Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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Now that is one nice looking setup, the FEV on a Flask....
Your Plasma tank on the Flask is still king of the hill for looks IMHO. ;)

Thanks Troll! The Plasma is a very cool tank and performs well too. Speaking of which, it needs a rebuild.

I'll post this here since its my new daily mod.. Fev 5ml on i50, Next to zmax for size comparison.

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Nice Jeremy! I just recently got my brother's ex-wife started with vaping. We got her an iStick 30w with a Kanger Subtank Mini and she loves it. I tried it out with the 1.2Ω factory coil she was using. Ramped it up to 30w and wow! I was pretty impressed.

When I first started vaping, I got an eGo starter kit from a B&M. 2 batteries, 2 tanks & some juice. Total price came to a little over $90 and there was no way that that was going to get me off of the stinkies. I don't think I had them for a week before I was looking for something more satisfying. I think my brother's ex-wife spent right around $100 for her setup and a 30ml bottle of premium juice. With that rig and her will to quit smoking, I am sure she can be successful. I so wish I would have skipped those eGos. Ah well, hindsight is 20/20.

Maybe has TP?

Can a TP device even fire that low? The Evolv chip's datasheet says nickel coils should be between 0.10Ω and 1.00Ω but it will step down if below 0.10Ω. I know I've been able to fire a .06Ω coil before but 0.03Ω seems awful low.
 

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Yeah jax, my buddy just started vaping finally. He bought an ego kit from bm for like 60.00, and pg juice, then another tank and spinner online, then I gave him my zmax and a dripper to use with some vg. He was likewow. All within 2 weeks. Lol

The isticks 50 is much like a mini flask. :) without TP
 
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Well I did a new build on the KF Undead, 28g spaced from a 3.5mm screw 1.5Ω, wicked and trimmed.

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It works, but I do get that totally annoying popping of juice with the first vape after it sits.
It is possible that I have the Rayon to tight which is causing the popping?

Tried this at 10W's and it is just not for me, it reminds me of the Nautilus/Genitank days at that power level. I have really been really spoiled by the Origen V2, massive flavor and great vapor production, but it is quite the juice hog. I can just imagine what the Genesis will be like when it arrives... :D

Did you bump it to 15-20? Do you know how big the air flow is on the undead?

Coil looks really nice!

Yes when I wicked real tight I got a lot of popping.... You can grab some strands at the top and slide then out like pulling a splinter. I would hold the other side of the wick to keep from pulling on the whole thing.

Dude!!! The slots are excellent!! Wth why didn't I thing of that. Did you come up with it or see it somewhere. I hate the dreaded screw pull.

If your going higher wattage it has to be a juice hog to keep up
 
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Did you bump it to 15-20? Do you know how big the air flow is on the undead?

Coil looks really nice!

Yes when I wicked real tight I got a lot of popping.... You can grab some strands at the top and slide then out like pulling a splinter. I would hold the other side of the wick to keep from pulling on the whole thing.

Dude!!! The slots are excellent!! Wth why didn't I thing of that. Did you come up with it or see it somewhere. I hate the dreaded screw pull.

If your going higher wattage it has to be a juice hog to keep up

Thanks Jeremy!
Wrapping the 28g tightly on a screw keeps the coils uniform, this one I wrapped backwards as the legs come down from the top instead of across the bottom. So I'll have to do another one as I don't like the looks of this one. Not that it matters since it is inside the Kayfun and no one sees it, but I know it is there like that. :D

I did kick it up to 20W this AM and will see how that works out, no dry hits yet so it is wicking well. I'll pull some strands out and hope to get rid of that popping.

The wire grooves I had an idea about for quite a while, but never went looking to see if anyone else had done this before. I will be doing this to all my Kayfuns as getting the coil nicely placed and having a wire pop out on you is most aggravating!

Try it out as it is an easy mod that works very well.
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I have a question or two about the box of Rayon I bought from Sally's, the girl said it had been there quite a while.

My previous Rayon seemed to be in one continuous piece, you could take a section anywhere and not be able to pull it apart, it had to be cut. The stuff I picked up will break easily into hunks with a pull. Is this normal for the Graham Rayon?

There is also a cotton taste to this where the previous Rayon I had had absolutely zero taste to it at all. The cotton taste does go away after a bit, could this be from the age of it.

I can't really take it back because it has a cotton taste, they will look at me like I am looney. :D

I might peel off 100' and see if the Rayon under that pile is any different.

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Oh you better believe I will try the mod..

All rayon fiber I have will pull apart nicely when grabbed at least 6 in apart. Really close like 2 inches you cannot pull it apart. Tencel is the exception.

Wicking too tight you will taste it, more of a woody nutty more neutral taste.

Yeah peel half of it out or something the top half could have absorbed something fro. the air and filtered it out before it hit the lower half..

It does say 100 rayon right?
 
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Here's my YouTube channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZL516PK7M2gksMlJk75cow?spfreload=10

You cab see how it pulls apart in the beginning of this video the first one I made showing the qualities of the wick when handling... I notice I also used a twist method to compress the rayon to slide it through.. Though I haven't done that in a while myself.


 

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Yeah jax, my buddy just started vaping finally. He bought an ego kit from bm for like 60.00, and pg juice, then another tank and spinner online, then I gave him my zmax and a dripper to use with some vg. He was likewow. All within 2 weeks. Lol

The isticks 50 is much like a mini flask. :) without TP

Yeah, I wish I would have known someone that was already into vaping before I started and I could have skipped a bunch of stuff. But alas, no one that I know vaped at the time.

I got my oldest son to pick up vaping and he's been cigarette free now for a little over one month. I started him off with drippers on mechs and tanks on a Provari. He's a nerd like his old man and is eating up the tinkering aspect.

Yeah, that iStick feels very good in hand and 50w should be more than enough for most folks.

It does say 100 rayon right?

This.

Troll, does your box look like the correct one in the image below?

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Thanks Jeremy!
Wrapping the 28g tightly on a screw keeps the coils uniform, this one I wrapped backwards as the legs come down from the top instead of across the bottom. So I'll have to do another one as I don't like the looks of this one. Not that it matters since it is inside the Kayfun and no one sees it, but I know it is there like that. :D

I did kick it up to 20W this AM and will see how that works out, no dry hits yet so it is wicking well. I'll pull some strands out and hope to get rid of that popping.

The wire grooves I had an idea about for quite a while, but never went looking to see if anyone else had done this before. I will be doing this to all my Kayfuns as getting the coil nicely placed and having a wire pop out on you is most aggravating!

Try it out as it is an easy mod that works very well.
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Not to steal your thunder in any way, but the Stillare V3 has the wire grooves... not sure why more companies don't use it or why so many companies insist on using screws that aren't intended to capture a wire being wrapped around them etc. When it's as simple as selecting a different screw head, I would imagine the feature option would be worth it to the manufacturer.
 

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Defective balls sounds like a potential medical problem, LOL.

Seriously, it really doesn't take a whole lot to wick a coil with rayon. I use Sally's and get, typically, four to eight wicks out of a four inch by one inch piece. That's wicking Foggers and Erlkonigin. I've never tried the Delasco balls, but when unrolled, they should do a fair number of coils. Jeremy is the man to really answer though.
 

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Accounting for waste, how many wicks should you be able to make out of a typical unrolled Delasco rayon ball?

It really depends on how big your coil diameter is. I use the largest screwdriver in a 5 piece micro screwdriver set as a mandrel. I get about 6 wicks from 1 Delasco ball, but if your coil is smaller you'd get more. YMMV
 

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The delascos are kind of small balls... with waste, I'm not frugal with it, I would get 2-4 with one.

I usually take half the length and make one wick to start with and stretch it to fit while I pull it in.

It does take 50% or more wick density than cotton.

One wick should last you at least 4 time a cotton if not 10 times longer.
 
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Oh you better believe I will try the mod..

All rayon fiber I have will pull apart nicely when grabbed at least 6 in apart. Really close like 2 inches you cannot pull it apart. Tencel is the exception.

Wicking too tight you will taste it, more of a woody nutty more neutral taste.

Yeah peel half of it out or something the top half could have absorbed something fro. the air and filtered it out before it hit the lower half..

It does say 100 rayon right?

Yup 100% Rayon, I will take a lift or two off the top and compare.

Here's my YouTube channel
You cab see how it pulls apart in the beginning of this video the first one I made showing the qualities of the wick when handling... I notice I also used a twist method to compress the rayon to slide it through.. Though I haven't done that in a while myself.
I will give that a look when I get home.

Troll, does your box look like the correct one in the image below?

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Sure does. :)
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Thanks Guys!
 

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Not to steal your thunder in any way, but the Stillare V3 has the wire grooves... not sure why more companies don't use it or why so many companies insist on using screws that aren't intended to capture a wire being wrapped around them etc. When it's as simple as selecting a different screw head, I would imagine the feature option would be worth it to the manufacturer.

Very Cool, no thunder stolen... :D
I didn't think that there weren't any other post out there that didn't have some sort of wire capture method. I agree this should be a feature on all devices or at least crowns around the screws like on the Marquis or the Subtank's screw walls.
 

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The delascos are kind of small balls... with waste, I'm not frugal with it, I would get 2-4 with one.

I usually take half the length and make one wick to start with and stretch it to fit while I pull it in.

It does take 50% or more wick density than cotton.

One wick should last you at least 4 time a cotton if not 10 times longer.

If you ever watch one of Jeremy's wicking videos you'll see he's definitely not frugal with it. :)
 
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