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[dice57]

Well Jeremy, finally had a chance to try your Rayon, rebuilt the Aqua, vertically of course, at 0.21 ohms, wrapped the coils in Rayon, and have been vaping quite the storm.!!! Took a few minutes to break the wick in, but must say, this fiber wicks quite well. It's right up there with Ramie for sure. Will see how long she lasts. But yeah, thanks man, you are PIB in full dude.!!!

I've got about 5 builds to do, once I find where I put my 26 awg, hmm... any who, going to build both Rose2's with the same coil and wick one with Rayon and one with Ramie, and have a Wick Vape off, thinking exact same build and rba is the only way to judge the two.

I prejuiced my wick before wrapping my coil, find this way can get a more consistent wick coverage across the coils. Any who, a damn fine find. Slots is sending me a sample of that Cellucotton to try, it sounds like very similar to what the Rayon is. Been great swapping fibers back and forth, for the price of a stamp get to try new things. Love it.!!!!

Later Bud, thanks again.!!!

Where the frak is my wire.!!!!




Vape long and Prosper.!!!

 

[Aal_]

Don't use wicks as a diameter measuring reference, they're usually much bigger (+50% not unheard of) than their nominal size.. Ecowool, especially so.

As a reference (roughly):
1/16 = 1.6mm
5/64 = 2mm
1/8 = 3.2mm

and for those who care the smallest micro coil is
0.055" = 1.4mm

 

[Verb]

I just burned through tank of 100% VG in the black tobeco kayfun. Not a single dry hit. Using Sally's CC. I have had no issue with salts. I did have a very metallic build. First day was perfect, the next afternoon, tasted like a tin can. I traced it back to a sagging wick.

 

[JeremyR]

Well Jeremy, finally had a chance to try your Rayon, rebuilt the Aqua, vertically of course, at 0.21 ohms, wrapped the coils in Rayon, and have been vaping quite the storm.!!! Took a few minutes to break the wick in, but must say, this fiber wicks quite well. It's right up there with Ramie for sure. Will see how long she lasts. But yeah, thanks man, you are PIB in full dude.!!!

I've got about 5 builds to do, once I find where I put my 26 awg, hmm... any who, going to build both Rose2's with the same coil and wick one with Rayon and one with Ramie, and have a Wick Vape off, thinking exact same build and rba is the only way to judge the two.

I prejuiced my wick before wrapping my coil, find this way can get a more consistent wick coverage across the coils. Any who, a damn fine find. Slots is sending me a sample of that Cellucotton to try, it sounds like very similar to what the Rayon is. Been great swapping fibers back and forth, for the price of a stamp get to try new things. Love it.!!!!

Later Bud, thanks again.!!!

Where the frak is my wire.!!!!

Vape long and Prosper.!!!

Bro! You've finally arrived!

Guys welcome one of my best buds on ecf.

Only you could put the rayon to such a test. Quite an assortment of rbas you've got there.

We're at the tip of the spear once again. Changing the vaping world!

Glad you got a chance to play with it. What I sent you was the CC rayon and one strand of tencel. We've all pretty much found the rayon to be better. But the tencel is similar to the ramie. Cc is rayon just a little different than the original rayon I had wich was a little more pure and uniform.

As always looking forward to your results. You just have to watch for the rayon loosening up. It you don't use enough initially it will end up not enough.

Check out my video from Sunday morning to see how I wick it. But you've seen me work with it from the beginning so I'm pretty sure you have a good idea.

 

[dice57]

Dude, you give me to much credit, I just leech from everybody and use everything I've discovered to max out my vape gear. Fraking surprise myself sometimes. But thanks for the kind words!! Didn't take no picks of the build, but it was one of those frak me if every little thing that could piss ya off, well, it happened.

Was using 22 awg, was shooting for 0.275-0.3 ohm range, turned out to be 0.21 ohms, k, on the low end of the regulated mod I wanted to use, but heck, works for me. but the beach of it all, was kept stabbing myself with the end of a wire, fraking 22 is like on long badazz needle, thinking I'm wrapping a paper clip. then sprung a coil, and was having wire capture issues on one leg, fraking leed sprung loose after I trimmed off the end. Like I said, good thing I wasn't taking pics, would of thrown it or something. lmao.

Any who, at 0.21 reading on my atty meter, think on my mod it may of read it as below 0.2 and wouldn't fire it. No prob, throw it on the Stingray Copper Black. Frak me, day two with the Aqua and the vape is on almost the same level as my Magma drippers, just the Aqua's draw is a bit tighter, but my oh my, a damn fine vape.

Just now am getting to the bottom of one Rose tank, the other isn't far behind, so maybe build them tomorrow. Have been super busy lately, and just now having building time. Received mass vapemail in the last 3 day's, so have been going through all my 2 month old builds. Haven't touched either rose for almost two months. blew me away when I looked it up.

Here's my latest Family Portrait shots:

Oh, speaking of fiber movement, have to be careful with the ramie also, used to much on the Magma, and it's like grown a life of it's own. Looks like grass huts with smoke stacks, got to tuck the loose strands in. But vapes bad azz, so liking it.

 

[JeremyR]

Can you still edit the OP, Jeremy? It might be nice to have all these sources at the top of the thread (or some kind of summary of what we've learned so far, including your videos).

There's so much I'm still thinking of how to condense it. But I know its something that needs to be done. The first post is pretty long already. Maybe make the second post a kind of table of contents or summary. A mod would need to edit it.

That source is 2000 for 23 shipped. Could be easily split 10 ways.

 

[JeremyR]

I just burned through tank of 100% VG in the black tobeco kayfun. Not a single dry hit. Using Sally's CC. I have had no issue with salts. I did have a very metallic build. First day was perfect, the next afternoon, tasted like a tin can. I traced it back to a sagging wick.

Thanks for your report! Good to hear you did find it to be the coil. That was my first response to the metallic taste. But I erred on the side of worst case scenario, when talking of salts. It may be that; that was never the issue.

With the coil staying so clean it may be a coil taste people haven't noticed when it dry burn since there's little to no gunk on it.

With so many beginning to use it for the first time- user error is a BIG factor.

 

[Sploosh]

Check this out...

One tank of Classified Plush with cotton in the KFL+.

Same quantity of the same juice, same atty and coil, but with Rayon.

 

[Jdbaker82]

Just curious if anyone using this stuff cares or thinks about if rayon is safe or not to use as wicking material??? Don't really hear anyone talk about this

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[Sploosh]

Just curious if anyone using this stuff cares or thinks about if rayon is safe or not to use as wicking material??? Don't really hear anyone talk about this

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Nah, nobody has given any thought to that at all. Nobody in this thread bothered to read the thread and just went for it.

 

[VenusianSky]

I agree that it must be the coil. The taste is not as strong as a burning wick. I've had it happen regardless of the amount of juice dripped. It may happen once, but then after another puff, it is fine. A few puffs later, it is back. At this point I am convinced that it is due to not enough wick. I've been using more, and it has been going well so far. Last wick I put in enough rayon so that it is very snug, then I drip some juice into the center and slide it back and forth a few times which loosens it a little.

 

[bsoplinger]

Here's my latest Family Portrait shots:

A bit off topic but I'm curious... What mod is hidden under the TARDIS wrap?

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[stashbldr]

Check this out...

One tank of Classified Plush with cotton in the KFL+.

Same quantity of the same juice, same atty and coil, but with Rayon.

WOW, there ya go ... those pictures speak volumes! One of the many reasons I LOVE using rayon -)

 

[TheKiwi]

Just curious if anyone using this stuff cares or thinks about if rayon is safe or not to use as wicking material??? Don't really hear anyone talk about this

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Grin. If you haz the time, do look through the thread.

Jeremy over here has done what I would consider a bloody ridiculous amount of research into this. It's very comprehensive and a heck lot more factual and scientific than 99% of the stuff you'll encounter in vaping.

But long story short, I think given the information we have accessible to us (courtesy of Jeremy and many other contributors), the adopters do consider it safe for vaping.

That and the fact that the results have been stellar.


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[dice57]

It's that Made in China, 30 watt capable box mod. That by the most greatness of coincidences, the Vapor Skinz Hana Mod V3 dna30 wrap fits exactly. Took a gamble that it would fit, and like it was made for it. lol was so happy with the skinz, order the Mahogany Wood Vinyl Skinz for the red one. Love that I can time travel and do spatial hops while vaping. The Doctor's Targis is like my favorite mod to vape, even have a twisty whisty, timey whimey build in the Russian. Has an inverted V-Twin build with Tiger wire I believe. Something twisted for sure.

 

[stashbldr]

Just curious if anyone using this stuff cares or thinks about if rayon is safe or not to use as wicking material??? Don't really hear anyone talk about this.

Care? Yes. As I posted in this thread, 2 weeks ago, my doctor said he considers it to be the safest wick material that I've shown him in my 4 years of vaping .. and over those years I've shown him nearly every material there is. Does that mean it's 100% safe? I dunno .. all I know is my doctor told me to use it instead of anything else and that was good enough for me

 

[dice57]

as long as one doesn't run out of juice and start burning wick instead, heck, most any wick is pretty save, but great to hear about you medics approval for sure.

Frak, was sucking in over a pac of Camel Filters ever day for 37 years, was I concerned, yeah, but never quit till I found Vape!!

 

[VenusianSky]

I sat and read through about the entire thread before I considered even trying rayon. Actually, if you only read the beginning, you probably won't even know about CelluCotton. That stuff came much later in. Someone briefly mentioned it by name early on, but it didn't catch until maybe pages 50-60? Not only did I read the thread, I did my own research. Not saying that I have found it to be 100% safe, but in my opinion, it seems as safe if not safer than cotton. Neither are good to breathe in if burnt, though neither is pretty much anything that is burnt.

 

[bsoplinger]

The Doctor's Targis is like my favorite mod to vape, even have a twisty whisty, timey whimey build in the Russian. Has an inverted V-Twin build with Tiger wire I believe. Something twisted for sure.

I thought it might be that clone but wanted to ask. The wrap just looks so good on the box. I've seen plenty of mods that have wraps on them and even when its a picture or graphic I like I'm still very much aware that its a piece of printed material wrapped around the mod. Yours is like the 3rd one where the combination of design on the wrap and which model mod came together to produce a unity of look which didn't scream wrapped in a printed piece of plastic but actually looked like it was made that way.

Obligatory CCr bit: Finally emptied the Fogger V4 and rewicked with Sally's. I really like my mellow 1.5 ohm Kayfun builds and find my 0.8 ohm Fogger build a bit overwhelming which was why it took so long to empty. Now with rayon its even more so, but surprisingly that's better. The Fogger in comparison to the Kayfun is hotter, stronger tasting with tons of vapor, almost too much more for me as I've said. With rayon there's more flavor and vapor but that same extra moistness that I got with the Kayfun makes it less overwhelming to me. I also think that the better wicking action makes it less harsh. All I know is that I still find the Fogger almost too much for me but its a way more pleasant too much, enough I'm liking the Fogger V4 more than before.

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[HolmanGT]

I sat and read through about the entire thread before I considered even trying rayon. Actually, if you only read the beginning, you probably won't even know about CelluCotton. That stuff came much later in. Someone briefly mentioned it by name early on, but it didn't catch until maybe pages 50-60? Not only did I read the thread, I did my own research. Not saying that I have found it to be 100% safe, but in my opinion, it seems as safe if not safer than cotton. Neither are good to breathe in if burnt, though neither is pretty much anything that is burnt.

That has been pretty much my search findings also.

Most articles that I found just associated rayon with burnt wood. Not good to breath but then when it starts to burn you are not going to continue puffing on it.

I don't run more than about 12 watts so burning is not a common problem and when I get a dry hit it is a whole lot offensive than when I would occasion light the wrong end of a filtered cigarette - that's for damn sure.

The only safety item that I found worth repeating and that is burn a piece and make sure it burns fast, smells like burning paper and leave nothing but a fine ash. If any synthetic i.e. plastic, synthetic fibers have been mixed in you will notice it tends to shrink into a ball and leave a black balled up blob.