Scalping Vape gear on ECF needs to stop

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LongHaul

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The buyer sets the price, simple as that if you think it's too high don't buy it then or if you want to push the issue then contact the seller about limiting on a per customer basis


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Actually, yes. It is a law where I live that taxes be collected and paid for sales of goods, EVEN AT A GARAGE SALE. Is it done? Is it enforced? Nope. But when my folks died I had a house full of stuff so I did indeed follow the law and get a resale license. I set up on ebay, sold a LOT of stuff, made a lot of money and paid my taxes.

But then again I value my nursing license and don't need to break the law to make a profit and risk losing my real means of livelihood. I do realize that not all people are above board, but that is just me.

So what are we arguing here? That they're price gouging or they're not paying their taxes? I suppose ECF could require a copy of their Income Tax return every year......
 

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So what are we arguing here? That they're price gouging or they're not paying their taxes? I suppose ECF could require a copy of their Income Tax return every year......

You know someplace somewhere some left wing loon just passed to the nObama camp as a possible source of tax money to pay for more failed policy.


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So what are we arguing here? That they're price gouging or they're not paying their taxes? I suppose ECF could require a copy of their Income Tax return every year......

Not at all. As you know, that would be ridiculous. But if someone is price gouging, is doing it regularly, and are making money in a community without paying their taxes, well, the tax collectors might be really interested in that. I do not know if ECF requires vendors to supply them a copy of their resale license or not. I really don't care. I know the antique dealer who I dealt with over my mother's antique store items did, but I already had one because I CHOSE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. I didn't need a damn audit on my taxes over it.

If someone is selling it for what they paid and merely recouping cost, no taxes would be due would they? And so there it is.
 

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If they are not the price police, then why cant the sellers be called out on their high prices? We are allowed to say what a great price something is, but can not say that its a ripoff. Let the public deal with the scalpers. I have no issues with people marking stuff up that is hard to get. Some people wait up all night to be the first to get an item. Ill pay more for an item like that. Lot less hassle. But the common $50 item that someone is selling for $100, they should be called out with a link as to where to get for $50.

If you are asking me then you are preaching to the choir. I agree that the scalpers should be called out. On the other hand, having been in thier shoes, I understand the rules about not calling them out in the classy thread. This prevents food fights from breaking out that often end in disciplinary action for parties other than the scalper.
 

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If you are asking me then you are preaching to the choir. I agree that the scalpers should be called out. On the other hand, having been in thier shoes, I understand the rules about not calling them out in the classy thread. This prevents food fights from breaking out that often end in disciplinary action for parties other than the scalper.


I used your quote because you brought up ECFs policy about them not being the price police. I was just commenting on that. Not asking you directly. As you stated, I understand why its not allowed as well. What I dont understand is why they allow people saying what a great price it is. Along with the constant bumping of adds. You just get a few people in some adds basically chatting away to keep an add on the top. This has to be one of the few places where something in the classies can be a day old and have 6 pages to it.
 

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Socialist thinking at its finest.

Another person with no concept of what "Socialist thinking" is.

If you're so into freedom this and freedom that, why are we not free to question people on their price in their threads? HUH?
Forced silence rule = Freedom? I'm all for people charging whatever they want! I'm also for being able to question them on it! That's freedom, Sir!

The same place the buyer should "Beware" is the same place the seller should "Beware" too.

When did being a decent person and having accountability for your actions become a socialist ideal?
 
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The IRS doesn't give a fat rat's tail if they're a legitimate business, licensed or otherwise, so long as they're paying their taxes. Not a very good analogy.

They sure do care if you are not reporting profits and paying taxes on that profit...if it happens to come to their attention ;) The state also cares if you fail to pay sales tax (in the cases of states with sales tax). Small potatoes aren't typically noticed, but illegal behavior is no less illegal if no one happens to notice.

Indiana sales tax law as it applies to garage sales:

IV. GARAGE SALES, RUMMAGE SALES, or SIMILAR TYPE SALES
(nonauction sales)
A garage sale, rummage sale, or similar sale that meets all the following conditions is
a casual sale and therefore the items sold are not subject to sales tax, or use tax:
1. The sale must be at the residence of the owner of the tangible personal
property;
2. The sale must be conducted by the owner or the immediate family of the
owner of the property being sold;
3. The tangible personal property must not have been acquired by the owner
for the purpose of resale;

4. All sales or use tax due on the original acquisition of the property must have
been paid by the owner; and
5. The sales must be held on an infrequent basis.

So your neighbors running a weekly garage sale would likely be breaking the law in Indiana due to section 5.
 

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I'm only gonna post my 2 cents and go away, no debating, I dont really care if you agree or disagree. But buying hard to get items and selling them at a profit is the way the world turns! I'm in the guitar business and thats exactly what people do there too!! When I purchase a guitar that is hard to get, hard to find, or rare I sell it for more then I paid(just like any collector)....!!! What makes this any different? With ecig paraphernalia some of these said products you only have a 30 min window(or less sometimes) and that window presents itself at 3a.m. in some cases. So if you do the leg work to achieve one of these items, I think you earned the right to sell it at what ever price you desire. If its too high, no one will pay it... that should be the deciding factor. I think if you don't like the price stop whining and Move on!!!

Taxes:rolleyes:(rolling eyes)

oh and P.s. I dont sell in the classy's and I've only purchased twice and given away some items!(in case you were wondering if I'm just a scalper protecting my profits)
 
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I'm only gonna post my 2 cents and go away, no debating, I dont really care if you agree or disagree. But buying hard to get items and selling them at a profit is the way the world turns! I'm in the guitar business and thats exactly what people do there too!! When I purchase a guitar that is hard to get, hard to find, or rare I sell it for more then I paid(just like any collector)....!!! What makes this any different? With ecig paraphernalia some of these said products you only have a 30 min window(or less sometimes) and that window presents itself at 3a.m. in some cases. So if you do the leg work to achieve one of these items, I think you earned the right to sell it at what ever price you desire. If its too high, no one will pay it... that should be the deciding factor. I think if you don't like the price stop whining and Move on!!!

Amen & "What he said!"
 

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Personally, when I sell stuff, I usually price it somewhere in the area of 50% of new (with one exception that I can think of). And that's easy enough to verify if anyone wishes. But that's just MY freedom. I couldn't care less if someone asked for $200,000 for a Twist. That's THEIR freedom. If someone pays it, hats off to that seller, as far as I'm concerned.

And now I depart (almost certainly to the delight of at least a few).

Good night, all.
 

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Another person with no concept of what "Socialist thinking" is.

If you're so into freedom this and freedom that, why are we not free to question people on their price in their threads? HUH?
Forced silence rule = Freedom? I'm all for people charging whatever they want! I'm also for being able to question them on it! That's freedom, Sir!

The same place the buyer should "Beware" is the same place the seller should "Beware" too.

When did being a decent person and having accountability for your actions become a socialist ideal?
Well said my friend....
 
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