Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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JeremyR

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This reminds me of when Raidy came out with stainless steel mesh and genesis atomizers. I wonder if there is a new juice delivery device that would optimize the characteristics of this cellucotton/rayon. I think that if a manufaturer had used this for the fill/wick in carto's back when I started using them it would have blown all the other cartos away. One of the main things I disliked about cartos was a dry hit when they were going empty, and the burned filler. If you've ever disassembled a boge carto after heavy use you know what I am talking about.

100% exactly.

And that's what I used it for to make my own rba carto out of an oddy , see link in my signature for the birth of rayon. Lol

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And I do have an rba design specifically for rayon that I came up with last year.... Need manufacturing and production... ;)
 

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This reminds me of when Raidy came out with stainless steel mesh and genesis atomizers. I wonder if there is a new juice delivery device that would optimize the characteristics of this cellucotton/rayon. I think that if a manufaturer had used this for the fill/wick in carto's back when I started using them it would have blown all the other cartos away. One of the main things I disliked about cartos was a dry hit when they were going empty, and the burned filler. If you've ever disassembled a boge carto after heavy use you know what I am talking about.

Good point, I enjoyed cartos for about a year and I bet there would be an improvement in them with cellucotton.

Does anyone else notice how fast cellucotton absorbs juice? I thought I was just imagining things, but I watched it closely while dripping and juice disappears into it like water does into sand. I know readers who haven't used it might think "Well regular organic cotton wicks/absorbs fast too" but I swear it looks to be wicking faster.
 

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100% exactly.

And that's what I used it for to make my own rba carto out of an oddy , see link in my signature for the birth of rayon. Lol

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And I do have an rba design specifically for rayon that I came up with last year.... Need manufacturing and production... ;)

Send me specs n pics, search sub ohm bottom feeder beast to see the mod I made...
It speaks for itself...
 

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I have genesis tanks that I wick with twisted cotton ball, fed through the vertical coil into the tank. I lick my fingers and twist it tight enough to feed through. Am I going to have problems with this staying tight enough to feed through?

i did an aga t2 this morning and i stuffed it in coil then stuffed it in juice holes with a very very small screwdriver.
i dont know if id do it that way again. i think if there is a next time, ill do it different. if my coil was larger than the juice hole id cut the wick going to juice hole to fit and leave coils wick alone. if it was smaller, id stuff wickhole then fit coil over wick sticking out of hole. this is installing coil to device after wicking.
you dont get a dry burn on coil, but i believe most of us are pretty good at coils by now

key is you have to stuff the coil....it would be hard if not impossible to do it stuffing it through coil ...then through juice hole

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I have genesis tanks that I wick with twisted cotton ball, fed through the vertical coil into the tank. I lick my fingers and twist it tight enough to feed through. Am I going to have problems with this staying tight enough to feed through?

It should be easier than working with cotton. You Do the same thing only it's easier and the results are better.

Just start with a wick that looks 2 -3 times what you think you would use if cotton. Twist it long enough to go all the way through. Grab it on the other side. Take the main wick and twist it to bring it down to a rope, you can pull it right through. make sure you can still slide it back and forth with some resistance. Untwist it good. Soak it down give it 5 min. Try it out, then see how the wick sets after it breaks in. If it's not still tight in the coil and deck, use more.. You will end up with a perfect, even, wick.
 

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just got the rayon balls from delasco....
its the same fibers as sally's but in ball form. it unrolls just like cotton balls but when unrolled, its a thinner strip than what is pulled out of the box on sally's.
same same...just what you prefer.
sally's was definately cheaper. and easier to acquire. shipping cost for delasco rayon balls makes it a lesser choice
 

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Oh you can't access the bottom wick on the aga.
I don't have an aga, but I was able to thread this wick through this long coil trying to represent length of the aga coil & deck. I did not touch the bottom of the wick only the top. This is how I would try to do it.

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Wick was dry, about the amount I thought it would need. It was a large wick when light rolled, then folded over on itself and rolled twisted tight. .When you twist it tight, the size should be the diameter of your coil because it's really compressed, expect it to expand a little bit. On your wick point you have 3 seconds after you point it tight to push it to the deck so you can keep feeding it by twisting and lightly rolling at the coil if nessasary, but ideally not much or it may be too tight. If you just keep the wick twisting it will compresses itself with the tension to slide through. You'll just have to get the density close. Which sould only take a couple try's if you don't get it the first time. I would let this soak for a while for the wick to expand since it's compressed. You want subtle shoulders on it when broken in. Not bulging coming out of the tank, nice and flush with slight shoulders so you know its full.
 
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Just finished wicking my Kayfuns with CelluCotton. I have to say the flavor is so full, clean, and pure. No dry hits at all as of yet. Just wicked it like I would with cotton, but not really fusing about too much. Down side of this now...........I'm going to be chain vaping like crazy, no nicotine in my mixes :)

Just make sure to drink enough :p
I also vape 0mg, had the smiliar problem yesterday and ended up with a scratchy throat because i didn't drink
 

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Btw has anyone tried to do one of those split-wick builds with Rayon yet? The one where you put half of each wick between the coil and the post, and the other one down the juice channel?
I'm quite curious about this because i can imagine Rayon wicking good enough to fully saturate the wick even with only half and the extra cotton touching the coil would be a nice touch.
Thoughts?
 

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Someone mentioned that it doesn't want to stay twisted IIRC. You're saying if I spit on it or juice it I can keep it twisted long enough to get it through the coil and into the tank and then untwist it?

when wet it will stay twisted long enough to wick your coil

but ive found that dry is better
 
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Btw has anyone tried to do one of those split-wick builds with Rayon yet? The one where you put half of each wick between the coil and the post, and the other one down the juice channel?
I'm quite curious about this because i can imagine Rayon wicking good enough to fully saturate the wick even with only half and the extra cotton touching the coil would be a nice touch.
Thoughts?


because im a longtime ........im stumped...what atty are you talking about?
or is it a dripper?
 

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Thanks guys. I do 30ga 6/5 wrap on 5/64 ~2mm @ ~1.5Ω. I also recoil kanger BCC and Aspire BDC heads. I have done herds of coils and haven't used all of my first cotton ball, lol. I tried butcher twine but it doesn't seem to wick well. I also have silica and mesh but don't use them since cotton is so easy.

Hope my Sally has this stuff.
 

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they should paul!
and you are going to love it!!
i just got through messing around with an aga t2
wicking it should be similar to protank
i tried wetting it first....mistake!
roll it then push through coil....im going to wick a protank soon for testing
should be great
hope you like it!

oh remember once in to twist it the other way a little
 
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