Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

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Proverb31

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I've been using this method for over a year now. My original posts can be found in the thread "Impatient newbie strikes again...". Currently on page 2 of this Sub-Forum.

The key details that I have found to work the best using this process are as follows:

1. I use cut up cigars. I cut the cigars into grass sized pieces to fill a baby food bottle half way up.

2. Fill the bottle with PG until the tobacco is just submerged plus 1/4". Use only PG as the solvent liquid. We are trying to extract the flavor from the tobacco and PG works much better than VG or water for this purpose. Alcohol is much too strong to use for this.

3. Use small sealed bottles inside the covered slow cooker. I use baby food bottles and place a small dinner plate over the bottles to keep them from floating away when I fill the slow cooker with water to just under the bottle lids.

4. Cook on low for 8 to 12 hours. It seems that not much is gained to cook longer than 12 hours in my opinion.

5. Use coffee filters to filter the extract twice.

My thoughts:

My extracts are atty killers if vaped straight. I use the extract as a flavoring additive to my juices. I only use about 6 drops of extract in 10ml of juice. I use regular tobacco flavors to give the juice character.

I almost always add at least 2 drops of extract to every 10ml of juice I make. If it is a tobacco flavored juice I will use 6 drops per 10ml.

I have found that this was the missing ingredient I was searching for that I knew was missing from the juices I was making. I am almost positive that the high end vendors use a similar method when they make their juice.

For people trying to extract coffee flavor:

Look on the DIY forum for the coffee MICROWAVE METHOD.

The process for coffee flavors is much easier. You put the coffee in PG and microwave it and then let it steep overnight. Bingo! you have coffee flavoring! The whole process is spelled out in a thread in the DIY forum.

Good luck!

I've been reading through all of these and I think you summed up what I've read so far perfectly. I also have noticed some have better luck with the microwave method for tea as well. I'll keep reading and so far have seen the original banana post and one post about using an orange. Neither seemed like a great success to the authors. I'm still looking to see if anyone has found a good method for fruit. I do know you want to start with dried fruit, this is important. I know this is important in making essentials oil and it only makes sense for this application as well.
 

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I've been reading through all of these and I think you summed up what I've read so far perfectly. I also have noticed some have better luck with the microwave method for tea as well. I'll keep reading and so far have seen the original banana post and one post about using an orange. Neither seemed like a great success to the authors. I'm still looking to see if anyone has found a good method for fruit. I do know you want to start with dried fruit, this is important. I know this is important in making essentials oil and it only makes sense for this application as well.

100% agree with your post.

Same here, wanting to try with some fruits. Probably freeze dried ones are our best bet. It is said to be the drying method that retains the most flavor. And they are completely dry. Should work fine. Must find some freeze dried organic fruits now. :)
 

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100% agree with your post.

Same here, wanting to try with some fruits. Probably freeze dried ones are our best bet. It is said to be the drying method that retains the most flavor. And they are completely dry. Should work fine. Must find some freeze dried organic fruits now. :)

I can help you out with finding freeze dried fruit. I've found a vendor that seems highly rated. I haven't ordered from them yet, but will soon. My list is extensive, so many things I want from them. From my research you won't find better prices.


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P.S. chech out their raw cocao beans! They seem to me like they need a warm bath in PG :)
 

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Started straining and filtering my most recent batch of Tea Extracts today.

The Jasmine Tea smells delightful (just like last time) but it's a bit more concentrated I think. Filtering is proceeding as before--slow but well.

The Japanese Green Tea (Matcha Powder) however, is filtering painfully slow. I'm getting maybe an eighth of a ML each hour, and that is with changing my paper filters every hour or two. It's just a thick, muddy slurry. Smells great, and the extract is clear and golden-green, but at this rate, it will take a week to filter the two half-pint jars I have.

I may have to order a vacuum flask and Buchner funnel, and filter it under negative pressure to get it to filter out properly in a reasonable amount of time...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Büchner_flask
 

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I have been stalking this thread, I have read it probably 100 times. Thank you guys for this thread. I have been vaping a mixture of my virginia extract and caramel for over 3 weeks (3 different mixtures) and finally dialed in the perfect ratio (for me). I also made a chai for a friend who loves it, a gold cavendish mixed with chocolate flavoring that will be awesome (after I filter with the 1 micron filters mentioned early), flavor is great but damn it gunks up fast, and I have a green tea extract I have yet to try (waiting for the filters) and a french lavender earl grey (which also gunks up the coils fast too). The french lavender earl grey is a little too green right now, so I am guessing that there is tiny plant particles still in it, or the lavender has a really green taste (since the earl grey is strong but smooth on the inhale and the green taste is strong on the exhale).
I can't wait for my cherry cavendish, burley, latakia, b&B, and cinnamon burley (the sound of cinnamon tobacco and chai seems like an amazing mix waiting to happen).
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Bought a very fresh pack/pouch of Bugler Gold. For my opinion far and away the best cigarette tobacco I can find that still tastes like, actually a little better then, a fresh pack of Camel Wides. I steeped the entire pack in about 4oz of pure VG (99%ISP Kosher Food Grade.

Using my microwave at 40% I would heat it 20 seconds, then take the glass out to hold and get a good feel of the heat I was imparting to the soup Using that 20 sec burst at 40% power I repeated, stirring and pressing until it just barely began to bubble. Lay a heavy saucer on top of the cup to seal and let sit till lukewarm, interfering with occasional stirring and pressing. Then heat in steps again until just below first boil, cover and sit.
I then let it sit overnight.
And the next day did one slow heat till it 'looked' like it wanted to boil,stirring and pressing, then let it sit till evening, whence I performed same heating, stirring and pressing ritual again.
On the Third Day I stirred it lightly in the morning, but added no heat. Just let it settle. That evening of the third I warmed it slowly until it was warm, almost hot, to the touch. And used that warmer, thus thinner liquid to strain through several layers of coffee filtration. I bottled two 20ml bottles full and dropped them in my crisper in the fridge And a third 20ml bottle that has about 7-8 ml, This is my working bottle.
With Five Drops in a five ml of (9mgNic)VG I get an incredibly clean tobacco flavor that I can smoke stand alone and be happy.

In fact I have kept a clearo loaded with nothing but that for three days now and it is stable. By stable I mean I enjoy it first toke of the day and I enjoy the last toke of the day just as nice.

Now I know I will blend and play. When my next ship from TFA comes in I will have all the flavors they trued out with the Boba's clone thread. As well as a few I want to try to play based on the list of flavoring additives British American Tobacco admits that they put in their commercial tube cigarettes.
 

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If you were doing this with pre-bagged black tea, would you recommend leaving it in the bag or removing the leaves first?

You know, I've never done it with tea in a bag, but instinct tells me that it would be better without it. I don't know how well the PG would penetrate through the pores of the bag, and you would certainly get better saturation if you were free to stir it.
 

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Hi folks ~ I'm now on day three using scarf-ace's OP method. Using a 30/70 pg/vg with Peter Stokkebye Norwegian and an organic Kentucky tobacco. The house is smelling pretty good by now. Both extracts have a rich honey color with the Stokkebye having a richer aroma. More to come as my first attempt at extraction continues. Thanks Scarf.:)
 

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Any Teavana fans out there?

I got some Tropical Rooibos and Strawberry Lemonade for Christmas and decided to make some extracts today. I did 1 part tea to 2 parts PG and then cooked it double boiler style in coffee cups for 1/2 hour.

I am waiting on the 'official mixes' with the nic and all, but I put 2 drips of this and two drips of VG in the atty and it was AWESOME!

Thanks Scarf-Ace for all of your knowledgeable sharing. <3

Hello papercrow
I am interested in the flavor profiles you got from these teas. Do they hold up and come through I really like the strawberry lemonade tea by the cup, in the extraction does it hold up?

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So far I am a little half way through the thread, and it is a great read. Wanted to say thanks to Scarf-ace for a great thread.

As I am reading I am taking notes on suggestions.

One thing I was hoping to find was a few suggestions on where a good place to order tobacco from? I saw someone mention pipesandcigars.com so I have that bookmarked. Any other suggestions with good tobacco and/or prices? Hoping to start with good pipe tobacco and some flavored pipe tobacco.

I have a ultrasonic cleaner that has a separate heater, goes to 178 F, but think I may buy a separate crock pot since they are cheap and i don't wear out the ultrasonic cleaner any faster. Any particular suggestions on crock pots? Mainly asking to make sure it goes to the right heat/temperature.

Also, I have read so far where someone used a french press and someone else use a syringe with cotton in it for the initial filter. Any suggestions on what works best? Somewhere in the thread I saw a juice injector for cooking that looked large which might be good to use with cotton.

Thanks again, and any suggestions are appreciated. Some of my questions may be answered as I read more but thought I would put them out there in case they weren't and as a way to subscribe to the thread.
 

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Thanks face and chi. I saw the syringe filters on amazon, can those be reused? Does it work with any Looks like they just attach to the bottom of the syringe and not to the needle tip.

Gonna keep reading the thread, getting an idea of what all I would need and maybe start picking some stuff up. At this time thinking filter through coffe filters 2 or 3 times and then use the syring filter.

A french press would leave a fair bit of particulate behind, more so than a syringe with cotton. A french press filtration followed by a syringe/cotton filtration followed by a syringe filter (available on amazon...they work great!) filtration would be ideal.

I did my with 2 syringe/cotton filtration and I have no problem with the atty
 
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