Reservoir Straw & Plug Mod (RSP Mod)

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a2dcovert

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Stehle,

Ditto on everything you said. Kristin is doing a great job. This mod is very important to me and others. I have never had a cart perform as well as one with this mod. I think they are swatting at nats by critizing the components. I don't know of any thing that doesn't contain some potential issues when it comes to dealing with plastics.. But since our entire existance is full of plastics and polymers I don't think there is anything but perception of harm.

I can't seem to get the plug thickness right on such a small plug. Its also very hard to see the weave or which way grain runs. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. :) (Time for the magnifying glass again!) ;-)

For all the juice folks... I have the best results with Vermont Vaper which are a thick VG blend and the worst luck with commercial import juice which is primarily PG.

These factors will always be the main issues. Someone who isn't using the cookie-cutter ingrediences may have to adjust the plug. But, the fact is they are dealing with them now by using the stock filler as well. We're writing the book on these issues as we go anyway. So some detours may be necessary.

It's all positive in my book.

Kevin
 

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Sorry if my question put a damper on the Buff Puff party. I'm fairly new to the whole vaping thing, and don't have a long history of trying various filler materials out. I did recall hearing that polyurethane had some negative things associated with it (having nothing to do with vaping), and so, I asked what, if anything, members here knew about it. Kristin kindly investigated past the first-look response to determine more about the product, and I was pleased to hear her results; perhaps no one here saw my post to that effect. As noted in my first post in this thread, I am extremely grateful for this mod being shared here, as it worked very well for me. But perhaps that post, also, was not noticed.

Can we please not jump all over the new vaper for asking an innocent question?
 

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I have never had a cart perform as well as one with this mod. I think they are swatting at nats by critizing the components. I don't know of any thing that doesn't contain some potential issues when it comes to dealing with plastics.. But since our entire existance is full of plastics and polymers I don't think there is anything but perception of harm.

It's all positive in my book.

Kevin

Well said a2dcovert! You and I think alike on this. :)

-or-

To put it another way...

"Wee doe'n smell no steenk'in burnt plasteek!'

Seriously... we vapers put it in our mouths everyday.

We should know. ;) 'nuff said.
 

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Can we please not jump all over the new vaper for asking an innocent question?

Your post never entered my mind fanofwalt, were all good. :)

Lets get back to RSP-BS Modding!!! :p

Que the Youtube video...:pop: Wait!!!.... we need a RSP-BS Mod video to watch!!! :confused:
 
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This is cheering news! Thank you for digging deeper. Guess my facial skin cells will have to make do with my usual apricot cleansing scrub. Back to the buff!! (Good -- I've been dealing with separated, burning fibers today -- ehh.)

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Sorry if my question put a damper on the Buff Puff party. I'm fairly new to the whole vaping thing, and don't have a long history of trying various filler materials out. I did recall hearing that polyurethane had some negative things associated with it (having nothing to do with vaping), and so, I asked what, if anything, members here knew about it. Kristin kindly investigated past the first-look response to determine more about the product, and I was pleased to hear her results; perhaps no one here saw my post to that effect. As noted in my first post in this thread, I am extremely grateful for this mod being shared here, as it worked very well for me. But perhaps that post, also, was not noticed.

Can we please not jump all over the new vaper for asking an innocent question?

You are right, Kristin has spent a lot of time on testing and research and it shows.

I get so amazed at times with some of the health questions raised. After all we are breathing poisonous pestacide vapor and yet some get all excited about some other component of the PV might be harmful. Even if using a PV was only 50% less harmful than cigarettes it would be worth the change. Using a PV is about 95% safer than cigarettes and they will save a lot of lives.

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Hi All,

I've been playing around with the mod and I have come to the same conclusions.
1. The buff Puff material works great
2. I tried it without the straw just the plug. No joy. The plug either floods the atty or is so tight it can’t wick
3. I tried a full piece with no straw and worked great. But it is viscosity sensitive as it has been mentioned.
4. I did not notice much difference between the straw mod/plug and the full piece of Buff Puff. The full piece drained 90%-95% of what the straw mod did.
Overall this great stuff with or without the straw. I’m going to stick to the full piece. For me it’s easier to refill and not much loss in performance. YMMV :thumbs:
 
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That is what I did Kristin. I was more converned about the novices that were trying the mod and giving up because of leaking. My normal liquid is a custom mix where I use 30% VG in the mix and it works perfectly. Straight PG liquid I tried would leak on the blue plug mod. Increasing the density of the plug corrected it.

I was thinking that some mention about this should be included in the description of the mods as most novices will be using commercial juice.

Kevin

Oh, I see what you're saying now, Kevin. That's a very good point.

I'm about ready to start a new thread with a new diagram and/or photos with the BP material as the plug. I'm going to use the BP a little longer to fully test it. This thread has become pretty long and there were a lot of changes since the first mod post. Or maybe I'll just get Sun to edit the first post for me.

I just completed day 5 and this same plug is still working like a champ!

I did rinse out the plug today - not because it was performing different, but because it just looked kind of nasty, lol!
 

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Oh, I see what you're saying now, Kevin. That's a very good point.

I'm about ready to start a new thread with a new diagram and/or photos with the BP material as the plug. I'm going to use the BP a little longer to fully test it. This thread has become pretty long and there were a lot of changes since the first mod post. Or maybe I'll just get Sun to edit the first post for me.

I just completed day 5 and this same plug is still working like a champ!

I did rinse out the plug today - not because it was performing different, but because it just looked kind of nasty, lol!

That sounds great Kristin. Can't wait to see your results. I like the idea of a new thread. Some other threads have become confusing by updating in the middle. A fresh start with a solid new product is a good idea.

Kevin
 

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I have been playing around too. Tried the straw, spring, piece of cart cover, blue foam and buff puff. I think I have finally found the best for me. Nothing in the cart and a plug of buff puff. Have two carts working like that now. Will be able to tell more in a couple days. So far working great, no flooding and wicking great. Thank you Kristin for all of the work you did on this.
 

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Hi All,

I've been playing around with the mod and I have come to the same conclusions.
1. The buff Puff material works great
2. I tried it without the straw just the plug. No joy. The plug either floods the atty or is so tight it can’t wick
3. I tried a full piece with no straw and worked great. But it is viscosity sensitive as it has been mentioned.
4. I did not notice much difference between the straw mod/plug and the full piece of Buff Puff. The full piece drained 90%-95% of what the straw mod did.
Overall this great stuff with or without the straw. I’m going to stick to the full piece. For me it’s easier to refill and not much loss in performance. YMMV :thumbs:
I'm going to have to play with the full filler BP. My husband has been happy with it, though. Today we were on a 5 hour car drive and I had to refill for him a couple of times. On the first, new fill, I got in 12 drops. On subsequent refills, 5-7 drops. Not what I was hoping for, but maybe I made it wider than 8mm and it's too compressed, since you're having good results with it. I would love to have a BP mod that can be refilled without a pair of tweezers!

Maybe the old polyfill/coffee straw mod with the BP instead?
 

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I have been playing around too. Tried the straw, spring, piece of cart cover, blue foam and buff puff. I think I have finally found the best for me. Nothing in the cart and a plug of buff puff. Have two carts working like that now. Will be able to tell more in a couple days. So far working great, no flooding and wicking great. Thank you Kristin for all of the work you did on this.

How tall and wide would you say your plug is? Someone else tried the plug alone and was getting flooding. It'd be good to know what you did different to make it work! :)
 

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I can't seem to get the plug thickness right on such a small plug. Its also very hard to see the weave or which way grain runs. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. :) (Time for the magnifying glass again!) ;)

The Perfect 510 Case... for about a $1.50

I see you have your own Walgreen's mod! :D

For the smaller plug, try cutting it taller than the actual depth of your final size desired. That way you can see the grain better while working with it. Slide it into the cart and then trim off the excess flush with a pair of scissors.

So, instead of cutting a piece 5mm X 4mm X 8mm. Make it 8mm X 4mm X 8mm, then trim off what remains after putting it into the cart.
 

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Hey, Kristen,

I haven't really been following the ADM since it first hit the scene. See you're off and running with the drinking straw idea. I haven't had a chance to read through all the files, but has anyone suggested CeramaBryte pads yet? They're made to clean glass top ranges. It's kind of like just the top of a Scotch Brite pad.

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Would it be, too thin?

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I've got a fresh one, but I've also got work tomorrow, so I can't stay up and play tonight.

--Prof Daffy
 

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I haven't seen those suggested, Prof.

We are currently working with a facial cleansing sponge called a Buff Puff. I use a generic version from Walgreens. It has similar properties to the Scotch Brite, but offers a unique benefit of directional fibers that have an accordian-type property. It allows it to expande to fill the opening, yet the accordian "channels" have a superior wicking capability. I've now been using the same plug for 5 days without anyt reduction in it's performance!

I would like to get some of those for my new glass top range, though!!
 
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Kristin, I have a solution to the cart refilling problem. I use a syringe and needle to refill at home. I don't take it out in public for obvious reasons. I have located a source for dropper bottles that have a steel needle to allow you to refill the cart by putting the needle between the plug and cart wall refilling from the bottom. Here's the link to my thread here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-needle-dripper-bottle-anyone-seen-one.html

I hope to get one tomorrow at Hobby Lobby.

Kevin
 
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