Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

[thedesbois]

I'm thinking along the same lines as you do. It would be nice if someone more qualified could answer. I'll ask around. Maybe I'll find an organic chemistry specialist.

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[mecocina]

I received my order from pipesandcigars.com...smooth black & gold cavendish, burley london, american dream and big & burley. They all smell nice and different from each other. I did not plan ahead very well. I should have purchased a larger bottle of pg on my last order LOL. At least I'll be able to make one tonight and it will be the cavendish.

I've been experimenting with a blend that is almost where I want it to taste like. If I ever get it almost exactly like it tastes, I'll post it. I will say that it's based on a popular net tobacco juice

 

[Starlyte2]

I've only used cold extraction, which isn't too bad. But this sounds all very interesting. 'Cept as I live in France I don't know where the hell I could get a slow-cooker.
What temperature does it heat to? Then I could use the oven, maybe. It's electric, so quite accurate with temperatures.
tobacco leaf extract, even cold, is great when you get one of those "desires"

 

[Dougiestyle]

I've been vaping my extract for 2 days. It's great. I used a similar method, but it only took a day to concoct a vapable liquid...

Using a fresh cavendish house blend from a local pipe/cigar shop, I weighed 1/2oz.

Put the tobacco into a Bomex beaker (180ml)

Added 60ml PG

Added 30ml PGA

Set on coffee/candle warmer plate for 12hrs with loose cover (I set a piece of copper sheet on top)

Removed from heat and wrapped cheesecloth over the top and poured into another glass container.

Heat until PGA is evaporated.

Placed cottonball in 10ml syringe and poured the extract into the plunger end (plunger removed), then pushed liquid through with syringe plunger.

I mixed this extract @ 20% in a 60/40 20mg batch (accounting for PG flavor base). Vaped immediately.

It tastes fabulous! I still have ~50ml of flavoring and another 1/2oz of tobacco. I think I'm set on flavoring for a while.

Gunks up a coil pretty quick tho. Luckily, I'm using it in a A7 with Nextel ceramic wick. I can dry-fire until wick is white. I use a VW bottomfed box (homemade) @ roughly 10W.

 

[thedesbois]

I've only used cold extraction, which isn't too bad. But this sounds all very interesting. 'Cept as I live in France I don't know where the hell I could get a slow-cooker.
What temperature does it heat to? Then I could use the oven, maybe. It's electric, so quite accurate with temperatures.
Tobacco leaf extract, even cold, is great when you get one of those "desires"

Bonjour!

Voici une partie de la réponse:

At what temperature does a Crock Pot cook on Low and High? - Yahoo! Answers

Le truc serait pour toi d'utiliser une cocotte, certainement très dispo en France. Remplir d'eau et placer ton contenant de liquide à extraire à l'intérieur et remettre le couvercle. Pour le four, 200-250 F environ. Pour le reste, idem.

 

[scarf-ace]

At the suggestion of my compadres on the Natural Tobaccos thread, I combined tea and tobacco into one cook. 10 grams walnut liqueur pipe tobacco and 10 grams-ish of T2 Toasty Warm Oolong tea (flavored with honey and almond). Use a little more PG or VG to compensate for the tea-leaf expansion. Cook for two nights and dilute to 50%.

It is ridiculously good. I highly recommend trying your own variation on this, it is so satisfying on so many levels.

 

[scarf-ace]

Dougiestyle, what is PGA and where do I get it? And what makes it better than common garden-variety PG or VG?

 

[billherbst]

Dougiestyle, what is PGA and where do I get it? And what makes it better than common garden-variety PG or VG?

Scarfy,

PGA is pure grain alcohol. Or you can substitute any cheap vodka.

 

[scarf-ace]

Scarfy,

PGA is pure grain alcohol. Or you can substitute any cheap vodka.

Aha. Gotcha.
How does one tell when the PGA is evaporated? By smell?

 

[Strangebrew]

lol! It was bad enough spending our honeymoon in a tobacco patch....

 

[billherbst]

Aha. Gotcha. How does one tell when the PGA is evaporated? By smell?

I don't have a clue. Smell? Taste? That's what the caps-off steeping thing is about, letting the alcohol evaporate.

The only use I ever had for PGA or vodka for (since I've never been a drinker) was for soaking atties overnight to loosen the gunk on the coils before dry-burning, but I don't do that anymore, now that I use horizontal-bottom-coil Kanger cartos modded into atties. At $2 each, the time and effort to clean them aren't worth it to me.

 

[Dougiestyle]

Aha. Gotcha.
How does one tell when the PGA is evaporated? By smell?

The end amount should be ~60ml. If there's significantly more than 60ml, the PGA's not all gone. Open steeping will release any remaining PGA, but I've never had a problem with slight amounts of PGA in my liquids while vaping. It adds a bit of TH, actually. I've found that PGA draws the flavors out of whatever you're extracting at a higher rate of speed. Combined with heat, it's not a long, drawn-out process.

 

[StereoDreamer]

I bought a tin of Matcha (Japanese green tea) last night at the local Asian market, and I'm going to attempt to make an extract of this. My favorite ice cream is Green Tea Ice Cream, and I'm going to attempt to make a juice that tastes like that...

 

[mecocina]

Good luck Stereo. That sounds so refreshing. I hope it come out just like you want.

I'm going strain my blondie cigar and black & gold cavendish.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Good luck Stereo. That sounds so refreshing. I hope it come out just like you want.

I'm going strain my blondie cigar and black & gold cavendish.

I just bought three Acid Blondie cigars last week, and am going to start that extract this week. I keep hearing that they make a GREAT vape, and although I was never a fan of Acid cigars when I was a smoker, the consensus seems to be they make a fantastic NET.

 

[scarf-ace]

Stereo, I haven't done a Matcha but I have done a Sencha, and it is better than any commercial tea e-juice I've ever tried.

For the ice cream part, are you going to use vanilla or custard flavorings?

 

[StereoDreamer]

Stereo, I haven't done a Matcha but I have done a Sencha, and it is better than any commercial tea e-juice I've ever tried.

For the ice cream part, are you going to use vanilla or custard flavorings?

A combination of several vanillas, Dulce de Leche, and Malted Milk, (plus some sweetener) most likely.

Not a fan of the custard flavorings, because most of them have Acetoin...

 

[Barto]

Good luck Stereo. That sounds so refreshing. I hope it come out just like you want.

I'm going strain my blondie cigar and black & gold cavendish.

Sounds great alright!

 

[thedesbois]

Reporting results from my 2nd extraction.

This time I tried a flavored Chinese green tea. Had some dried apple & papaya in it. 100 ml of PG, 12 hours in Crock-pot. Strained once with coffee filter. Mixed as is with 60 mg 50/50 nic base at a ratio to get 12 mg ejuice.

Right there and then, it vaped ok. I could taste the apple & papaya a lot. But the green tea undertones where not balanced and tasted a bit burnt. Not a very good vape. So I set it aside as a fail and forgot about it.

Today, 10-12 days later, opened the bottle and it smelled better, different. Oh well, let's try it again. Wow! The steeping has blended it all together. No more burnt taste. More like a light cigar undertone. Like a flavored tobacco extraction. Very very good!

I might add 5% of distilled water to increase the TH.

Thanks to those who suggested teas and flavored teas extractions!

Next? I must find an "acid" cigar locally.

 

[scarf-ace]

Good job! I too am enjoying my teas. The quince Sencha is a masterpiece, and the teabacco is one of my favorite tobaccos at the moment.

I'm going to go tea shopping for my next project soon