school banned ecigs

[optsmk]

I can't really argue with the schools ban on ecigs. They are responsible for all of the students that attend the school. Age is not a factor at all, its the risk of letting some kids vape and others not. If a parent were to find out that there child was exposed to second hand vaping, they would sue the school.

However, the reality is second hand vape is really not harmful at all. a student can inhale more cancer causing carcinogens just having mommy drive them to school and waiting in that long line of students being dropped off in front of the school, inhaling all the exhaust fumes from all the cars.
And if the parents and faculty actually saw the amount of illegal drugs that were passed around from student to student, it would make their eyes roll back in their heads... Permanently!

 

[zapped]

It does matter, I for one, agree with the school's policy. Smoking/vaping should not be allowed on school grounds...

1. There are minors on campus.
2. You should abide by the school's smoking/vaping policy.
3. Your teachers don't smoke in class, why should you be allowed to vape.
4. You're still in High School. Albeit you are 18, you are in school.

Don't get me wrong, you are an adult by age standards. However, you are in a public place with minors.

TT69 out...

I agree with everything you said except the part about being an adult at 18.

You arent an adult until youre living on your own and paying rent. Turning 18 gives people some rights that are accorded to adults but the rest need to be earned.

Im 44 and in college and we arent allowed to vape in class because its a distraction to other students.

Im also usually a pretty strong advocate of vaping openly but its the kind of entitled attitude from the OP that is going to get vaping banned and give the rest of us a bad name.

 

[CommaHolly]

I agree with everything you said except the part about being an adult at 18.

You arent an adult until youre living on your own and paying rent. Turning 18 gives people some rights that are accorded to adults but the rest need to be earned.

Im 44 and in college and we arent allowed to vape in class because its a distraction to other students.

Im also usually a pretty strong advocate of vaping openly but its the kind of entitled attitude from the OP that is going to get vaping banned and give the rest of us a bad name.

OTOH, the OP is young,,,,,,,,,

we all sounded like that at 18

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

I agree with everything you said except the part about being an adult at 18.

You arent an adult until youre living on your own and paying rent. Turning 18 gives people some rights that are accorded to adults but the rest need to be earned.

Im 44 and in college and we arent allowed to vape in class because its a distraction to other students.

Im also usually a pretty strong advocate of vaping openly but its the kind of entitled attitude from the OP that is going to get vaping banned and give the rest of us a bad name.

Whatever one's perception of being an "actual" adult is - and yes, what you're listing is just your perception - legally, he is an adult at 18 and legally, he can purchase and use nicotine at this age.

That's an aside, obviously school rules are school rules and I'm 100% for nic restriction in high school. However, I disagree with your personal assessment (you're not an adult until you have a job, etc.). There will never be one Great Big Judge to decide who "really is" or "isn't really" an adult at 18, 28 or 58. There are only legalities.

You say:

Turning 18 gives people some rights that are accorded to adults but the rest need to be earned.

Not sure what "the rest" is that you're referring to, but yes, it is the OP's right, without "earning it," to use nicotine.

And yes, the OP and anyone else is legally able to utilize nicotine -- within area restrictions -- at 18.

It doesn't matter if he's still playing with Transformers toys, he's 18, period.

 

[WattWick]

... guess it's another one of those threads looking for support that will completely backfire... for good reasons.

I am under the impression that most of us started to vape to get off the ciggies - not to be the cool kid. I can't think of any reason why I should support an 18-year-olds "right" to vape in class.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

I am under the impression that most of us started to vape to get off the ciggies - not to be the cool kid. I can't think of any reason why I should support an 18-year-olds "right" to vape in class.

Well, you would support it or not support it based on the environment he's asking about and other factors, but not age.

You would support or not support it if he were 40 and asking the same question (there are many 40-year-olds in college).

I disagree that anyone should be allowed to vape in school (students OR teachers, at any age) but I don't hold the fact that the OP is "only" 18 against him. And I'm feeling a lot of that in this thread. "That whippersnapper, who does he think he is?"

I'm not so sure that's fair. Rights are rights.

 

[Mark Anthony]

I have to agree with the majority here thinking that it should be banned in high schools because not everyone is 18.... But I also want to commend you for being a responsible 18 year old and not harming your body or those around you with analogs. Keep on vaping!!

 

[Raycecar]

People like you irritate me. A lot of people have no common sense.
Just because YOU are 18, doesn't mean everyone else is. It's a HIGHSCHOOL.
You shouldn't be using your PV in class anyways, It's a distraction. It's school. I wouldn't be surprised if you got suspended.
You don't own the school. You go by their rules.

 

[bluecat]

Whatever one's perception of being an "actual" adult is - and yes, what you're listing is just your perception - legally, he is an adult at 18 and legally, he can purchase and use nicotine at this age.

That's an aside, obviously school rules are school rules and I'm 100% for nic restriction in high school. However, I disagree with your personal assessment (you're not an adult until you have a job, etc.). There will never be one Great Big Judge to decide who "really is" or "isn't really" an adult at 18, 28 or 58. There are only legalities.

You say: Not sure what "the rest" is that you're referring to, but yes, it is the OP's right, without "earning it," to use nicotine.

And yes, the OP and anyone else is legally able to utilize nicotine -- within area restrictions -- at 18.

It doesn't matter if he's still playing with Transformers toys, he's 18, period.

Actually things are changing or trying to. Some states have a 19 age limit to buy smokes (Utah Alaska Alabama and NJ). Some are now trying to make it 21.

Lawmakers seek to raise Utah smoking age to 21 | The Salt Lake Tribune

 

[CommaHolly]

Actually things are changing or trying to. Some states have a 19 age limit to buy smokes (Utah Alaska Alabama and NJ). Some are now trying to make it 21.

Lawmakers seek to raise Utah smoking age to 21 | The Salt Lake Tribune

you can give your life for your country, but you can't buy nicotine.

Nice.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Actually things are changing or trying to. Some states have a 19 age limit to buy smokes (Utah Alaska Alabama and NJ). Some are now trying to make it 21.

Lawmakers seek to raise Utah smoking age to 21 | The Salt Lake Tribune

Then if the OP is in Utah, Alaska, Alabama or NJ, I am wrong about him being a legal adult. He will be one in a year or less, in that case, but currently is not one.

That, for the less informed, IS a reasonable, logical and fact-backed way to correct someone. Thank you for this info.

 

[bluecat]

you can give your life for your country, but you can't buy nicotine.

Nice.

I wrote it down a little differently and realized I shouldn't say stuff like that. Unbelievably amazing what the idiots we have in office will do. We need a river to run through DC and clean the stables out.

 

[UntamedRose]

Zapped...... Do i need to get a ruler?

 

[CommaHolly]

I wrote it down a little differently and realized I shouldn't say stuff like that. Unbelievably amazing what the idiots we have in office will do. We need a river to run through DC and clean the stables out.

I don't think it has anything to do with party,,,,,,,,,,DC has dems in control and those other states appear to be Republican controlled.

it's a fear response, plain and simple,,,,,,,,,,,and it affects both parties the same, if you ask me,,,,,,,,

 

[The Dingo]

That's a good point. In fact, I wasn't even 18 until three months AFTER I graduated high school.

Yup. I didn't turn 18 until the END of my first semester at college...SIX months after I graduated high school. My high school also had a smoking section for students. You'da found me there quite often. My, how times have changed.

 

[bluecat]

Then if the OP is in Utah, Alaska, Alabama or NJ, I am wrong about him being a legal adult. He will be one in a year or less, in that case, but currently is not one.

It wasn't about wrong or right... just that the current war on tobacco is hitting new heights..

I personally don't care that a high school kid whether 14, 18 or heck if he/she was 32 can't vape in class. It just seems silly that someone would whine about it. I was 18 in high school and at 18 was legally able to purchase alcohol. I didn't pop open a brew in class and start drinking away. I had respect for my teachers and fellow classmates.

I waited till after school and then had the brew with some others at a bar to do some homework and shoot pool. Besides you ticked one of the teachers off you got slammed to the floor. Then you got slammed again when you got home for embarrassing your parents.

The things these kids feel they are entitled to today is unreal.

 

[zapped]

Zapped...... Do i need to get a ruler?

Nope, just not gonna allow someone else to attempt to chide me because I dont agree with their political or parenting views.

If he is in fact an adult why are some people still babying him?

I AM an adult paying my own rent and supporting a family (that includes an 18 year old still living at home) and Im not allowed to vape in college classes. Why should high school be any different?

 

[CommaHolly]

I think there's a difference between being an adult LEGALLY,,,,,,,,,,,and being one EMOTIONALLY.

Some kids are just ready sooner than others.

but they have to put a number on it SOMEWHERE.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Nope, just not gonna allow someone else to attempt to chide me because I dont agree with their political or parenting views.

If he is in fact an adult why are some people still babying him?

I AM an adult paying my own rent and supporting a family (that includes an 18 year old still living at home) and Im not allowed to vape in college classes. Why should high school be any different?

Erm. How on earth was "legal age is legal age" a "political" view?

As for parenting views, how does one's parenting view override law? I didn't ask you to change the way you parent, where on earth does that come in?

As for the third part, I have stated many times in this thread that I do NOT think people should be allowed to use nic products in school.

I'm not sure exactly whom you're arguing with. But thanks for clarifying anyway, I guess.

 

[JonnyB88]

you can give your life for your country, but you can't buy nicotine.

Nice.

For the first 2.5 years I was in the service, I hated hearing that from underage civilians in regards to buying alcohol. I would retort with, "I'm underage and actually IN the military. And I agree with you. When you decide to join up, then you have the right to make that complaint."

Anyhoo, OP, people's opinions have been laid out in this thread already, but I want to use an analogy.

When I was in high school (obviously, not THAT long ago), we weren't allowed to use our cell phones at all during the school day.
Yet, none of us felt the need to say, "Hey, this isn't hurting anyone. I'm not bothering anybody. As long as I have it on silent, then what's the harm?"
None of the seniors that were 18 and legal adults considered it their "right" to text in class.
No, instead, the rules were abided by.

How is vaping any different when you're in a place with set policies?