RM2 / RBA 2.0 / Reomizer 2 Rebuild Tutorial

[tmcase]

Hi TM ok, if your only getting 3/4 wraps and your up to 1.7 ohms, try using something smaller as mold to wrap around, like a 1/16 or 5/64 drill bit. With 30 gauge, you'll get about 10 wraps in before hitting 1.7 ohms. Give that a shot right now your mold is too big

My mold is big because my wick is fat. If I use a smaller mold to get around 10 wraps then I will have to go down to 1ml ecowool and I don't think it would even fit through that small of a coil and wouldn't hold much juice. How does the number of wraps make a difference if you still come out with the same ohms?

 

[super_X_drifter]

How does the number of wraps make a difference if you still come out with the same ohms?

Dunno - great question! But it does. And not just number of wraps, diameter of wraps too. Enter the reason micro coils are taking over the vape world as we know it I think that surface area and hydrology come into play.

 

[tmcase]

Dunno - great question! But it does. And not just number of wraps, diameter of wraps too. Enter the reason micro coils are taking over the vape world as we know it I think that surface area and hydrology come into play.

Well I can try a micro coil with 1ml ecowool if I can get it thru the coil but I'm sure I'm going to be squonking more than vaping.

 

[supertrunker]

hydrology? i'm a Leo.

T

 

[super_X_drifter]

Well I can try a micro coil with 1ml ecowool if I can get it thru the coil but I'm sure I'm going to be squonking more than vaping.

I usually squonk about every 2 or 3 hits. I think it replaced ashing my cig . Small sacrifice for a great vape. Just try not to do it blasting your favorite back road at speed on your bike

TM, if you haven't tried rolled sterile cotton, I highly recommend it. You can put it thru any size coil ya damn well please

I think that small ecowool (I had some) will be difficultly to thread thru a coil - it frays big time. You'll likely smash your setup with a hammer before you ever get it in. Roll with some cotton once ya get past the first 5 or 6 hits, the vape is crazy spectacular

 

[Commie]

How does the number of wraps make a difference if you still come out with the same ohms?

I have a theory, though it's hard to prove.

If you have a lot of *touching* loops, they support each other like a heat sink. If they don't touch, some will heat up more than others. Some parts of your wick will be overheating, and some will be doing nothing. With touching coils, they all heat up evenly.

The diameter of the coil affects air flow. Pdib noticed sometime that if the air is flowing under the coil, you get more throat hit, and if it's over the coil, you get more flavor. Throat hit, effectively, is overheated, slightly burnt juice. Smaller coils get washed over by air better.

Again, it's just a theory, but I'm sticking to it until a better one comes up

 

[oldbroad]

hydrology? i'm a Leo.

T

OMG!!! SO AM I!!!8-o

 

[tmcase]

I usually squonk about every 2 or 3 hits. I think it replaced ashing my cig . Small sacrifice for a great vape. Just try not to do it blasting your favorite back road at speed on your bike

TM, if you haven't tried rolled sterile cotton, I highly recommend it. You can put it thru any size coil ya damn well please

I think that small ecowool (I had some) will be difficultly to thread thru a coil - it frays big time. You'll likely smash your setup with a hammer before you ever get it in. Roll with some cotton once ya get past the first 5 or 6 hits, the vape is crazy spectacular

I like cotton and that was all I used in my Penny because it let the sweetness in my juice come through. But it burns up too fast. Now I'm into ecowool. I get the same great flavor and the sweetness comes through with my Penny but not with the RM2.

I made a micro coil using a drill bit (unknown size) that was about the same size as my 1ml ecowool. If you torch it before you wrap it then the ends don't fray when you cut it. So I cut off the already frayed end and got a nice clean cut and it fit perfectly in my large gauge syringe like the one you used in your tutorial and I didn't have any problem getting it through the coil. Great idea BTW. I never would have gotten it through without that tool tip. I used 10 wraps of 28ga and got 2.7 ohms. 8-o so I took off 3 wraps and got 1.6 ohms. Perfect. I'm getting much better vapor now but not much flavor. It may just need breaking in. If after vaping it for awhile and the flavor still isn't there then I'll try the cotton braid that I was using in the Penny.

Oh, I should add that I can't get the air hole pointing up no matter what I do. I tried putting a second oring in between the base of the RM2 and the cap but I had to clamp the base to get the air hole up. If I didn't clamp the base then the base turned and the coil wasn't up anymore so now I have the air hole almost at the bottom and it seems to be working fine and not harsh. Weird.

Ecowool rocks! Thank you Jack. I'm using 3mm in my RSST tank and the vapor and flavor is great.

 

[ukeman]

I've subscribed to a theory a while ago...

- when the Vapage bf came out and i was using "hybrid" atomizers; both for dripping a la HH357, and for b/f's ...the Vapage "new spec" coil bf atomizers which were similar to the Aero (mass made hybrid similar to the 357 coil) which is lots of wraps very close even touching... of course in that tiny 510 sized barrel with a ceramic cup and some of that steel wool type filling.

What you got was better flavor and great vapor too...
Someone posited that the multi coil wrap was a longer surface for the juice to evaporate on... = micro coil?
I guess so; props to Super X for bringing this back to life for RDA's...

just made an 8wrap 28g using XS116 with a needle in the sleeve, to stabilize coil = .95 Ohms. see photo RM2

I also made a 1.5 ohm micro for my Penelope too!

 

[tmcase]

I have a theory, though it's hard to prove.

If you have a lot of *touching* loops, they support each other like a heat sink. If they don't touch, some will heat up more than others. Some parts of your wick will be overheating, and some will be doing nothing. With touching coils, they all heat up evenly.

The diameter of the coil affects air flow. Pdib noticed sometime that if the air is flowing under the coil, you get more throat hit, and if it's over the coil, you get more flavor. Throat hit, effectively, is overheated, slightly burnt juice. Smaller coils get washed over by air better.

Again, it's just a theory, but I'm sticking to it until a better one comes up

It makes sense sorta. What I don't understand is with mesh wicks you can't have any coils touching or you'll get hot spots. Why then is it different for silica or other fabric type wicks?

 

[tmcase]

I've subscribed to a theory a while ago...

- when the Vapage bf came out and i was using "hybrid" atomizers; both for dripping a la HH357, and for b/f's ...the Vapage "new spec" coil bf atomizers which were similar to the Aero (mass made hybrid similar to the 357 coil) which is lots of wraps very close even touching... of course in that tiny 510 sized barrel with a ceramic cup and some of that steel wool type filling.

What you got was better flavor and great vapor too...
Someone posited that the multi coil wrap was a longer surface for the juice to evaporate on... = micro coil?
I guess so; props to Super X for bringing this back to life for RDA's...

just made an 8wrap 28g using XS116 with a needle in the sleeve, to stabilize coil = .95 Ohms. see photo RM2

I also made a 1.5 ohm micro for my Penelope too!

Is that XS116 similiar to ecowool or Nextel? I did 7 wraps and got 1.6 ohms.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Hey TM, if you pull off your drip tip and look down into the RM2, is the airhole in front of or close to in front of your coil? If not, it needs to be

Also, do you adjust your hitting style so the airhole points up or close to up when vaping? If not, the juice will run down and obstruct the airhole. That will squelch a good vape pretty quickly too

 

[tmcase]

Hey TM, if you pull off your drip tip and look down into the RM2, is the airhole on front of or close to in front of your coil? If not, it needs to be

Also, do you adjust your hitting style so the airhole points up or close to up when vaping? If not, the juice will run down and obstruct the airhole. That will squelch a good vape pretty quickly too

The air hole is pointing at the bottom of my coil when I'm taking a drag. In other words it is pointing towards my body. I know this is wrong but I can't get the air hole to point up when taking a drag.

 

[gbacon]

The air hole is pointing at the bottom of my coil when I'm taking a drag. In other words it is pointing towards my body. I know this is wrong but I can't get the air hole to point up when taking a drag.

you need to put an O ring under the rba it will let you adjust the air hole position and will also seal it.

 

[tmcase]

you need to put an O ring under the rba it will let you adjust the air hole position and will also seal it.

I tried that. See above. I maybe need a different size oring.

 

[ukeman]

Is that XS116 similiar to ecowool or Nextel? I did 7 wraps and got 1.6 ohms.

yeah its a silica nextel as much as i know about the terms... sleeve of woven silica... i like it a lot. kidneypuncher.com has it.
As far as wraps, i was expecting more ohms, but happy with close to 1.0 ohms...
Before I was getting .8 ohms with 4 wraps... dunno

 

[tmcase]

yeah its a silica nextel as much as i know about the terms... sleeve of woven silica... i like it a lot. kidneypuncher.com has it.
As far as wraps, i was expecting more ohms, but happy with close to 1.0 ohms...
Before I was getting .8 ohms with 4 wraps... dunno

I have some nextel also but haven't tried it in the RM2. I tried it in the RSST tank but the ecowool tasted better. I'll try it in the RM2 later. Thanks.

 

[super_X_drifter]

TM, you can rob an oring from a spare REO grand bottle cap you want to stretch it good so it fits completely around the outside of the 510 connection in the catch cup and may have to screw the base down pretty tight. That's exactly what I have done to line mine up and eliminate any leaks thru the 510 conn.

Either that, or adjust your grip so you are pointing it close to up when hitting

Also, did you say the airhole itself is right in front of your coil?

 

[tmcase]

TM, you can rob an oring from a spare REO grand bottle cap you want to stretch it good so it fits completely around the outside of the 510 connection in the catch cup and may have to screw the base down pretty tight. That's exactly what I have done to line mine up and eliminate any leaks thru the 510 conn.

Either that, or adjust your grip so you are pointing it close to up when hitting

Also, did you say the airhole itself is right in front of your coil?

Yeah, I remember reading that in your tutorial but I don't have a spare cap. I'll have to get one. It's doing ok so far, no leaks and I think the flavor is getting a little better.

The air hole is in front on one end of the coil/wick.

 

[tmcase]

Ok, I may have solved the oring problem. I found a spare fat oring that fit around the 510 connector in the catch cup but the air hole still didn't point up so I took the thin oring that comes with the RM2 and put it between the base of the RM2 and the cap and now I have the air hole pointing up. Look down from the top in the position that I hold the Woodvil when I take a drag the coil is horizontal and the air hole is pointing up. Is this how it should be? I'm getting better vapor now and it isn't harsh but the flavor still is quite there.