Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[JeremyR]

I'll repost this from reoville.. If you missed the video I posted yesterday here it is.

There is no need to boil this!! if you do try to leave the coil undisturbed. I recommend drying flat on paper towels after you drain it out.

Here's a video I made, I over exaggerated some of the steps for show. This was for a flashi. And actually the amount I used was not enough.

You'll see how twist down to make it smaller to slide trough the coil. Exaggerated the coil slide to show if you pull on it close to the coil it shrinks down. Also note importantly that you don't want the dense pieces in the middle that's why I was pulling off to the denser parts.. Remember you have 500! Feet so only use an even choice part.

It was the first video I've made and the next one will be better and a more accurate density. You see when I lined it up I went about twice the width of the coil well you need 2.5-3 times to start with.



Read video description for the mistake I made

RAYON wicking - YouTube

 

[sedge]

Great video Jeremy. I use very sharp embroidery scissors and get quick consistent results.

 

[cindycated]

Every time I think I'm about to catch up on this thread, 30 more pages pop up. I give up!

I'm one of the new converts. 'Cept now I think I'm gonna have to switch to air freshener type flavors, cuz I just filled the whole house with Strawberry Cheesecake. I don't think I've ever scented the air as much as this with my vaping before - nope, def can't stealth-vape with this stuff. And all this from a piddly little single-coil Evod. Loving it though - thanks for the tip.

 

[cindycated]

Read video description for the mistake I made

RAYON wicking - YouTube

Whew! That's about how I've been doing it, 'cept my wicks don't slide quite as easily - just a wee bit tighter. My coils are about 1/16" diam (same as the width of the slit on Evod bases) and I've been getting 3 wicks out of one length of "stuff." That's why I've been rebuilding in threes. I was going through two heads a day with yarn, but four days in on my first two with this, and they're still good.

 

[stashbldr]

My coils are about 1/16" diam (same as the width of the slit on Evod bases) and I've been getting 3 wicks out of one length of "stuff." That's why I've been rebuilding in threes.

Until recently I had made my coils 1/16" diameter too, and like you also got 3 wicks out of one length of the "stuff". A few days ago I started experimenting with a little larger coil .. 5/64" .. and when I use that size coil I get 2 wicks plus a little left over out of one length of the "stuff" ;-)

 

[trouble1000]

One other thing I've noticed, there's no air bubbles in my Kayfuns anymore. With cotton, after every draw, I'd look to see the air bubbles pop up to the top of the tank, with CC there's nothing - I still keep looking though This shows how efficient it is at wicking and staying constantly wet. The way I see it, the air bubbles with cotton, show that there's an interruption in the wicking process. I'm getting to love this stuff more each day, think I'll try some in my Ithaka next time

 

[Aal_]

One other thing I've noticed, there's no air bubbles in my Kayfuns anymore. With cotton, after every draw, I'd look to see the air bubbles pop up to the top of the tank, with CC there's nothing - I still keep looking though This shows how efficient it is at wicking and staying constantly wet. The way I see it, the air bubbles with cotton, show that there's an interruption in the wicking process. I'm getting to love this stuff more each day, think I'll try some in my Ithaka next time

the absence of air bubble shows that's you are not getting any liquid inside the chimney through suction but all through wicking. if you don't get any dry hits this is unbelievable and a breakthrough!!

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[tw33k]

One other thing I've noticed, there's no air bubbles in my Kayfuns anymore. With cotton, after every draw, I'd look to see the air bubbles pop up to the top of the tank, with CC there's nothing - I still keep looking though This shows how efficient it is at wicking and staying constantly wet. The way I see it, the air bubbles with cotton, show that there's an interruption in the wicking process. I'm getting to love this stuff more each day, think I'll try some in my Ithaka next time

I just re-wicked my second full-sized Russian with CC and noticed the same. With this same juice and cotton, I was getting bubbles all the time. Now with CC, no bubbles but no dry/scratchy hits either. I'm very impressed.

 

[trouble1000]

the absence of air bubble shows that's you are not getting any liquid inside the chimney through suction but all through wicking. if you don't get any dry hits this is unbelievable and a breakthrough!!

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It's only day 2 for me and Rayon, but so far so good. Gone through about half a tank in both Rayon filled Kayfuns so far (but I do have at least 6 set ups in rotation at home). If it's still this good in a week, I'll be ditching the cotton for good. Not a single dry hit, even with multiple draws - cotton always seemed to start drying up a little after multiple draws

I just re-wicked my second full-sized Russian with CC and noticed the same. With this same juice and cotton, I was getting bubbles all the time. Now with CC, no bubbles but no dry/scratchy hits either. I'm very impressed.

It really is surprising me how good it is. I keep on waiting for the dreaded dry hit, but so far nothing. Think I'm turning into a CC fanboi

 

[BNEAT]

There MUST be air bubbles! Otherwise, how does the air get in the tank as the juice level goes down?

 

[Sandylp]

So to reiterate: the good stuff is Graham CelluCotton 44130 (100% Rayon Fibers) which might be available at Sally Beauty Supply and places on the web like this place which has it for under $4:
Graham CelluCotton Beauty Coil - 40 ft - $3.18 - at Texas Beauty Supplies

Edit: That link has a minimum order of $7

Thanks for the link. Amazon charges much more when you add on shipping. You can order three boxes at the same price (plus Priority Mail) from Texas Beauty for the one box from Amazon.

 

[tw33k]

There MUST be air bubbles! Otherwise, how does the air get in the tank as the juice level goes down?

as the juice level goes down there probably would be but with cotton I could see bubbles after nearly every hit, not the case with CC.

update: there we go. I'm down to about half a tank and just saw a few tiny bubbles.

 

[BNEAT]

Yeah, this stuff wicks great and taste great, but I still think the best thing about it is that it stays clean longer than anything else I've ever used! I'm getting 3 times the wick life with Boba's vs cotton...3 times!!

 

[VenusianSky]

Just a suggestion for the thread.

JeremyR, maybe edit your first post (page 1) with the most current information/summary to this thread so that people don't need to dig through to find the prevalent information. Maybe put your video there as well. Just an idea.

 

[folkphys]

Yep. this stuff is for real.

Took a lunch. Went to Sally's. Got the small box - 500' . Yanked the RxW out of my mediocre but reliable and considerably modified Tobeco KFL that I reserve for probationary juices. A juice halfway house, if you will. Ripped off a chunk of the CCr, cut it in half, twisted one end. Slid the end through my month-old 0.85 ohm twisted 30g (~3mm ID) and... though it pops like the dickens and seems to take a flavorwise brown-out every couple of toots (like dry-ish cotton), but so far: when it's on, it is oooooonnn.

The rayon gives me exhales, or 'TootOuts', akin to my weak-sauced but oh-so-airy Fogger. And this is on a near 1 Ohm tight-breather. This is shockingly close to 0.58 Ohm dual RxW Aqua territory in terms of balancing precise flavor with copious vapor. I simply shudder to think of what may be possible inside an atty that I actually like to use.

 

[folkphys]

And then I stumbled upon a nice ancillary use for the ridiculous excess of this stuff: Sopping up all the test-firing spatter that has covered my desk and keyboard.

 

[kojul]

This stuff is awesome, I got the 500' foot box at Sally's the other day. Even on a dry hit, it doesn't taste anywhere as near as bad on cotton.

I've run it on .17, .24 and .4 ohm builds, and the rayon has never failed at keeping up with wicking. The flavor is noticeably cleaner on all the juices that I've tried on both cotton and rayon.

I've also been bagging up small amounts and taking it to all my local shops and having them try it out. I haven't had a bad review yet.

I'm completely sold now, if I wasn't after reading the first 100 pages of this thread. Can't wait to try it in my Fogger V4.3 when it gets here.

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[JeremyR]

There MUST be air bubbles! Otherwise, how does the air get in the tank as the juice level goes down?

Instead of glugging, and air being forced by the wick. The air is transported through the wicks thousands of air pockets. Maybe a hand off if you will inside the rayon.

 

[JeremyR]

The wick I made in the video was way too loose for a dripper. It has shrunk again. There is significant shrinkage. lol

It should have got much tighter.

The amount of shrinking may be different in different tanks... Now I'm thinking if my air transfer theory holds true. The air transfer through the wick may keep the wick bigger/ more airy in effect reducing the shrinkage factor...?.. A dripper has no transfer of air so shrinking may be more pronounced.

I wicked the evod no overwick @1/16 and the wife hasn't had any problems whatsoever for a week.. But it's also only 1.8ohm on an ego.

 

[vassilbg]

So a few observations thus far using Cellucotton in my KFL+ (My opinion only, your mileage may vary):

1. Short wick tails. I trim them so they are just touching lower deck, I noticed anything longer than that seems to lower overall performance.
2. A lot is still not enough. It shrinks within 24 hours. What may perform well today, might not tomorrow. This shrinkage causes the wick to sag within the coil, and you'll notice this happening when your pulls aren't as 'vaporous' and are a little harsher on your throat.

I'm going to re-wick tonight and see what type of changes I get. I'm almost considering laying out a big enough piece of Cellucotton on a piece of tin foil and soaking it in ejuice before running it through the coil. I will update on this method after I try it tonight.