school banned ecigs

[WattWick]

Well, you would support it or not support it based on the environment he's asking about and other factors, but not age.

You would support or not support it if he were 40 and asking the same question (there are many 40-year-olds in college).

I disagree that anyone should be allowed to vape in school (students OR teachers, at any age) but I don't hold the fact that the OP is "only" 18 against him. And I'm feeling a lot of that in this thread. "That whippersnapper, who does he think he is?"

I'm not so sure that's fair. Rights are rights.

I just can't help it. I'm with the whippersnapper crowd.

I know it's arrogant, but I believe the "need" to vape in class has very little to do with why most of us vape. Clearly whippersnappering.

 

[optsmk]

Nope, just not gonna allow someone else to attempt to chide me because I dont agree with their political or parenting views.

If he is in fact an adult why are some people still babying him?

I AM an adult paying my own rent and supporting a family (that includes an 18 year old still living at home) and Im not allowed to vape in college classes. Why should high school be any different?

It's not that people are babying him. it's just that he is in a public school where others are responsible for him and everyone else that goes to that school. I can almost guarantee that if they allowed vaping in class, there would be a big lawsuit on their hands. One that they could not afford nor want to deal with.
If he is 18, then he has all the right to purchase any nicotine products he likes and use them as he see's fit. Just in in class at school.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

It's not that people are babying him. it's just that he is in a public school where others are responsible for him and everyone else that goes to that school. I can almost guarantee that if they allowed vaping in class, there would be a big lawsuit on their hands. One that they could not afford nor want to deal with.
If he is 18, then he has all the right to purchase any nicotine products he likes and use them as he see's fit. Just in in class at school.

Well, the original post definitely didn't sound like he "needed" to vape or was standing up to fight for his rights or anything else like that. He simply stated that the rule "confused" him.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

It's not that people are babying him. it's just that he is in a public school where others are responsible for him and everyone else that goes to that school. I can almost guarantee that if they allowed vaping in class, there would be a big lawsuit on their hands. One that they could not afford nor want to deal with.
If he is 18, then he has all the right to purchase any nicotine products he likes and use them as he see's fit. Just in in class at school.

Agree. Who's "babying" him? Are we babying each other when we go on and on passionately about how we SHOULD be able to vape in hospitals, etc...other areas where the establishment has its own rules, just like a school? And all the sympathetic pile-ons and tears about how "they" are "all" just trying to take away our rights and it's a big conspiracy and that's so wrong and so unfair dammit and blah-blah, ad-10 pages-worth-of-posts?

It's definitely the age thing here, I'm thinkin'.

 

[Jman8]

I think any nation on this planet that has people under 18 within its borders ought to forbid vaping by all its citizens. Won't anyone think of the extraordinary harm we are causing these kids? I shed a tear each time someone vapes within 10 miles of them. How dare you!!

 

[The Dingo]

Apparently, in "his location," people are extraordinarily rude.

But let's not forget he DID bid me a good day.

That for shoot sure made up for the pointless passive-aggressive jab. (In "my location," we're pretty big on sarcasm.)

I happen to be somewhat nearby to the OP's location...nope, can't blame his location. But, then again, I'm originally from NJ so I might not be the best judge of unacceptable rudeness.

You probably can, however, blame his/her rudeness on the fact that s/he most likely lives under a bridge, or s/he posted here to get some support to no avail.

 

[DC2]

C'mon man. It's high school.... You should be used to this by now.

But seriously......you shouldn't be allowed to vape at high school, even if it IS 0mg. The schools are held much more responsible for the students. Once you get to college it's a different story, you are responsible for yourself then and you can pretty much do whatever you want to.

Well, when you get to college you can do pretty much whatever you want to...

Except that an increasing number of colleges are banning smoking ANYWHERE on campus.
And most of them are starting to include electronic cigarettes in that ban.

As vapers, we should never become accepting of such ludicrous actions.
And frankly, smokers should not be accepting of such actions either, because they are almost equally as ludicrous.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

I just can't help it. I'm with the whippersnapper crowd.

I know it's arrogant, but I believe the "need" to vape in class has very little to do with why most of us vape. Clearly whippersnappering.

It would've fully been my reason, personally, had vaping been around at the time. I was well and fully addicted at 15, to the tune of going to the girl's room to smoke quickly between every single class. I could physically feel every minute that it was killing me but I could not stop. I'd have embraced vaping whole-heartedly.

I do see your point, just giving my input. FWIW, no, I would not have thought it was my right to vape in class any more than I'd have thought it was my right to smoke in class. Even if I had been 18 at the time.

 

[optsmk]

Agree. Who's "babying" him? Are we babying each other when we go on and on passionately about how we SHOULD be able to vape in hospitals, etc...other areas where the establishment has its own rules, just like a school? And all the sympathetic pile-ons and tears about how "they" are "all" just trying to take away our rights and it's a big conspiracy and that's so wrong and so unfair dammit and blah-blah, ad-10 pages-worth-of-posts?

It's definitely the age thing here, I'm thinkin'.

Lol, I couldn't agree more.

 

[Jayvaps]

High Schools have all sorts of rules one must adhere to.

Even the teachers working there must adhere to the rules to work there.

Dont like it? graduate early. Or...dont be a teacher.

I am all for you having the 'right to vape', or do many other things( I am a libertarian). But, you are in HS. It doesnt matter what your age is. Someone above gave a perfect analogy. If you could drink at 18, do you think it would be appropriate(and allowed) to pop open a beer in class?

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

I happen to be somewhat nearby to the OP's location...nope, can't blame his location. But, then again, I'm originally from NJ so I might not be the best judge of unacceptable rudeness.

You probably can, however, blame his/her rudeness on the fact that s/he most likely lives under a bridge, or s/he posted here to get some support to no avail.

"Lives under a bridge," OMG, I will not laugh, I will not laugh, I will not laugh...Okay, too late.

I too am originally from NJ...I got used to people being nice out here (neighbors, store workers, etc.) FAST...I went back to NJ and I still love it, it is still home but, true story, I was literally in tears only 60 minutes within the state line last time I visited there. I was fishing for coins at a toll booth and asked about tokens and the guy literally screamed and swore at me, LOL. When I asked him why there were no tokens, that's when he swore at me...I drove away crying, yes, crying...apparently my NJ skin was completely rubbed off by then...

To this day when I cry about missing NNJ, especially in the fall, my husband wags his finger at me and admonishes, "Don't forget the mean toll booth guy!" and "Don't forget how cashiers used to punish us for not bagging our own groceries fast enough by smooshing our bread underneath the liquid laundry detergent bucket."

When we moved here (to SoCal) I went for a walk with my son and I told my husband when we got back, "You know, EVERYWHERE we went, someone smiled and said hi. Even the KIDS. It was creepy." And my husband goes, "Only someone from New Jersey could think people being nice is creepy." LOL.

To stay even minimally OT...when I lived there, the legal age for buying cigs was 18. I was unaware that they changed it. Interesting.

 

[bluecat]

For the first 2.5 years I was in the service, I hated hearing that from underage civilians in regards to buying alcohol. I would retort with, "I'm underage and actually IN the military. And I agree with you. When you decide to join up, then you have the right to make that complaint."

Anyhoo, OP, people's opinions have been laid out in this thread already, but I want to use an analogy.

When I was in high school (obviously, not THAT long ago), we weren't allowed to use our cell phones at all during the school day.
Yet, none of us felt the need to say, "Hey, this isn't hurting anyone. I'm not bothering anybody. As long as I have it on silent, then what's the harm?"
None of the seniors that were 18 and legal adults considered it their "right" to text in class.
No, instead, the rules were abided by.

How is vaping any different when you're in a place with set policies?

Not sure how long you are out of high school. My daughter is in her sophomore year. They get told to pull out their smartphones now. The teachers would do a lesson and expect the kids to grab on the internet, her freshman year they started that. She had an ipod touch but we got her an iphone.

To answer your question it is not. My guess people log onto a site that sells this stuff and the marketing is you can "smoke" this anywhere. Yes that is what most of the marketing stated when I purchased my little kit 1+ years ago. Little snipet

"Our electronic cartridges produce no real smoke, only water vapor.
Because of this, it is not subject to traditional smoking bans and you can start smoking at all your favorite places again! The office, a restaurant, and more!"

 

[optsmk]

High Schools have all sorts of rules one must adhere to.

Even the teachers working there must adhere to the rules to work there.

Dont like it? graduate early. Or...dont be a teacher.

I am all for you having the 'right to vape', or do many other things( I am a libertarian). But, you are in HS. It doesnt matter what your age is. Someone above gave a perfect analogy. If you could drink at 18, do you think it would be appropriate(and allowed) to pop open a beer in class?

Well, hello fellow Libertarian!

 

[uba egar320]

It would've fully been my reason, personally, had vaping been around at the time. I was well and fully addicted at 15, to the tune of going to the girl's room to smoke quickly between every single class. I could physically feel every minute that it was killing me but I could not stop. I'd have embraced vaping whole-heartedly.

I do see your point, just giving my input. FWIW, no, I would not have thought it was my right to vape in class any more than I'd have thought it was my right to smoke in class. Even if I had been 18 at the time.

I was a smoke-a-holic in HS too..Ecigs would have been a blessing if they were around in the early 90's imo..But it would have been the same deal: Don't get caught!

Problem solved. Seriously though..How hard would it be to vape all freakin day in HS without getting busted? We all used to linger in restrooms so filled with smoke lol..everyone in there was just itching to get busted. Vaping would have been a snap.

 

[JayEatsAirplane]

High Schools have all sorts of rules one must adhere to.

Even the teachers working there must adhere to the rules to work there.

Dont like it? graduate early. Or...dont be a teacher.

I am all for you having the 'right to vape', or do many other things( I am a libertarian). But, you are in HS. It doesnt matter what your age is. Someone above gave a perfect analogy. If you could drink at 18, do you think it would be appropriate(and allowed) to pop open a beer in class?

My high school, didn't matter what your age was, you couldn't smoke anywhere that was considered school campus. That included the downtown area 3 blocks away where people took "off campus" lunch. That was hardly enforced, but it was still a rule. Hell, you couldn't even be in possession of tobacco. 18 or not.

 

[WillyZee]

smoking in class sounds like the fast track to having your B grades turn into D grades ... can't see any teachers giving approval to Vaping in class.

 

[Jayvaps]

Well, hello fellow Libertarian!

Hello back.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Hello back.

I am NOT going to add to this-here convo, I already got blue hell for my assumed "political views" just for saying law is law, LOL.

But...well. Hello.

And that's all I'm sayin'!

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

I was a smoke-a-holic in HS too..Ecigs would have been a blessing if they were around in the early 90's imo..But it would have been the same deal: Don't get caught!

Problem solved. Seriously though..How hard would it be to vape all freakin day in HS without getting busted? We all used to linger in restrooms so filled with smoke lol..everyone in there was just itching to get busted. Vaping would have been a snap.

Oh can I get a "hell yeah..." If vaping had been around for me in HS I'd have been in nic heaven.

Soooooooooooo much easier to hide.

 

[optsmk]

My high school, didn't matter what your age was, you couldn't smoke anywhere that was considered school campus. That included the downtown area 3 blocks away where people took "off campus" lunch. That was hardly enforced, but it was still a rule. Hell, you couldn't even be in possession of tobacco. 18 or not.

Hey, when did you attend high school.