Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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HolmanGT

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And it lasts a long time. Even if we tossed it after every tank, we couldn't use 500 feet.

And yet I pick up the scraps and mash them into pieces and find something to wick them with...

Your sense of humor tickles me albeit I find your "Avatar" intimidating. :lol:

PS - I save the scraps too.
 

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Baddest bottom feeder killing it with rayon, @ 0.33ohm
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Thanks bro, yeah, I made/love it! Holds a 0.30ohm or lower build all day no problem and you can run it over with a truck.

Here's a write-up of the build:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=523555
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ordered three 40ft boxes of the cellucotton from Texas Beauty Supplies. total shipped $15.82. i'll keep one and sell the other two. had a question on wire. this has probably already come up but, anyone have experience with HotWires by Chadster and Rayon Fiber? been watching some videos on YouTube and one vid mentioned the HotWire doesn't play well with cotton. any input is greatly appreciated.
 

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Well I certainly hope that this DIY conversation didn't upset Jeremy we are DIYing to conform to the needs of Rayon and actually I think Jeremy mentioned DIY first didn't he?

No guys, it's fine, and yes I did. Some diy adjustments may be necessary. And some pg,vg &nic would be a good thing to have on hand... I've just been away.... I wasn't going to post that, but I did... I just don't like mfs, due to dealings with them on my first, and last, order with them.
 

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Tbev, just ran across the thread you started on vape faction Rayon Beats Cotton.. Really. Only read a page or two.. I have more information from the chemical scientists book on rayon if you need it.

It's the most recent scientific publication on rayon... Yes rayon is as safe or safer than cotton.
 
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Oh me too! I know I'm late by here it is.
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This attempt went much better than the agi and the wicking is better for the holes in the deck of the kraken which seem huge compared to the agi. Oh yeah, remember I said something nasty happened to the agi? I went to my buddy's store and he sold me that kraken clone for 15 bucks. Sweet! Really enjoying it and it fits flush on the Cronus!
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Believe it or not can't find any Cellucotton rayon here in Australia and price of shipping was not an option, I did manage to find 50/50 cotton/rayon balls and placed an order from Aust.
Now I have just found an Australian site for Tencel and have placed an order, has anyone on here used the 50/50 with any success I am thinking it should work ok as opposed to plain cotton. I guess if not could use it in first aid kit.
 

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Oh me too! I know I'm late by here it is.
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This attempt went much better than the agi and the wicking is better for the holes in the deck of the kraken which seem huge compared to the agi.

I have a theory about the tufts on top of the coils. At first I left them long like people do with horizontal coils. But because we only have liquid feed from the bottom, I think longer tufts actually draw liquid away from the coil. I could be all wrong too. We need a micro camera inside the cap to see what is going on, lol.
 

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Oh me too! I know I'm late by here it is.
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This attempt went much better than the agi and the wicking is better for the holes in the deck of the kraken which seem huge compared to the agi. Oh yeah, remember I said something nasty happened to the agi? I went to my buddy's store and he sold me that kraken clone for 15 bucks. Sweet! Really enjoying it and it fits flush on the Cronus!

I have a theory about the tufts on top of the coils. At first I left them long like people do with horizontal coils. But because we only have liquid feed from the bottom, I think longer tufts actually draw liquid away from the coil. I could be all wrong too. We need a micro camera inside the cap to see what is going on, lol.

Fluid flows toward heat, like melted wax flows up a wick to feed a flame. I guess it would stand to reason the top tuffs are feeding the fluid they have stored to the top side of the coil as well as the fluid being drawn from the tank so the coil is being feed from both sides. Then when the coil cools the tuffs fill back up with fluid, sound right?

In that pod cast Jeremy posted a fellow said he was using one long rayon wick to feed through a dual coil dripper, each coil has one tail on the deck. He has it coming up and over the bridge from one coil to the other, said he would drip right onto the "hump", I guess for a lack of a better word. Wonder how one long wick would work in something like that Kraken?
 

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Another rayon convert here. Just picked up some cellucotton from Sally's. Rewicked my RM2 and an Origen V2 clone. Having just caped them for 30 minutes, I have a few reflections and specifications. As most others have noted, there is no taste to the wick (I did not boil the CC). The vapor is clean and smooth. The wicking action is phenomenal, especially on the origen. I'm dripping about 3/4 the amount I do with cotton. Btw, on the origen I have dual 24g vertical coils, 6/7 wrap, 2.5mm ID. Coming out to .28 ohm. On the RM2 I have the same setup but with a single coil. Comes out to .47ohm.

Now, the one thing I noticed that I have not see mentioned is that on my RM2 build, I found that putting a much thicker wick through the coil was need to avoid dry hits, than one would do with cotton. Yes, I said it, I was getting dry hits with the CC. The center of the coil was beginning to glow. And this was after only the second hit. My solution was to put a piece of CC through the coil that would have definitely clogged the wicking action if it were cotton. In other words, what would have been to big to wick we'll with cotton turned out to be perfect size for a CC WICK.

Just sharing my experience. Thanks again to all who helped bring CC to our attention!


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Fluid flows toward heat, like melted wax flows up a wick to feed a flame. I guess it would stand to reason the top tuffs are feeding the fluid they have stored to the top side of the coil as well as the fluid being drawn from the tank so the coil is being feed from both sides. Then when the coil cools the tuffs fill back up with fluid, sound right?

In that pod cast Jeremy posted a fellow said he was using one long rayon wick to feed through a dual coil dripper, each coil has one tail on the deck. He has it coming up and over the bridge from one coil to the other, said he would drip right onto the "hump", I guess for a lack of a better word. Wonder how one long wick would work in something like that Kraken?

Oh man that sounds awesome. I usually notice the tufts on top just go dry quicker and I either have to tilt it over for a second or just let it sit for a bit to work it's way back up the rayon. I am thinking about that single wick method though and feel like trying to wick it would be frustrating for me. I'm just not that great at the vertical coils yet, and wicking them seems to be the hardest part IMO. I'm going to have to practice some more and test it out when I get the chance.


Going to use some of the mesh and rayon together first though! That looked really nice!
 

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Another rayon convert here. Just picked up some cellucotton from Sally's. Rewicked my RM2 and an Origen V2 clone. Having just caped them for 30 minutes, I have a few reflections and specifications. As most others have noted, there is no taste to the wick (I did not boil the CC). The vapor is clean and smooth. The wicking action is phenomenal, especially on the origen. I'm dripping about 3/4 the amount I do with cotton. Btw, on the origen I have dual 24g vertical coils, 6/7 wrap, 2.5mm ID. Coming out to .28 ohm. On the RM2 I have the same setup but with a single coil. Comes out to .47ohm.

Now, the one thing I noticed that I have not see mentioned is that on my RM2 build, I found that putting a much thicker wick through the coil was need to avoid dry hits, than one would do with cotton. Yes, I said it, I was getting dry hits with the CC. The center of the coil was beginning to glow. And this was after only the second hit. My solution was to put a piece of CC through the coil that would have definitely clogged the wicking action if it were cotton. In other words, what would have been to big to wick we'll with cotton turned out to be perfect size for a CC WICK.

Just sharing my experience. Thanks again to all who helped bring CC to our attention!


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That's normal: it takes more rayon than cotton
 

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Glad you like it redjah,
Yeah you lost contact with the coil when the wick broke in. It happens when you don't use enough. It's been said many times to use more, the original rec was 2 times more to start with. But then some were using too much. It all depends on how you made your cotton wick, because different people used varying amounts.
 

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Believe it or not can't find any Cellucotton rayon here in Australia and price of shipping was not an option, I did manage to find 50/50 cotton/rayon balls and placed an order from Aust.
Now I have just found an Australian site for Tencel and have placed an order, has anyone on here used the 50/50 with any success I am thinking it should work ok as opposed to plain cotton. I guess if not could use it in first aid kit.

IMO it would depend on the cotton. I have tried just standard cotton balls before (and Q-tip heads) and it tasted like crap. Then I boiled them 3x with the same taste just muted a little bit. Switched to organic cotton and I can use that right out of the bag. I can barely taste the cotton on some really light flavors that I have chain vaped (I think I am using too much and it is getting dry). I am using much less cotton now and am getting 0 cotton taste. For fun I switched to a silica wicked head and it tasted like crap lol. I am getting better with my wicks and for me less is better for cotton.

I have some rayon in the mail so I can't wait to give this a try.

Best of luck!
 
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