Reservoir Straw & Plug Mod (RSP Mod)

[poppabear49]

Been folllowing this thread for sometime now, thanx kristin for all your effort. The BP plug has worked great for me along with the straw mod. Agree the plug does sometimes slip loose so i make it slightly bigger and compress it a bit so far so good, have been using for about 2wks or so.
Am using on a 901, going to try it on my 801 next. Thanx again

 

[mELIANTE]

After getting the idea from this topic I tried using the filters I had left, from when I rolled my cigarettes, as a plug and it was a perfect match. Got the cart dry to the bone and it tasted great, along with consistent throat hit all the way

 

[kristin]

After getting the idea from this topic I tried using the filters I had left, from when I rolled my cigarettes, as a plug and it was a perfect match. Got the cart dry to the bone and it tasted great, along with consistent throat hit all the way

I've read that the filter material is too absorbant and holds the liquid, but maybe it works better as a shorter plug? What dimensions did you use?

I've been using the RSP with BP the past few days and i'm still very happy with it. You definitely have to orientate the "accordian" to the widest part of the cart opening and make sure it's wide enough to fit snugly, to keep it from loosening and getting sucked into the atty!

I'm currently using a 4mm X 10mm wide plug on a 13mm straw. I also only have 2 notches, so as not to let TOO much air behind it to push it into the atty when it dries.

 

[kristin]

OK, I was doing some more reading and an idea hit me to try. I was thinking about capping off the end of the cart with a piece of PTB, but how to hold it in place? I tried placing a piece over the end and sliding the atty on, but that leaves a bunch sticking out the sides and is pretty messy. Then I was looking at the straw and thinking, could THAT be capped off? I couldn't figure out a way to do it, but I did hit upon putting the PTB in the straw. I'm testing it right now - I'll let you know how it goes. It's not a reservoir style mod, but if it wicks well, it still holds 12-15 drops of liquid, is easily made and is easily refillable.

This would be a whole new mod. Testing now!

 

[a2dcovert]

I've read that the filter material is too absorbant and holds the liquid, but maybe it works better as a shorter plug? What dimensions did you use?

I've been using the RSP with BP the past few days and i'm still very happy with it. You definitely have to orientate the "accordian" to the widest part of the cart opening and make sure it's wide enough to fit snugly, to keep it from loosening and getting sucked into the atty!

I'm currently using a 4mm X 10mm wide plug on a 13mm straw. I also only have 2 notches, so as not to let TOO much air behind it to push it into the atty when it dries.

I also tried the analog filters and they seemed great at first. They soon fall apart and they don't wick as well.

Kristin, I am still very satisfied with the RSP with the BP. I have found that with experimentation you can get the right length for the straws and the size for the plug. The BP material does slightly lose it's firmness and compresses a little. I have compensated for this by adjustments.

Sometimes I do get the plug to stick to the atty but it doesn't happen very often. The cause for this is the plug has compressed and is now too small to fit tightly into the cart. I have begun using a slightly bigger plug. This has almost completely eleminated this issue. It does decrease the wicking at first but soon the plug relaxes and loosens up enough to aid the wicking. I'm satisfied that this mod is the best for me right now. We'll see over time if my position changes but it really looks good long term.

Kevin

 

[rtbob]

Hey all,
Love all these little tricks, they really enhance the vaping experience. I'm using a very small (maybe 2mm) in diameter hollow tube which uses capillary action to pull the liquid out of the bottom of the cart and pushes the juice directly into my plug. So far it is working great. I cut the tube beveled at the bottom end and about an 1/8th inch shorter than the cart. If it is too long it will pump all the juice into the attie! Oh and also I have a EVO brand 401, but this will work on a 510 also.

 

[mELIANTE]

OK, I was doing some more reading and an idea hit me to try. I was thinking about capping off the end of the cart with a piece of PTB, but how to hold it in place? I tried placing a piece over the end and sliding the atty on, but that leaves a bunch sticking out the sides and is pretty messy. Then I was looking at the straw and thinking, could THAT be capped off? I couldn't figure out a way to do it, but I did hit upon putting the PTB in the straw. I'm testing it right now - I'll let you know how it goes. It's not a reservoir style mod, but if it wicks well, it still holds 12-15 drops of liquid, is easily made and is easily refillable.

This would be a whole new mod. Testing now!

I use a ~1mm plug in my m401 carts. I don't use regular analogs filters, but slim "roll your own" filters, which are denser, with no wraping. Cut them a little smaller in diameter than the cart, so the fibers won't be compressed and ~1mm tall. To act just like a plug, and not count much on the wicking capabilities, but it doesn't leak, doesn't flood and it gets the cart bone dry

 

[shades]

Ok.. so I don't know if I have caught a case of the kristinitis

But I was in love with the straw and the poly.... Then I started getting mouthfuls of liquid and flooded attys.

So then I tried the PTB and random success with that.. at first sure... it was like it was the hottest woman alive, and then after a while it turned out I had beer goggles on and woke up the next morning ready to saw my arm off to get away with out waking "it".

Hopefully this wont be the same, but current my new love affair is the blue scotch brite, with the fibers across, and the straw.

I don't want to marry it just yet.. need some time together to see if we are right for one another, but atm I am smitten

Although I was wondering about trying the "little bags" you would use for a Colman lantern.... perhaps as a bigger version of the PTB.

Regardless of it all, I just want to thank those who keep looking and trying new things!

You all rock

 

[Scottes]

OK, I finally broke down and cut up the Buff Puff. I don't like it as much as the blue Marineland foam (either from eclypse's thread or this one - I forget now).

The BP does *not* like 5 or 6 volts. A plug lasts about a day, and the 6-volt plug is either melting the fibers or the binder.

I also find that the BP retains a bit of liquid. I'm vaped the blue foam bone dry.

So I'm going back to the blue foam - at least it lasts 2 days, and the thickness fits the width of a 510 cartridge perfectly.

Now I just need to find an easy way to cut a bunch of them quickly and easily... Maybe I'll have a square hole punch made. Scottbee's round one is excellent for the 901, but the 510 need a square plug. I wonder how expensive it would be to get a square punch with the correct dimensions???

 

[a2dcovert]

Scottes,

I'm sorry you weren't able to get the PB material to work. After experimentation I have been using it for more than a week full time and I have it working quite well. The 5v was a challenge but I think I have it under control. I've found the PB material to hold up much better than the blue foam. The foam looses it's strength and becomes limp after a day or two.

I have 10 carts in rotation and they are working well. I hope you find the system that works best for you.

Kevin

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

I think we need to have a contest to determine how many straws Kristin has killed since starting up this thread. When I first suggested cutting the straw at a angle to create better flow I didn't realize I was creating your worst nightmare.

After thinking it through--and having some free time to actually try out my ideas--I've finally decided to get rid of the straw altogether.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...pc-automatic-drop-mod-paper-clip-variant.html

I've been vaping with it for days now and it gives me the same performance as the original ADM, which was awesome, but solved a lot of the flow problems I had with my half straw/half poly-fil approach. I had a lot of faith in that 50/50 mod. When I originally shied away from the spring I had two directions to go in, plastic straw or paper clip. At one point I was even thinking of inverting the clip so the little feet held the poly-fil in place. I've tried a ton of different fillers and always go back to poly-fil. The original ADM spring had the advantage that it completely drained the reservoir and the paper clip does, too.

I'm very happy with the results and I think I've found a configuration that works for me--or I wouldn't have posted it--but my days of cutting up straws is over. And not a moment too soon!

--Prof Daffy
P.S. Not that I won't be checking out this thread from time to time.

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

Famous last words: my days of cutting up straws are over.

Hey, I almost went 8 hours without cutting up a straw! Okay, so here's the deal. I was thinking about the ADC-PC mod and why it works and then I hit on an idea to use the straws for the same exact purpose.

You'll have to play around with this to get some accurate numbers, I only had time for one test run. Cut the straw about 30-32mm in length. Then cut it down the middle. Remove the thinnest strip you can lengthwise, try for under 2mm thick. Bend it into a U shape and place the feet of the U at the bottom of the cart. You should end up with the same results as the paper clip. The trick is to get a small enough sliver to allow the juice to flow. Just like this, but with your thin strip/sliver of straw as the arch...

Try it out and let me know what you think...

--Prof Daffy
P.S. See, I didn't forget about the straws!

 

[ALUCARD]

Interesting, works pretty good daff

 

[kristin]

OK, I've been using a new straw mod all day today and so far, it's working pretty well! I'm going to use it a while longer to test it, but it's basically a straw stuffed with PTB.

I cut the straw to 13mm and double-notched the bottom. Then I took a half of a PTB, centered it on pointy tweezers and inserted it into the straw, until the point was even with the bottom of the straw. I inserted it all into the cart, then I trimmed off the excess, even with the top. It holds about 10-12 drops and seems to be wicking really well. It's also is completely refillable without removing it. The only thing is being careful not to overfill or it can flood the atty. Refills have been consistantly 10 drops, after the vapor production reduces, so it's using up most of the liquid.

I'll keep you guys appraised and if it keeps working this well, I'll put together some pics for you - but it's pretty easy to do!

 

[SurvivorMcGyver]

Dang... You got us all running around town LOL

(well for some) pretty much all everyone has mentioned I have in stock at home ('cept the BP -- think I'll wait on that that one until the tally is in)

Anyways,..... thanks for the the inspiration. Mcgyver that I am, I've tried it all, with much success and many failures. Someone said that "all mods vape better in the begining".... and believe me many are WONDERFUL!!! AND MANY DO!

To see what stands the test of time is yet to be known....

Keep it up and keep us tuned in and motivated -- Thanks again, Kristen

[Used spring1 (horizantal), spring 2 (vertical), straw 1, straw 2, straw 3, paper clip, paper clip mod (mod with straw 4) - all with ptb, fluval, blue foam, air filter mentioned above, 906 3m greenpad, blue 3m no- scratch, OEM original cuts ,.... the list goes on -- all seperately and together -- guess I need to try the BP eh. They all work... eh em ... or do we work for them?

PS: You'll have to describe the PTB/staw mod a little more and lend your experiences. Was this just a loose sheet?

 

[a2dcovert]

I think that the theory of the RSP is a sound idea. All we have to do is to fine tune it. There are many different methods of creating the reservoir. The part that eludes us so far is getting the perfect product and or thickness of the plug. For me the only unanswered question involves the 5v and 6v application. I have the 3.7v product perfected and use it daily, 3.7v is easy. I also use the same version with 5v too but slightly modified and it's design changes often. It is working but not at 100%. I think that if we keep at it we will get the product we need.

Kevin

 

[McCordRM]

I use the flat-tip carts. I'm looking at the pics and my cartridges and still have NO idea
what's going on. What does putting the paperclip in there between the foam and your
lips accomplish?

 

[a2dcovert]

I use the flat-tip carts. I'm looking at the pics and my cartridges and still have NO idea
what's going on. What does putting the paperclip in there between the foam and your
lips accomplish?

The paperclip goes in the bottom of the cart below the filler material. It is what creates the reservoir for the liquid.

Kevin

 

[mnealtx]

How well does this (or the paperclip variant) work for 801?

 

[a2dcovert]

How well does this (or the paperclip variant) work for 801?

I'm not sure as I only use the 510. Maybe ProfessorDaffy will know.

Kevin