SOBER VAPERS - Vaping Sober - ROLLCALL!

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Surf Monkey

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Even by Surf's obviously inflammatory definition, to assert that there are no vapors at 0% nic is absurd and his assertion that there is no such thing as Sober vaping is wholly false. Unless of course he wishes to assert that PG and/or VG are intoxicants which at this point would not surprise me in the least.

Maybe you should read all of what I wrote before taking me to task. Why? Because I've said very clearly in more than two posts in this thread that the only way to vape sober is to use 0% nic liquid. So, your criticism is based on incomplete information and is, therefore, completely invalid.
 

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This is a tremendous thread. Glad I read it at work.

"Hard drugs" is a difficult expression for me to comprehend. I think most of us could agree on a few which are not "hard", but aside from that, it's a perspective thing.

And the exclusive forums (AA,NA, etc) have their purpose. But they often exclude such an eclectic group as we found here.

Exactly. The designation "hard" is absolutely arbitrary. Alcohol is arguably the "hardest" of all the drugs, for example.
 

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I bet Surf Monkey is really some famous, rich, republican and is sitting on a diamond encrusted beanbag chair right now yucking it up.

Famous? No. Republican? WAY no. Rich? Compared to 95% of the US population at large, yes. Compared to Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos? Hells no!
 

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Cute.

But here's a better idea: when I'm not around feel free not to smear me behind my back.

I'm not as Experienced with All the Subtle Nuances of the OUTSIDE as some. But how is making a Joke about Cheney a Smear? Or are you just Playing a Card?

You told me one time Surf that I Shouldn't have Thin Skin if I wanted to Post in the OUTSIDE with the Sharks.

Has your Epidermal Thickness changed since the Last time you were here Telling People what the Meaning of Sobriety Should Be for Them?
 

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Oh, and if anyone remembers, I got thrashed roundly for even SUGGESTING that the ECF acts as a support group for people. Now, when you and others IMAGINE that I'm insulting people by pointing out the actual definition of sober suddenly I'm the one who's disrespecting the support system here?

Seems to me that the message is clear. Surf is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Now, who was "playing games" again?
 

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Hey, if you want to conduct yourself in a clearly rude and disrespectful way that's your perogative.

LOL

You have to Admit Surf, that coming from You, what you just said Was Kinda Funny.

I am starting to see that a Pattern Developing around here. You seem to be able to Post Carte Blanche. But if someone Challenges or Pokes Fun at you, that it is Disrespectful or a Smear.

Not Really the Type of Behavior you would Expect from a "Shark". More like something you would hear from a Minnow.

For an OUTSIDE Post, I really didn't see it as being Rude or Disrespectful. But if I have Upset you or Hurt your Ego, I'm Sorry.

I'll edit the Post if you want me to. Just say the Word.
 

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LOL

You have to Admit Surf, that coming from You, what you just said Was Kinda Funny.

Only if you have a problem understanding the difference between "here" and "not here." For all my snark, I don't go after people when they're not around. That was my point.

But do please continue to address the poster and not the post. I'm sure that'll work out great for you!
 

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Only if you have a problem understanding the difference between "here" and "not here." For all my snark, I don't go after people when they're not around. That was my point.

...

Dude. Are you saying that People can Only Reply to you when You are Online?

LMAO
 

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Dude. Are you saying that People can Only Reply to you when You are Online?

LMAO

Nope. I'm saying that it's obvious when a poster hasn't been active for a few days. The fact that you used that period to smear me pretty much says it all.

Sorry you're so ....-hurt about me. Maybe a change in priorities is in order?
 

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Nope. I'm saying that it's obvious when a poster hasn't been active for a few days. The fact that you used that period to smear me pretty much says it all.

Sorry you're so ....-hurt about me. Maybe a change in priorities is in order?

How are we supposed to know if you haven't been Active for a Few Days? I think your are Getting Paranoid and think Everyone is Out to Get You.

It sounds like you having a Bad Day. Why don't I let you have the Last Word.
 

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How are we supposed to know if you haven't been Active for a Few Days? I think your are Getting Paranoid and think Everyone is Out to Get You.

It sounds like you having a Bad Day. Why don't I let you have the Last Word.

Whatever, z. Looks like you started a fight you can't win.
 

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I'm not fighting anyone. I made a simple statement and I stand by it. Unless you're vaping 0% nic you are not technically sober when you vape. Nicotine is a drug. Fact. Sober vaper is an oxymoron. Fact. All the rest of the sound and fury in this thread is coming from people who, for whatever reason, find those facts personally offensive. I did not articulate them to start a fight or to degrade anyone. I found the title of the thread amusing. Thus my reply to z.
 

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I'm not fighting anyone. I made a simple statement and I stand by it. Unless you're vaping 0% nic you are not technically sober when you vape. Nicotine is a drug. Fact. Sober vaper is an oxymoron. Fact. All the rest of the sound and fury in this thread is coming from people who, for whatever reason, find those facts personally offensive. I did not articulate them to start a fight or to degrade anyone. I found the title of the thread amusing. Thus my reply to z.

Just to clarify, while I cannot speak for everyone, I do not find the fact that nicotine is a drug personally offensive. The assertion that sober vaping is an oxymoron, in light of the many people who vape 0 nic, which you yourself have admitted, is still as incorrect today as it was three days ago. There still seems to be some confusion remaining about things suddenly becoming fact just because you state them as such.

If there is a need to find something that someone could find personally offensive you might try looking at someone who has fought through an addiction and is looking to share and encourage others having their thread trolled and deliberately derailed.

Anyone here on ECF actively seeking sobriety on a daily basis? Anyone attend AA/NA meetings?
I am creating this thread for those of us who are vaping e-cigs and staying clean.
ROLL CALL! Talk about life. Keep each other motivated. Keep each-other company & help each other.

Context and intent... You can play dumb all you want, but do not kid yourself into thinking anyone here does not understand that you know full well what you are doing. Do you really think someone came to an ecig forum looking for others like minded individuals abstaining from nicotine by attending AA/NA meetings?? Is there honestly some way you can justify questioning this persons sobriety and see it as anything but trolling??

You have no concept of context and intent?? I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe that's true.
 

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Just to clarify, while I cannot speak for everyone, I do not find the fact that nicotine is a drug personally offensive. The assertion that sober vaping is an oxymoron, in light of the many people who vape 0 nic, which you yourself have admitted, is still as incorrect today as it was three days ago. There still seems to be some confusion remaining about things suddenly becoming fact just because you state them as such.

If there is a need to find something that someone could find personally offensive you might try looking at someone who has fought through an addiction and is looking to share and encourage others having their thread trolled and deliberately derailed.



Context and intent... You can play dumb all you want, but do not kid yourself into thinking anyone here does not understand that you know full well what you are doing. Do you really think someone came to an ecig forum looking for others like minded individuals abstaining from nicotine by attending AA/NA meetings?? Is there honestly some way you can justify questioning this persons sobriety and see it as anything but trolling??

You have no concept of context and intent?? I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe that's true.

Ya Know wacdenney, You may be the Funniest Person on the OUTSIDE.

But you can Also be Very Serious and can Post things that Hits the Nail Right on the Head.

:thumb:
 

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I looked in here for discussion by sober vapers.
I found a troll being fed.

Who are you again?

No offense here Mowgli but while I don't agree with Surf's tact here, he is a long standing contributor to this subforum and his propensity for using semantics in his arguments is a well-known trait among regulars. You however, are not known, and show up in a thread to throw out a cheap shot is pretty close to the definition of what a troll actually does.

So that "check yourself before you wreck yourself" thing I said earlier? Applies.
 
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