Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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jakematic

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I just had my Stingray auto-fire for over 30 minutes with a R91% sitting on it, the atomizer was so hot it burned me when I picked it up (no exaggeration).

After I cooled the atomizer and device I popped a charged battery in and the wick survived without any issues. It's vaping like a champ.

So, when wicked properly an atomizer with a rayon wick can survive immense heat apparently. I am curious as hell what the wick actually looks like since the Russian is full of a premium NET.
 

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I just had my Stingray auto-fire for over 30 minutes with a R91% sitting on it, the atomizer was so hot it burned me when I picked it up (no exaggeration).

After I cooled the atomizer and device I popped a charged battery in and the wick survived without any issues. It's vaping like a champ.

So, when wicked properly an atomizer with a rayon wick can survive immense heat apparently. I am curious as hell what the wick actually looks like since the Russian is full of a premium NET.

f1vefour,

That's incredible first I would never thought cotton or rayon would survive something like that. The only way the Rayon could have survived something like that is there was enough juice in the tank and the rayon was able to keep up with the wicking demand or it would have flashed like gun powder.

Absolutely amazing !!!

PS - You are very lucky it was a tank with juice and no a dripper or you might have made this post from the E.R.
 

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the wick survived without any issues. It's vaping like a champ..

Excellent to hear !


Nope, not quite -- you haven't started squonking yet. :laugh:

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I had the exact same thing happen to me yesterday. Not quite that long but long enough one of fingers blistered and the mod was too hot to hold. Sat the copper down in my truck and went in the gas station came out and noticed there was vapor coming out. Tried to pick it up (not a great idea btw ), scorched my finger, and set it down on the ground as easily as possible. The only thing that got jacked up was my cherry vapes cloud chaser tip. Had a .2 ohm twisted 26g dual coil with rayon in a 28mm tobh sitting on my copper 26650. A few hours later it was still good. Got lucky, will be more careful where I set it from now on.
 

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I had the exact same thing happen to me yesterday. Not quite that long but long enough one of fingers blistered and the mod was too hot to hold. Sat the copper down in my truck and went in the gas station came out and noticed there was vapor coming out. Tried to pick it up (not a great idea btw ), scorched my finger, and set it down on the ground as easily as possible. The only thing that got jacked up was my cherry vapes cloud chaser tip. Had a .2 ohm twisted 26g dual coil with rayon in a 28mm tobh sitting on my copper 26650. A few hours later it was still good. Got lucky, will be more careful where I set it from now on.

26650 - your lucky you didn't set your truck on fire.
 

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I just got some rayon today and rewicked my Kayfun with some and filled it up with some Dionysus' Aphrodisiac by Zeus Juice (strawberries and cream flavor). It hits very smooth and the flavor does seem more pure and clean to me. My juice definitely feels like it tastes better with this setup instead of the cotton, not that I really had any complaints about the cotton. My only gripe is what seems to feel like a slight irritation in my throat but its not as bad as when I first switched to cotton. Overall, I can see myself getting used to this. I like it a lot so far.
 

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f1vefour,

That's incredible first I would never thought cotton or rayon would survive something like that. The only way the Rayon could have survived something like that is there was enough juice in the tank and the rayon was able to keep up with the wicking demand or it would have flashed like gun powder.

Absolutely amazing !!!

PS - You are very lucky it was a tank with juice and no a dripper or you might have made this post from the E.R.

I agree, luckily it was full. I had just rewicked and filled it with a NET I received today, sat it down while I ate only to come back to a most unpleasant surprise.
 
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After reading a good sized portion of this thread last night I went to Sallys today.
The first atty I rewicked was my taifun gt. I have only had it a couple of weeks and so far I haven't been impressed. Several organic cotton builds and I finally got one that gave me good flavor and decent vapor. I still had to be careful how I vaped it to avoid dry hits. 1.4ohm coil and 12.5 watts. With the cc in the same coil, better flavor, better vapor and able to chain vape at 17.5 watts. The flavor drops off any higher. I like a warm vape.
Next was my magma rda. 1.1ohm dual coils organic cotton. I couldn't go over forty watts on my sx350 mod. Any higher and I could taste cotton. Swapped the cotton for cc and no problem vaping at 50 watts.
On the zenith v2 .8ohm dual coils I really didn't notice much of a difference.
I'm getting better flavor from my bobas bounty in my r91 with cc than with oc. I don't see a difference in vapor.
I'll be putting this in the rest of my tanks as the time comes to rewick.
Thanks everybody, so far this is a win.
 

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And that is because every different metal requires a different speed of drilling. Of course, the smaller holes could be drilled at higher speed. Stainless Steel is not hard at all, but it is very tuff. Therefore you need good quality sharp bits and slower speed drilling. Your Dremel was too fast for the job and your dad's slower drill from the 80s was just right. In this situation too slow drilling is better then too fast.

I enlarged the juice channels in my ToBeCo 28.5 mm Kayfun Lite Plus as well. Because I was getting not enough wicking issue. I took three shots at it. And my final try was successful. Only I used a different way of doing it: I made a steel nut 4mm tall, threaded to M12-0.75. The same threads of the chimney. Screw that nut onto where the chimney goes flush with the deck. And drilled right into the vertical channels with 2 mm drill bit. That way the drill bit will cut one half of the metal of the nut and the other half of the juice channel. The channel comes out perfectly strait (cylindrically shaped) and exactly the same size on both ends. See for yourself:

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Edit: Ah yes, use a little lubricant/coolant when drilling SS. Your own saliva works well.

Apologies if we're getting a little off topic,

Omg this is so clean! I didn't notice your user name haha! I shouldn't be surprised, your work on my fogger V4 was nice & clean as well. :)
 

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... better than cotton in nic hit, flavor, wicking, or longevity, you don't have the correct density. If you taste it it's too tight.
I get the nic, flavor, and wicking but I am not getting any increased longevity.

I've tried more CC (then get some off the wall flavor), less CC which lacks everything compared to cotton, and what I think is the right amount. But after about six hours of actual vaping using RDA the center part of the wick inside the coil gets smaller loosing contact with the coils.

I've used CC on quite a few different builds, 26 gauge 9/8 or 8/7 wrap coils on 5 or 7/64 bit, vaping around 20-25 watts. I do have a habit of chain vaping.

Any ideas on how to get the longevity? I have the same issue with cotton which also gets dark in the center, and is what sent me on a wicking search in the first place.
 

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I'll take a pic of the wick I've run 100ml. (yes, One hundred ml.) Thru, I've switched 7 or 8 different juices nic levels and pv/vg ratios as well, I'm still using it right now.

I believe this build is around 0.67ohm, it's 28ga, not too big you can take a guess my meters got dead batteries currently and I can't remember.
 
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The yellow brown color is due mostly to the current juice, it's wet, and the juice is honey color. If I pull the wick thru the coil it's definitely darker where it's Ben inside the coil but if I were to rinse it with water it would be very close to how it came out of the box.

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Man, you've got to replace those screws on your Helios because they will rust. Just FYI.
 
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