My wife worked for a couple that were from Taiwan. They brought me a box of loose green tea from there that was fantastic. Nothing added here.
Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
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My wife worked for a couple that were from Taiwan. They brought me a box of loose green tea from there that was fantastic. Nothing added here.
Hey faq , what ever works to give you great results.. I've said before there are different ways to get to the end result. I personally just never have rolled any wick. And prefer it as fluffy as possible for maximum wicking. After about and hour to a tank if its good after a tank you should be golden.
Not sure why you would have any issues. It look like its essentially set up like a kanger wick but slightly wider. You may be choking it in the coil, or it's coming loose in the coil, while big enough for the wick slots.
Most likely too much rayon. Don't worry about it being tight in the slots. Rayon has an amazing ability to attract and hold juice. Have it fully out the channels like I do my wicks and you should be good.
Welcome elantis, glad you like it so far it only gets better in time as you learn it.
I know even at 8 mg I'm putting my mod down regularly! This is a major benifit for me as before with 12mg I was vaping all day essentially non stop for over a year and a half.. Now I put it down because i am satisfied like never before
Major benifit and of course satisfaction.
Jeremy, have you out it in a dripper...good lord man! Here are the pics of my Norbert:
I fired it under a 6 magnifying glass and you can literally watch the juice being wicked up to the coil...lol
That looks really good warf!!!
You nailed the density it looks like if that's after a couple hours.
Wow you got it down in no time. And yes I'm using a dripper and its great. That bf atty looks awesome.
Something I've found using CC in my Kayfuns/Russians is not to have too much on the deck behind the juice channels. I was kind of spreading it out so it covered the back wall but found having it so the CC is just in the middle in line with the juice channels works much, much better for me, particularly with high VG juices.
Yeah it's amazing what it does in kangers. My wife's has been going strong for a long time. No leaks what so ever with just the right amount through a 1/16 coil at 1.8 on an ego. Best ever and she vapes a lot more now. And smokes less(yes I know). Last night she ran it completely dry. I mean done dry not a drip in the tank. Looked brand new in there. The ends of the wick were dry and when she stopped there was just enough at the coil that it was fine and just reloaded it.
This is friggen amazing, not a leak or a problem one until every last drop was gone. Ends of the wick were dry and the rayon is still good. Coil still clean.
I suggest perfect size for coil trim tails so they just touch the deck when curved down the the edge of the well, not kinked. Then put chamber on and fan the tails out to cover each side while touching the deck.
Some one send me an old genny to play with, mine is a piece!
but on the real, it vaped great, just couldn't chain vape the agi without getting a dry hit. and then something really gross happened as i tried to get it to wick faster which I will not mention so you can keep your breakfast/coffee/unsweetened green tea down
needless to say I need to clean it out and rebuild/rewick with more cc.
treehead, I like the idea of drilling it out, but unfortunately for me, I have no access to a drill. Going to go to the local B&M my buddy runs and check out some of their kraken clones. that seems like a good genny that most are happy with stock. i would love to be able to fine tune my atomizers to my liking but even when I "drilled" out the agi air holes to 1/8", I did it by hand. and not a hand crank drill, i mean a drill bit, in my hand, and me twisting an atty around for 45 minutes. not to mention how much it made my hand raw!
as for the neg leg and the direction of the screw, I had that right as well, that leg just would not tighten up on the allen key. at least its been trashed since then good reason to start over.
but on the real, it vaped great, just couldn't chain vape the agi without getting a dry hit. and then something really gross happened as i tried to get it to wick faster which I will not mention so you can keep your breakfast/coffee/unsweetened green tea down
needless to say I need to clean it out and rebuild/rewick with more cc. treehead, I like the idea of drilling it out, but unfortunately for me, I have no access to a drill. Going to go to the local B&M my buddy runs and check out some of their kraken clones. that seems like a good genny that most are happy with stock. i would love to be able to fine tune my atomizers to my liking but even when I "drilled" out the agi air holes to 1/8", I did it by hand. and not a hand crank drill, i mean a drill bit, in my hand, and me twisting an atty around for 45 minutes. not to mention how much it made my hand raw!
as for the neg leg and the direction of the screw, I had that right as well, that leg just would not tighten up on the allen key. at least its been trashed since then
good reason to start over.
It's really not the fault of the rayon. It's the juice. Your tasting the real sweetness in those juices. A sweetness that was muted before. Sweet is a primary taste. Yes the juices were made for muting wicks. Image a juice being made made for dry hitting silica being put on rayon. It's gonna be completely different. Yes.
All the compensation for muting is not needed is not needed now. So certain notes are a lot stronger. Sweetness comes out a lot more.
Alright guys I'm gonna drop the bomb on you... This is 100% real.
1.3 ohm parallel 32, on stacked zmax at ~ 5.5v - 100% VG , no water!, 8mg, 2-3% hangsen tobacco flavors- mostly Arabic, Des ship, & gold&silver.
This is the wick & coil last Saturday after an hour vape.
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This is the coil today after about 30-40ml 100vg , I week later.
This is on the real, still performing flawlessly. No noticeable gunk what so ever on 100vg. Even with numerous dryish hit due to trying to get the flashevapor tank to wick without mesh. PITA
1.3 ohm parallel 32, on stacked zmax at ~ 5.5v - 100% VG , no water!, 8mg, 2-3% hangsen tobacco flavors- mostly Arabic, Des ship, & gold&silver.
This is the wick & coil last Saturday after an hour vape.
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Get ready -
This is the coil today after about 30-40ml 100vg , I week later.
This is on the real, still performing flawlessly. No noticeable gunk what so ever on 100vg. Even with numerous dryish hit due to trying to get the flashevapor tank to wick without mesh. PITA
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Hey Jeremy,
I listen to the pod cast you linked yesterday on the discussion of rayon, well.... it was playing while I was working so I half listen. But my ears perked up when they talked about just this, rayon is bringing through flavors no one has tasted before. It was an interesting point that juice suppliers haven't even tasted the true flavors they have been making and what's going to happen from here forward once rayon becomes dominant, will mixes change? Will there be new versions of our favorite juices be made for rayon?
Ahh, I'll have to come back to this, I wanted to say more but the grand kids are asking for lunch.
Most of us advanced vapors are making our own juice now so We can adjust ourselves as we see fit. And yes it's a complete transformation. It will take some time before juice maker realize it. But also adds more difficulty because most makers make for the general vaping population. Advanced vapors will be rayon and some makers will start to make new recipies but it all takes time because its quite a process but the best ones can make the adjustments and come out with a pure line or rayon line.
For the ones that come off too strong in the highs or sweets all you can do at this time is cut it 25% or more with vg. But some blends may just never taste right in the unburnt; drinking form.
Rayon is best if you are an experienced at making your own that way you can adjust your self.
I know this takes it to a whole new level that was completely unknown before. It's really incredible. I would venture to say one of the biggest changes in vaping in a long long time.
For the ones that come off too strong in the highs or sweets all you can do at this time is cut it 25% or more with vg. But some blends may just never taste right in the unburnt; drinking form.
Rayon is best if you are an experienced at making your own that way you can adjust your self.
I know this takes it to a whole new level that was completely unknown before. It's really incredible. I would venture to say one of the biggest changes in vaping in a long long time.
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OK, got a few minuets while the pasta is cooking. To the point of flavor with rayon, I was absolutely hooked on Uncle Junk's Jon Wayne, a kind of sweet tobacco but with a few undertones I can't put my finger on, it's just great. But with rayon, yuk! I tried to get past it but it just doesn't taste good with rayon but then again it was developed being taste tested on rayon either. I hope we will see mixers going back to the mix room and revamp our favs for rayon, time will tell.
Oh, and thanks for posting about your wife's Kanger's, I feel vindicated even though I'm one of the odd men out still using clearomizers.
Oh, and thanks for posting about your wife's Kanger's, I feel vindicated even though I'm one of the odd men out still using clearomizers.
So who else is trying rayon in Genny atty's? And how are you doing it and how's it working for you. I just got this new atty and thought I'd try rayon. I'm having a bit of a time getting it to wick well enough to replenish the juice under the coil. Might be releated to the small with hole - it's only 1/16th inch in diameter.
I wrapped a 1.2Ω coil on a 1/16 drill bit. I 1st tried 1 length of wick, from the tank through the coil, with the ~right amount of rayon for the coil size. When I fired the PV the wick under the coil dried right out and the coil began to glow (not good). It did this when holding the PV horizontal and even a bit inverted to get the juice running 'downhill'.
The next try I threaded less than 1/2 the amount of rayon from the tank through the coil, leaving it really loose in the wick hole. Then I carefully threaded some more rayon just through the coil - just enough to fill the coil. This was better and the rayon through the wick hole didn't seem to be a choke point. Seems the juice needs room/space on the outside of the rayon to make it through the hole. This was better but still not working well.
So - I added a 'diaper' of rayon below the coil around the exposed wick coming out of the deck. My thought was to make a reservoir to hold juice to better feed the wicking under the coil. This helped too as I can get about a 5 second 'burn' before the wick drys out and the coil begins to glow. But it still needs the old Genny tilt to keep everything juiced up.
I wrapped a 1.2Ω coil on a 1/16 drill bit. I 1st tried 1 length of wick, from the tank through the coil, with the ~right amount of rayon for the coil size. When I fired the PV the wick under the coil dried right out and the coil began to glow (not good). It did this when holding the PV horizontal and even a bit inverted to get the juice running 'downhill'.
The next try I threaded less than 1/2 the amount of rayon from the tank through the coil, leaving it really loose in the wick hole. Then I carefully threaded some more rayon just through the coil - just enough to fill the coil. This was better and the rayon through the wick hole didn't seem to be a choke point. Seems the juice needs room/space on the outside of the rayon to make it through the hole. This was better but still not working well.
So - I added a 'diaper' of rayon below the coil around the exposed wick coming out of the deck. My thought was to make a reservoir to hold juice to better feed the wicking under the coil. This helped too as I can get about a 5 second 'burn' before the wick drys out and the coil begins to glow. But it still needs the old Genny tilt to keep everything juiced up.
Yesterday I posted about a butter rum that didn't taste like it use to. I lowered the watts until it did. Really good now, better than before.
Point being, play around with your power settings, mixes, coil sizes. Some need higher, some need lower.
Mike E3 I don't have to horizontal my gennie but I do tilt the device to keep the liquid level near the wick hole. Sometimes I do the opposite for a short while to get the wick to dry out a little and it flows better.
Your pic shows too much bulge between the coil and deck. EDIT is that the diaper?
Twist tight about an inch of rayon to feed into the tank through the coil. Use a pin or paper clip or something to feed the untwisted wick down into the coil enough to get into the tank. Trim the top like your picture.
For a 5/64 2mm coil I use a piece as wide as a Sharpie pen. 1/16 a pencil wide.
Point being, play around with your power settings, mixes, coil sizes. Some need higher, some need lower.
Mike E3 I don't have to horizontal my gennie but I do tilt the device to keep the liquid level near the wick hole. Sometimes I do the opposite for a short while to get the wick to dry out a little and it flows better.
Your pic shows too much bulge between the coil and deck. EDIT is that the diaper?
Twist tight about an inch of rayon to feed into the tank through the coil. Use a pin or paper clip or something to feed the untwisted wick down into the coil enough to get into the tank. Trim the top like your picture.
For a 5/64 2mm coil I use a piece as wide as a Sharpie pen. 1/16 a pencil wide.
I will be trying it in genys as mesh is my preferred wick material so most my attys reflect that. Not going to be seeing me take a drill to my HellFires no matter how good Rayon is though lol
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So who else is trying rayon in Genny atty's? And how are you doing it and how's it working for you. I just got this new atty and thought I'd try rayon. I'm having a bit of a time getting it to wick well enough to replenish the juice under the coil. Might be releated to the small with hole - it's only 1/16th inch in diameter.
I wrapped a 1.2Ω coil on a 1/16 drill bit. I 1st tried 1 length of wick, from the tank through the coil, with the ~right amount of rayon for the coil size. When I fired the PV the wick under the coil dried right out and the coil began to glow (not good). It did this when holding the PV horizontal and even a bit inverted to get the juice running 'downhill'.
The next try I threaded less than 1/2 the amount of rayon from the tank through the coil, leaving it really loose in the wick hole. Then I carefully threaded some more rayon just through the coil - just enough to fill the coil. This was better and the rayon through the wick hole didn't seem to be a choke point. Seems the juice needs room/space on the outside of the rayon to make it through the hole. This was better but still not working well.
So - I added a 'diaper' of rayon below the coil around the exposed wick coming out of the deck. My thought was to make a reservoir to hold juice to better feed the wicking under the coil. This helped too as I can get about a 5 second 'burn' before the wick drys out and the coil begins to glow. But it still needs the old Genny tilt to keep everything juiced up.
With all due respect, it looks like just too much wick overall. I use just enough wick in the coil to hold it in place then my wicks going into my tanks barely touch the walls of the holes going into the tanks...My wicks remain wet and atomizing...I have tried the wicks to the bottom, middle and near the top of the tank. It works best halfway and yes, I tilt when I have to...
When I went to Sallys the young lady took me to their little "cotton section." No CC boxes. The CC boxes were not in this section but around the corner on another upper shelf in another section of the store so don't fall for that one. I drove 30 mins through Austin traffic and there was no way I was walking out of there without the Golden Fleece...lol
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