Scalping Vape gear on ECF needs to stop

[denali_41]

Kinda getting personal there, don't ya think? People shouldn't be allowed to comment on sale threads, but you should be allowed to say that stuff? Double standard much?

What's a "duche"?

had you or anybody else asking what a "Duche" is ,bothered to read the other comments ?? ,you'd know the answer and wouldn't be asking un-educated question


at this point,i think the OP and anybody else starting this type threads should be banned ! or least given an infraction

 

[Ezkill]

Good idea...lets ban anyone that doesn't share your jaded opinion.

 

[arth_d]

If you dont like the prices dont buy them. Jump on a list and find out how to get the products elsewhere. People love to winge.

 

[Modnar]

I dont really see the problem.

I wouldnt mind buying an item thats a bit overpriced if it means that i can get it right away and not have to wait for months

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[LongHaul]

That store has things like "overhead" to deal with. (Running a business costs money) Classified sellers have no such costs to manage. All their profit goes directly into their pocket. Not a valid thing to compare.

No it's not much different as they charge 120.00 for a silver Silver Bullet and a colored one will cost 10 bucks more because of the powder coating. It's a out right lie the same as the peeps on the forum the real difference is here you have the option to go look something up and compare the prices there standing in front of somebody that's lieing to you it's a bit harder when these are the people your supposed to be trusting your vaping future with.

Here though I really don't understand why your going after the seller when you should harass the heck out of people that buy the stuff at the overinflated prices and the prices will drop. Guaranteed, they have money in it and if they even want it back they will come down and without customers the scalpels will go play somewhere else. As for the integrity of the scalpers........the quality of the individual is clearly marked and self written in the price and treatment of the .... after it gets hurt. If that's the case.


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[Racehorse]

Many of these items will be the beanie babies and cabbage patch dolls of yesterday-------they also commanded huge prices.

 

[TommyGunBC]

Good idea...lets ban anyone that doesn't share your jaded opinion.

Since you own some elusive vape gear you should see the point I'm trying to make , if someone is just buying up Katanas ,Zenesis and GG's not to use but just to sell for a huge profit I feel it shouldn't be allowed in the classifieds on a regular basis they are just scalpers ! ever wanted to go your favorite band and couldn't get tickets 1 min after they went on sale then seeing some jackass selling them for 4 X the retail price just isn't right

 

[TommyGunBC]

also if I don't like the price I won't buy it ! but , with Zenesis mods Zen (Mike) has clearly stated he is against the sale of his products for a increased price over retail and that should be kept as he is a forum supplier and contributes $ to the ECF but his wishes are ignored . Yes if you have limited run item have at it sell it for whatever price you'd like but if it will be readily available in the near future don't gouge people so hard , but each to their own Karma will catch up with these scalpers one day

 

[Ezkill]

Since you own some elusive vape gear you should see the point I'm trying to make , if someone is just buying up Katanas ,Zenesis and GG's not to use but just to sell for a huge profit I feel it shouldn't be allowed in the classifieds on a regular basis they are just scalpers ! ever wanted to go your favorite band and couldn't get tickets 1 min after they went on sale then seeing some jackass selling them for 4 X the retail price just isn't right

My comment was addressed to the poster above me that said the person that started this thread, you, should be banned or reprimanded. I'm in total agreement with your stance on the classifieds.

Perhaps I should have quoted Denali to avoid confusion.

 

[AutumnWolf]

To me its just sad that there are people who think its ok to price gouge. How many of us got screwed when we first started vaping by crooks just out to take advantage of people and make a buck (or two or a hundred)? When we found ECF we all learned about those guys and stayed away and were able to warn others about them too. And now here some people are doing the same thing. Shame on you!

In my opinion, buyers just need to beware and do their homework. You can easily find out if someone is charging too much for something. If no one pays their inflated prices, they will have to lower them.

Just my

 

[TommyGunBC]

had you or anybody else asking what a "Duche" is ,bothered to read the other comments ?? ,you'd know the answer and wouldn't be asking un-educated question


at this point,i think the OP and anybody else starting this type threads should be banned ! or least given an infraction

Why is that are you a scalping member and want your rights protected ?? I'm all for the free market but in a community based site such as ECF people just buying and selling for profit over and over shouldn't be allowed to do so .

If you bought some gear and it isn't for you why not sell it for what you paid for it , if it is a bit rare ok a slight markup is expected but 200% .... !

Rule #6 in the classified rules states :

We have expressed on numerous occasions we will not be the "Price Police" but if the price is obviously inflated in an attempt to profit from your sale, the thread will be closed and consequences will follow.

 

[Ezkill]

This board is an interesting one. Interesting in a good way. There is a sense of community here that's really hard to find on any other boards. I'm a member of a few boards and this one is rather special, people just treat each other well here and are always extremely helpful. That's why I take exception with the professional re-sellers.

I don't know the typical Zen scalpers as well as I know the typical GG scalpers but I'm sure it's largely the same situation. I won't mention names as it's not relevant but there are certainly a few and I've been hand slapped for calling them out. Before the last batch of GGTS's was due to arrive a guy sold of 4 of them on the classifieds at double the retail price within a few days. Then he comes to the CoV forum and says "Hey guys what day is the pre-order?". That kind of thing really irritates me. You have a whole bunch of people that have been waiting months to buy one for personal use and someone just cleared out all of their stock just so they can buy more and sell those at inflated prices as well. This is a bad situation for everyone and goes completely against what the guy making them wants to do. Guys like Imeo and Zen could charge a lot more and they would sell out every time, but they don't. They keep the prices as low as possible so more people can enjoy their stuff. The down side to doing that is it allows for the profiteers to come in and make a quick buck.

Same guy that has all of 32 posts in the last 2 years just popped into Imeo's board to ask when the proteus pre-sale was going to happen. I assume you don't get post count for the classifieds because he's got a much higher classified rating then post count. He only leaves the classifieds to find out when the next pre-order of the next sought after item is so he can turn a quick buck.

I know which listing was the catalyst for the this thread and I can't agree more. So we have a rule that says items sold in an attempt for profit will be closed and consequences will follow. When someone buys one of the most sought after items and two days later lists it on the classifieds for literally over double the price, how is that not profiteering? Even the description in the add thumbs it's nose at rule #6. I'm paraphrasing and filling in the blanks but saying something like ... This is hard to get, there is no list, it sold out fast, you will never get one if you try, but you can buy it here for only double the retail price.

What do situations like that add to this otherwise great board? Nothing.

 

[R53_Dave]

had you or anybody else asking what a "Duche" is ,bothered to read the other comments ?? ,you'd know the answer and wouldn't be asking un-educated question


at this point,i think the OP and anybody else starting this type threads should be banned ! or least given an infraction

Uh, I believe the word you're looking for is DOUCHE! So it wasn't an UNEDUCATED question in the least. It was hard to read the other comments because they were not formed very well. I'm sorry, english is obviously not your native language.

Yeah, BAN people for having a difference of opinion! That's not socialist at all!

Most of us here know how to get the devices without buying them from these bottom feeders. That's not the point. The point is ECF should be a safe place for people who just quit smoking to learn about vaping, and obtain what they need to stay off the analogs. Instead it turns into another fine example of petty greed perpetrated by petty little people. Bravo!

ECF classifieds are a fertile hunting ground for the morally bankrupt. I say let the hunter be the hunted as well! Turnabout is fair play.

 

[Roxxette]

Some son of a ..... is selling a zattyu for 300 bucks and was only used 1 time he say he was waiting for 4 months to get one but its selling it the day he got it and claims that "who knows when they are going to be available" i guess Mike dont update hes thread anymore? I doubt it

So you wait hard (4months) to get these item, probably see some in the classifieds and get ..... slapped with the price but now you decide its not for you and sell it for 300 dollars because is not available atm.

Yeah thats a great community and whe should support that.....

 

[TommyGunBC]

I sold my GGTS first run with a AVS a year and a half ago for what I paid for it along with a GG transformer.

now highly sought after collectors items to some for what a metal tube that holds batteries I now know I could have soaked someone for probably

$1000 dollars for each as they are rare, but I wasn't using them and someone else might enjoy them more than I so they

were sold for below retail as they were used and needing some buffing etc.

 

[R53_Dave]

I couldn't count the number of adds I've seen that I just shook my head, thought, "Yeah, sure", closed it and moved on. I respect their right to ask for a price as much as I respect my mother for not raising a fool.

No Price Police - please.

Agreed! I say treat it like street ball. Let the players police themselves. You seldom see fist fights in pickup games because everyone is there for the right reasons. Those that are not are flushed out pretty quickly.

 

[DPLongo22]

.........on the left hand side!

that's the one!

 

[martinc]

Nah OP,you got it all wrong...

There are only enthousiastic insecured bunch of people that haord stuff out of fear of running out (backups for backups).

Then they realise its mortgage time and they have no money left,so they sell some with a markup to be able to buy groceries and get the kids teeth fixed.

Problem is,being hoarders,it repeats every month.

Over and over.

Not their fault.

I myself sold a few high priced GGs but they were all pimped out and gold plated,so I dont feel like I ripped anybody off

I was almost bit by the hoarding bug but then had an epiphany and sold everything (still do but I am out of stuff I dont use,thank God I can forget my past mistakes!) and finally settled with a kit that gets my spine-tingling techhead problem as well as my vaping need taken care of.

Love the non-clutter.

I love digressing.

And yeah,are those people you keep seeing in the classies week after week selling the same type of APVs-slash-atties private resellers (not mentioning the price as its not really an issue,been discussed enough already)....probably.

Should they be dealth with?

Well,its not for us forum dwellers to decide...but having some form of tax applied for them could be rather interesting for ECF purse (but for how long before they get their .... and tats and go elsewhere)!

Interesting read these threads,always the same scheme...offended calling for justice,culprits defending themselves by pointing fingers

 

[440BB]

I think that in order to protect newer members of the vaping community, ECF should require that the retail price of the item be posted in every classified ad over a certain amount, say $50.

If the seller overstates the retail price, no classified sales for 90 days. Second time, no more classifieds.

If someone wants to pay a big premium for something they really want, at least they'll know that's what they're doing.

 

[18SixFifty]

I have a real easy solution. Stop buying from scalpers and they will go out of business.