure to Nextel 312, 440, 550,610, 650 or 720 fibers is not expected to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans. They may, however, cause mechanical irritation of the nose and throat. In certain operations, Nextel 312, 440, 550, 610, 650 and 720 Ceramic Fibers may break to form a dust, particularly if the sizing has been removed or the fibers have been exposed to high temperatures."...
..."In this study, Nextel 312 Ceramic Fiber dust caused lung inflammation with no evidence of more serious effects such as granulomas or fibrosis. From this study it was concluded that the potential for Nextel 312 Ceramic Fiber dust to cause pulmonary fibrosis or other significant lung injury is minimal."
-3M Ceramic Textiles and Composites
Health & Safety Bulletin 3M Nextel 312, 440, 550, 610, 650 & 720
The conditions to make this material brittle are literally being created in the heat-treating process to remove the toxins contained in the sizing... the batch I bought before the process was "improved" to remove a couple more percent of the toxic sizing, were updated to receive an even longer heat treating, which I would expect to mean a more brittle fiber, leading to potentially even more dust.
My gut is telling me to stay far away and to keep the last 3" I have left sealed up in the MacGuyver box.
While I will probably only ever vape Cellucotton unless I try medical-grade rayon in the future, it seems to hold together like a beast when wet. It is thermally conductive to the point it's almost as if the entire wick is drawing heat away from the coil, and it is highly difficult to singe.
I may revisit cotton in a while just to remember why I stopped using it in the first place, but rayon has even solved the condensation issues in some of my tanks.
If the vape is a little more saturated and cooler, and the coil isn't being allowed to get too warm via the insane wicking action providing plenty of juice flow, TC in the mix is just going to provide another layer of insurance against possible decomposition byproducts.
In comparison, cotton was quite dry and too close to being too hot, and dreadfully wasteful in respect to the delicious (and oftentimes
expensive) juices and flavors we enjoy getting stuck in the wick, rather than making it all the way to our coils.
Either way, those are just my thoughts on it.
Off I go to downmix some strawberry cactus stuff I mixed up for the hurricane that needs 2.5x dilution nicotine-wise.
Edit: I've forgotten to add a quote from several pages back about a user saying they didn't like the taste of rayon & that they were going back to cotton. Wicked correctly, it is tasteless. I could only taste the rayon when I put about twice the amount I needed in the coil.
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