Ive just built a new mod out of wood using a yihi sx-350 chip. Popped my rayon wicked rda on it and started vaping, couple hits in horrible taste...took me most of the day to realize the Ohm's and wattage play a huge factor in getting rayon to work correctly. almost thought rayon was the problem so i went back to cotton for a quick minute. Cotton works, but rayon is better. im figuring out what works and tastes good for me and my new mod. keep working with this stuff, it will shine once set up correctly.
Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
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Okay, really new on more than one level, but ...
For those people who think their organic cotton is somehow not proc'd etc, I just have to add it for prosterity: You really ought to look into how cotton balls are made before you thumb yer nose at the CC ... Grew up around it organic and not ... (shrug)
That being said, I'm pretty stuborn and had a slight "C" shaped coil in a new RDA (its a clone nimbus cap on a UD IGO W-4 - havent drilled the actual IDO yet) ... problem was getting the cotton threaded in there. Its 28g and .55 ohm. Key problem, slight "C" shape I couldn't get out. This little Kanthal has a memory for some reason.
Still new, but I've been trying to rewick this single coil too many times. Burn baby burn ... Or dry, or ... well you all probably know.
Had coupon for Sally's ... went down and got the box of 500 for $4.89.
First fast re-wick just now late at night and ... Cloud city with no burn.
Juice is 85% VG @ 6-7 nic ... (I'm sloppy when I mix ... I get close to 6)
Uhm , really tired, over nic'd (darn thing is really fast wicking) but wanted to say thank you for this thread and to the OP (I think it was) that posted this on one of RIP's tubes.
*Yes, I got my post count up earlier just so I could chime in finally about this ... Lurker by nature.
Cheers all.
For those people who think their organic cotton is somehow not proc'd etc, I just have to add it for prosterity: You really ought to look into how cotton balls are made before you thumb yer nose at the CC ... Grew up around it organic and not ... (shrug)
That being said, I'm pretty stuborn and had a slight "C" shaped coil in a new RDA (its a clone nimbus cap on a UD IGO W-4 - havent drilled the actual IDO yet) ... problem was getting the cotton threaded in there. Its 28g and .55 ohm. Key problem, slight "C" shape I couldn't get out. This little Kanthal has a memory for some reason.
Still new, but I've been trying to rewick this single coil too many times. Burn baby burn ... Or dry, or ... well you all probably know.
Had coupon for Sally's ... went down and got the box of 500 for $4.89.
First fast re-wick just now late at night and ... Cloud city with no burn.
Juice is 85% VG @ 6-7 nic ... (I'm sloppy when I mix ... I get close to 6)
Uhm , really tired, over nic'd (darn thing is really fast wicking) but wanted to say thank you for this thread and to the OP (I think it was) that posted this on one of RIP's tubes.
*Yes, I got my post count up earlier just so I could chime in finally about this ... Lurker by nature.
Cheers all.
So I just put a 30 gauge twisted parallel coil in my reomizer lp. Came out to 0.3 ohms or so. (The single hardest job getting the two wires in each side... was close to drilling the post holes). Put a bit of CC in there (in minimalistic fashion as per super X's video -- just enough to stick out of the coil a little bit.) This thing vapes HARD! Amazing flavor, very warm vape. I want to go back to my dual coils 0.5 ohm cyclone build with cc, but almost can't bring myself to do so. Next up, gonna see if I can do dual parallel coils with twisted 32 gauge in the cyclone, but fear that'll be too much for the holes in the posts.
CC is quite impressive. Coils that were previously gunked and dry burned to clean have stayed clean despite overnight sitting with typically gunky juice.
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CC is quite impressive. Coils that were previously gunked and dry burned to clean have stayed clean despite overnight sitting with typically gunky juice.
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I've increase the diameter of the coil to 2mm on my cyclone on the Reo. So far seems to work better than the smaller coil with CC. I've definitely used less cc compared to my previous try also. Thank you everyone.
Was from previous purchase sadly ... base price at my store was $10.99. Basically 60% off plus tax and some mystery calc their registers do sometimes.
Sorry bout that.
I was vaping a custard juice on my rayon wicked KFL+ tonight that tasted great on 9.5 watts when previously I would have used 7 watts. I switched to my other one with my usual juice without remembering to up the wattage and it tasted awful. It was strong and way too sweet. I finally remembered to up it to 11.5 watts and bam...perfect!
Juices require higher wattages to bring out the best flavor with rayon for me. I used to vape the same juice on 8 watts before I switched to rayon, now it tastes funky at 9 watts and great at 11.5. If your regular juice tastes different with rayon wicking my suggestion is to try upping the voltage or wattage for a better taste. It's a whole different experience using rayon.
Juices require higher wattages to bring out the best flavor with rayon for me. I used to vape the same juice on 8 watts before I switched to rayon, now it tastes funky at 9 watts and great at 11.5. If your regular juice tastes different with rayon wicking my suggestion is to try upping the voltage or wattage for a better taste. It's a whole different experience using rayon.
Thanks for the tenth confirmation of how to solve this problem, if everyone would have done a bit more reading they might not have cried about it and went back to cotton.
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its the ability to be able to do so....
rayon can wick more juice to your coil than cotton. so therefore you are able to turn the heat up to burn more juice.
a more efficient burn will taste better... you get no wick medium taste, it provides more juice on demand.
another killer video from cloud 50.
he is a master of wicking. its a little long,but goes over all the wicking mediums out there now.
definately worth watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk3l0rT38x8
he is a master of wicking. its a little long,but goes over all the wicking mediums out there now.
definately worth watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk3l0rT38x8
I got my 40' cellucotton and half lb of tencel today. I used the cc to wick one of my full-sized Russians using about the same amount as I did when using cotton. i like to stick the ends of the wick to the back walls and when I wet the ends with juice, I could see it wicking it's way up to the coil. I never saw it do it that quickly with cotton. I fired it up and after 4 or 5 hits got too much of a nic hit and had to put it down. It's 24mg Gorilla Juice so I might need to reduce the nic a bit because it was not pleasant. The vape was smoother than with cotton and the flavor was at least as good which is to say very full flavored. The amount of vapor was again, about the same and for this kind of topper it's pretty decent.
I haven't tried the tencel top yet.
I haven't tried the tencel top yet.
High aalwani, rayon is unlike any other wicking. Its unique because it delivers insane saturation to the coil with out flooding. More than can be achieved by anything. It's different because its properties rush juice onto the coil as it fires. With cotton your burning it off it. This is like old faithful when you hit the fire button.
The increased saturation is why you typically want more power to match. Giving a stronger more potent hit. This is something that lots of vapors are trying to achieve from their set up. Expect to want to watt up by at least 3-5 watts plus just to vape it.
If you don't you may get very saturated vapes with heavy th and
Nic hit.
You will not taste rayon unless you have it too tight in the coil, maybe a chunk in there, or a hot spot in the coil.
However I believe The vape can be tailored by the density of the wick I believe also. Since you said you use a tight wick you may be able to stick at same power. ? Don't know I just keep turning it up.. Now I need a DNA 50 or a mech because I can go over 24w now!
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Thanks for chiming in! Glad your liking the rayon. Yes I put up a video on you tube yesterday. However I'm not associated with rip.
Ripps tube... huh? Gosh this guys got a lot of followers.
Must have showed up as a recommended video for you.
You just got the cheapest wick ever!!!
And the purest, it's pure cellulose made in a laboratory. Doesn't get this pure in nature.
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Hey Jeremy, I usually vape 13-17 watts and I am asking because sometimes especially in stealth situations I put the watts down to 10 and have a higher amount of air in the mix. I was just worried that this type of vaping will be problematic for some reason. I guess I should just try it when I get the stuff.
Actually quite to the contrary.. I think you'll like it even better. I just went down to 11 watts and THe vape is stellar for me. Also opened wide on the air, strong pull. Seems like an increased nic hit to boot. No problems here.. So I don't know some people may have it overwicking from their tanks causing the issue.
Rba tanks have a dual set of flow controls. One juice flow into the coil(tighness in coil) second juice flow out of the tank.(channel tank wicks)
To get the same juice flow with rayon you have to use quite a bit in the channels or however you feed from your tank.
I suspect those with too saturated issues have too much feeding from the tank and need to modify how they did their tank / channel wicks to curb the relentless flow in the rayon... I don't think they realize its flowing too much because of its ability to hold the juice with out flooding. So it's kinda foriegn to them to understand what the situation is.... Since it doesn't flood. !!!
The rayon attracts the juice and holds it almost beyond the laws of physics.
Rba tanks have a dual set of flow controls. One juice flow into the coil(tighness in coil) second juice flow out of the tank.(channel tank wicks)
To get the same juice flow with rayon you have to use quite a bit in the channels or however you feed from your tank.
I suspect those with too saturated issues have too much feeding from the tank and need to modify how they did their tank / channel wicks to curb the relentless flow in the rayon... I don't think they realize its flowing too much because of its ability to hold the juice with out flooding. So it's kinda foriegn to them to understand what the situation is.... Since it doesn't flood. !!!
The rayon attracts the juice and holds it almost beyond the laws of physics.
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That would be just stellar in GG atomizers, and will change the way i wick my atomizers. I might rely on wicking from now on instead of delivering liquid freely to the coil.
Also to add ...
We all should know that a heavily saturated coil puts off less vapor at a comparable watt. And also an increased nic hit. Like when you flood a dripper. Experience / advanced vapers know all about the situation.
That's also why there is a sweet spot in the density to get the most vapor, flavor, and nic hit. Coil and tank wick density would need to match your set-up.
Low vapor is a sign it's getting to saturated for you setup.
But aalwani I think you'll have no problems working with this.
We all should know that a heavily saturated coil puts off less vapor at a comparable watt. And also an increased nic hit. Like when you flood a dripper. Experience / advanced vapers know all about the situation.
That's also why there is a sweet spot in the density to get the most vapor, flavor, and nic hit. Coil and tank wick density would need to match your set-up.
Low vapor is a sign it's getting to saturated for you setup.
But aalwani I think you'll have no problems working with this.
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