Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

[PLANofMAN]

The labels being removed probably has to do with (edit: the manufacturer's) MAP (Minimum Advertised Pricing) requirements more than something being a factory second. I know there are companies who don't "officially" sell products to fasttech for a variety of reasons. From what I've read, the general consensus of opinion seems to be that those companies don't want to be boycotted by the vendors in America and other countries.

I quote you "Where is the proof"? There is none so it is all speculation.

I've made it quite clear what is speculation, (see the bolded parts of my quote). As for my statement "I know there are companies who don't "officially" sell products to fasttech for a variety of reasons," that is quite clear on the site itself. If something is labeled as "Authentic" it is an authentic product, ordered from the manufacturer or an authorized reseller. This has been confirmed by fasttech staff, and is something that is well known to people who shop on FastTech.
http://www.fasttech.com/category/1411/electronic-cigarettes/?authentic
There are products which have been confirmed as authentic "brand name" products by people doing direct comparisons of the products in question. The simplest explanation is that FastTech cannot advertise the product as official because then they would be required to price it at the manufacturer's minimum allowed pricing. There could be other reasons, and I didn't deny that.

 

[VapieDan]

I've made it quite clear what is speculation, (see the bolded parts of my quote). As for my statement "I know there are companies who don't "officially" sell products to FastTech for a variety of reasons," that is quite clear on the site itself. If something is labeled as "Authentic" it is an authentic product, ordered from the manufacturer or an authorized reseller. This has been confirmed by FastTech staff, and is something that is well known to people who shop on FastTech.
Found 173 authentic at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
There are products which have been confirmed as authentic "brand name" products by people doing direct comparisons of the products in question. The simplest explanation is that FastTech cannot advertise the product as official because then they would be required to price it at the manufacturer's minimum allowed pricing. There could be other reasons, and I didn't deny that.

So after all this we are still back to we just don't know! (sigh) I've had a bad experience with SVD's from them and others seem to report most of the "problem childs" were purchased at FastTech. I believe there may have been revisions to correct problems. Could have been old stock. Who knows? I like FasTech. It is just I have three months shipping involved for the same item kind of makes me wary of ordering mods from them. Returns are just a hassle and the cost of the return itself. OK here is another theory. Did you notice the Sigleli SX20 hit FastTech at the same time as dealers with a huge discount price? Conspiracy theory #999. Manufacturers dump first runs on them cheap to deal with the bugs. Works for me!

 

[PLANofMAN]

It's as good a theory as any I've heard.

 

[Gallant]

yzer I read some where in this thread that you prefer IMR18500 & use them most of the time here is my question:
I bought Efest IMR18500 Chemically Safe Li-ion 3.7V 1100mAh charged it & put it to the test it lasted about 4 hours went through about 3.5ml of e-juice (down to 3.4v) is this normal?

 

[yzer]

I use Efest 1100 mAh IMR 18500 about 70% of the time. One will last me about 6 hours. I vape 2.5 ml per day at 6.5 watts with a 2.0 ohm single coil carto. I run my batteries from 4.2V to 3.2V. I've read several post by people who have noticed that IMR batteries do not perform at full capacity when new. I have seen this too. New IMRs reach full capacity after being charged a few times.

 

[Gallant]

Thanks for the info yzer btw mine is set @ 8watts 2.2 ohm dual coil clearo. I vape 5 to 6 ml a day.
I will see how it goes after few charges.
BTW I got 2 more new batteries
Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh Battery
Panasonic IMR High Drain HYBRID CGR18650CH 3.7V 2250mAh Battery
& Nitecore Intellicharger i4 V2
Charging in progress I will report as soon as I test!

 

[JeremyR]

Higher ohms will last you considerably longer. 2.8 - 3.2 @ 8 watts will probably last 25% longer with the same vape. A 1000 will not last very long at that vaping rate. Stacked 350s at 1.8-2.2 will last you probably 3 times as long @ 8watts. 12hrs+

If you get. 4 hrs on 18500 you'll get 7-8 on 18650, & 12-14 on stacked 18350s . Dual coils do have a higher load on the battery.

 

[TractorWill]

Have you guys seen the Sigelei 20W SIGELEI-20W_Sigelei-20w_LEGEND_SIGELEI Electronic Cigarette -. Looks like the Evic to me

 

[yzer]

Have you guys seen the Sigelei 20W SIGELEI-20W_Sigelei-20w_LEGEND_SIGELEI Electronic Cigarette -. Looks like the Evic to me

Yes, it's an entirely different rig from the Sigelei Zmax series. That power level is of no interest to me. I vape 6.5 watts and don't like anything over 8 watts.

 

[yzer]

In fact, the Sigelei-20W can't operate under the battery voltage. So an APV that can't output under 4.2V won't work for me.

 

[VapieDan]

Yes, it's an entirely different rig from the Sigelei Zmax series. That power level is of no interest to me. I vape 6.5 watts and don't like anything over 8 watts.

We agree on this. I wish to see improvement on quality of vaping in the lower watt/volt range rather than reinventing lightning.

 

[yzer]

Thanks for the info yzer btw mine is set @ 8watts 2.2 ohm dual coil clearo. I vape 5 to 6 ml a day.
I will see how it goes after few charges.
BTW I got 2 more new batteries
Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh Battery
Panasonic IMR High Drain HYBRID CGR18650CH 3.7V 2250mAh Battery
& Nitecore Intellicharger i4 V2
Charging in progress I will report as soon as I test!

Does your Nitecore charge the Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh to 4.2V? I read somewhere that some chargers may terminate the 30A Efest batteries higher than 4.2V.

 

[JeremyR]

Efest soda charger terminates right around 4.15, even left on over night. Added safety and extended battery life. Dont have a 30amp to try but, It's made for efest batteries. Just wanted to throw it out there again.

 

[Gallant]

Does your Nitecore charge the Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh to 4.2V? I read somewhere that some chargers may terminate the 30A Efest batteries higher than 4.2V.

Yes it did!

 

[Gallant]

BTW testing Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh @ 8watts 2.2 BDC clearo went through 5ml of juice so far & it is still @3.6V, vapour production is amazing all what I can say is OMG!

 

[yzer]

Yes it did!

Thanks, that's good to know. I'm looking into buying a couple of more 18650s soon. I have seen purple Efest 18650 30A 2500mAh around, too.

 

[Gallant]

Can I have the link to the 2500mah I have not seen them yet in the Canadian market.

 

[Flush1]

Panasonic NCR18650PF best out there. 2900mah 10amp high drain.

I can vape about 5ml on a dual coil before it hits 3.5/3.6 at 12 watts on a 1.5dc carto

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[69CamaroSS]

Thanks for the info yzer btw mine is set @ 8watts 2.2 ohm dual coil clearo. I vape 5 to 6 ml a day.
I will see how it goes after few charges.
BTW I got 2 more new batteries
Efest 18650 30A 2100mAh Battery
Panasonic IMR High Drain HYBRID CGR18650CH 3.7V 2250mAh Battery
& Nitecore Intellicharger i4 V2

Charging in progress I will report as soon as I test!

The proof. The Zmax V5 has been vaping this stock 1.5ohm dual coil iClear at about 6 watts and *just* dropped as I hit 600 vapes (a full 10 seconds each!) on one charge of the Orbtronic SX30 18650 high Drain 30A hybrid which is (only) rated at 2100mAh. People, that's 6000 seconds total button time!!!

 

[yzer]

Purple Efest 18650 30A 2500mAh is at 101 Vape but out of stock, natch. I'll look into the Panasonic NCR18650PF for sure. With my vaping at 6.5 watts the 10A is more than enough headroom for me. More capacity suits me better.