Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[Raguvian]

Hey raguvian..

The build looks good. Density in the coil, from what I can tell, looks good so far too. Give it 3-4ml to be sure its settled then you won't have to worry about wick reduction.

So the popping seems like a lot of juice on your coil just blowing up... it that what it seems like to you?

I'm a little stumped by this because until recently no one has ever said anything about a popping problem. Admittedly I find popping to be good but not if its burning your mouth.

See how this turns out as we go, but if you run a short drip tip you may have to actually try to slow down wicking or adjust something with the rayon wick to alleviate that.

The bad taste on the first wick job was the coil drying, overheating, and burning your juice.

Oh I space my coils purposely, works better than touching coils.

I've been vaping on it a bit now. No more backfiring and only some occasional popping. Does rayon need to "break in"?

I've noticed I can drip more into the RDA before it gets full. I guess it's because the rayon wicks faster than the cotton? Either way, I'm loving it and I'll be sticking with rayon. I'm going to give some of my rayon to my vaping buddy and if he likes it, we'll be getting the giant 500 foot box and splitting that (although, trying to split 500 feet of rayon evenly is going to be interesting...).

 

[JeremyR]

@ juggalo

Yeah I just got over this problem with the 100vg juice. Man I fought it for a while but you have to thin the vg in these temperatures I'm over 10% water now. Molasses just doesn't flow. Theres just no way around it. I wish I would have done sooner cause its vaping excellent still very high vg 85%+.

Its a lot easier to add thinner and works much better anyway.

 

[JimmyDB]

I've been vaping on it a bit now. No more backfiring and only some occasional popping. Does rayon need to "break in"?

I've noticed I can drip more into the RDA before it gets full. I guess it's because the rayon wicks faster than the cotton? Either way, I'm loving it and I'll be sticking with rayon. I'm going to give some of my rayon to my vaping buddy and if he likes it, we'll be getting the giant 500 foot box and splitting that (although, trying to split 500 feet of rayon evenly is going to be interesting...).

Yes, it's generally accepted in the textile industry that Rayon has higher absorption and a faster transport rate than cotton. As always, depends on the exact materials and your wicking style (twisted or not/etc).

I would suggest weighing the 500ft bag and then going by weight to share the Rayon... unless you are just fond of counting and handling it

 

[JeremyR]

@ raguvian

Great man!

Popping isn't a bad thing - just means its working really good.. Like I said the wick reduces over the first 3-4ml. Call it a break in if you want but I don't because that implies a flavor break in like cotton which isn't the case.

Usually if something improves over the first day you have a little too much in the coil... then it reduces to be OK.

Vape it on man.... if it was too tight the coil will just gunk prematurely...if you got it right it will last a long long time. I'm at 25 days at 6v no gunking. Still going, pure flavor.

Splitting a box... Its so cheap it won't be a big deal man.. Its way more than enough to last you both a lifetime.. Seriously. Also - Wash your hands very well before handling it! It will absorb whatever is on your hands.

 

[Raguvian]

Popping isn't a bad think just means its working really good.. Like I said the wick reduces over the first 3-4ml. Call it a break in if you want but I don't because that implies a flavor break in like cotton which isn't the case.

Usually if something improves over the first day you have a little too much in the coil... then it reduces to be OK.

Vape it on man.... if it was too tight the coil will just gunk prematurely...if you got it right it will last a long long time. I'm at 25 days at 6v no gunking. Still going, pure flavor.

Do you vape the same flavor? Is there any way to "clean out" flavors so I can use the same wick again? I like how it's hitting now and would rather not mess with it for the time being.

 

[PaulBHC]

If it is a dripper, just vape some unflavored vg to clean it out before the next flavor. Rayon doesn't hold the flavor.

 

[JeremyR]

Rayon doesn't hold the flavor, only the coil will.. Its one of the benefits just vape it down add new flavor. Flavor transition is fast. I switch between 5 different flavors. If you need just drip some unflavores and it will be like new.

If you look at the pic I posted yesterday you'll see the wick is clean when I redripped a different flavor.

 

[JeremyR]

If its wicked right and the tails are proper when its time to drip your well will be dry. The better the wick the dryer You be able to take it.. The wick will literally be white and drying by the time you notice.

A dry wick when you notice you need to drip mean s youve got things right.

When you get there you will be *Amazed at how dry you can vape it..

"Good to the last drop" - notorious tbev

 

[KGB7]

If its wicked right and the tails are proper when its time to drip your well will be dry. The better the wick the dryer You be able to take it.. The wick will literally be white and drying by the time you notice.

A dry wick when you notice you need to drip mean s youve got things right.

When you get there you will be *Amazed at how dry you can vape it..

"Good to the last drop" - notorious tbev

So true. I got my Navy Nest wick bone dry and was still getting vapor and flavor.

 

[Raguvian]

I will try vaping it down more, then. I'm too used to cotton and scared of how fast that will give you a dry/burnt hit so I always keep it well saturated. If any part of the wick looks dry I resaturate. I will try letting the rayon get dry first and then try doing a flavor change.

 

[JeremyR]

Once you detect the flavor vapor change check it out.. It wont be completely dry but shockingly dry

Rayon gives a fair warning before a dry hit. And it recovers from it. Rayon will not burn. If it was a light dry hit it will clear on its own..

Any bad taste after an accidental excessive dry hit is the *coil* not the rayon. You can simply wipe the burnt juice off the coil and its good to go

Its so much better than cotton you don't even know

 

[trouble1000]

I've been running a spaced wick in my RM2/Reo combo to see if it makes any difference over my regular micro coils. Usually I pop a 2mm micro coil in there, around the 1-1.2 ohm mark, very short tailed rayon wick, thinned out as necessary and vape away.

I only use a very dark, sweet juice in this set up. A mixture of MBV coffee and sweet cream - it's my morning vape. I've noticed for the first 6ml on the usual micro, I get plenty of popping, the second 6ml the popping decreases and the vape does drop off a little, by the third 6ml there's hardly any popping and the vape has dropped off noticeably. By now it's time to recoil. Loads of caramelised juice on the coil, but the rayon wick, after a quick rinse, looks like new.

Using a spaced coil, same diameter, same ohms. I'm at the 18ml mark already and this one's still going strong. I reckon, I'll be able to double the lifespan of this particular coil the way it's going

 

[JeremyR]

Microcoils/ Touching coils are dead.... They suck.. You must have missed the big discussion we had..

 

[tchavei]

The difference between dogs and cats:
If you lay down and die, a dog will lay down and die with you. A cat will eat you to stay alive.

This just means cats are smarter and more practical than dogs

Haven't had a cat for over 20 years now but I miss their arrogance. My dogs are so subservient it gets boring lol.



Regards
Tony

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"Je suis Charlie" - R. I. P.

 

[HolmanGT]

This just means cats are smarter and more practical than dogs

Haven't had a cat for over 20 years now but I miss their arrogance. My dogs are so subservient it gets boring lol.



Regards
Tony

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"Je suis Charlie" - R. I. P.

tchavei,

Thanks for defending my cats "arrogance". Last night was cold and my cat sits in a tall cat tree by the sliding glass patio doors. It was colder than a witch's mammary gland. So I closed the blinds to insulate her against the cold. Well she had a fit mumbled something about she didn't ask for any help and then commenced to swat at the blinds until some of them got hung up and left an open area so she could see out again and then spent the next five minutes glaring at me from on high.

And I swear I am not making up this story!!!

 

[KGB7]

tchavei,

Thanks for defending my cats "arrogance". Last night was cold and my cat sits in a tall cat tree by the sliding glass patio doors. It was colder than a witch's mammary gland. So I closed the blinds to insulate her against the cold. Well she had a fit mumbled something about she didn't ask for any help and then commenced to swat at the blinds until some of them got hung up and left an open area so she could see out again and then spent the next five minutes glaring at me from on high.

And I swear I am not making up this story!!!

Got a spray bottle for $1.28 at Target and it has a spray range of 10 feet. Our cats know better who to mess with.

 

[HolmanGT]

Got a spray bottle for $1.28 at Target and it has a spray range of 10 feet. Our cats know better who to mess with.

KGB,

I have heard of those things and their effectiveness. The only reason I haven't picked one up yet is I am afraid of feline retaliation.

 

[JeremyR]

Here's my latest rewick with delascos rayon balls. Coil is wrapped on blue atty screwdriver ~ 5/64 , 28g 1.4 ohms. 6v on a stacked zmax v3. Th started out nice and strong, the way I like.

Just primed




Next day - check out the droplets of juice traveling on the stray fiber




Day 2 after a run till starting to taste dry. You can see dry fibers. Also the coil is dry. Barely noticed a dry hit.



And resoaked seconds later

Repost #7041
just before I came out against touching coils.

 

[KGB7]

KGB,

I have heard of those things and their effectiveness. The only reason I haven't picked one up yet is I am afraid of feline retaliation.

Ours know not to mess with the hand that feeds it, or theyll be catching their own dinner.

 

[cindycated]

See how this turns out as we go, but if you run a short drip tip you may have to actually try to slow down wicking or adjust something with the rayon wick to alleviate that.

That's what I've been trying to do with my Origen Genesis (single-coil setup). It wicks so well that I think it floods the coil. I've been splitting the tail in half, cutting one half to a nub and doing your tree root thing with the other half. I've been trying longer and longer nubs to try to get it just right. Maybe I'll try it without the tree roots next time...