Starting a LIST of diacetyl-free ejuice suppliers. Please, keep to JUST listing the supplier names!
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Exactly. I would like to see lists of suppliers that are Diacetyl AND Pentanediol/Acetylpropriny free. Both are butter flavors and both can cause you to need a lung transplant from lung failure.
Even the .02 ppm thing bothers me. If it is .009 Diacetyl that a vaper absorbs and that's considered safe, what if we use more flavoring than the testers used? If we use triple what they used, wouldn't that bring you to the danger zone of .02?
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Is this list being updated from anyones posts who throws a name out? Is it being cross checked or verified by the OP? This is a good idea but it is all very confusing and the process is questionable... :-(
i agree...after reading kushka's post on "Ask your suppliers to remove diacetyl", i have decided not to worry as much about diacetyl. i still will prefer to use eliquids that dont have it, but am not going to lose sleep over this. if the mods want to delete this thread, feel free to, or close it. thanks!
I appreciate what you are doing, I really do. Those other (diacetyl) threads have became ridiculous to say the least... I just want to know this thread is a little more than "somewhat" correct, thats all. I am fully on board, I would prefer to be as safe 'n healthy as is possible, and the suppliers that are coming forward and saying that they use the best ingredients and leave out potentially bad ones is the way Im leaning for sure...
Thanks.
Thanks.
What? Do you have something to document this statement with regard to vaping, which is, I think, what all the discussions have been about.
I emailed Viking Vapor and was informed that all their juice is diacetyl-free. I've never ordered from them but their prices look great $9.95 for 30 ml. They have over a hundred flavors and sell 7.5 ml for $3. I'm going to place an order and I'll post some reviews later.
New evidence for diacetyl, lung disease risk
inhalation of diacetyl. isn't that what vaping is? inhaling whatever is in eliquid?
i would but for some reason edit function is gone on original post!?!?
Add Goodprophets to the list.They didn't get confirmation back one way or another on their keemer PG line, but they're not planning on stocking that any longer, and their VG is all good.
I appreciate this thread. I made a copyof the initial list, saved it in my documents, then I can add and update the list for my own use. Since the initial list is not able to be edited anymore. I haven't see Freedom Smoke USA. Does this mean they use diacetyl?
As far as I know they do. I once saw a thread where they said they did not but they use flavor art which does have diacetyl. However, David has assured that his juices are safe and is actually going to get a spectrum analysis of his and other vendors juices so we have some facts to look at. Needless to say, I'm very anxious for the analysis because I do NOT want to be vaping diaceytl.
One bit of very good news - FlavourArt is working on removing diacetyl from their flavors altogether. The FDA seems to be looking at diacetyl again (this time with the express purpose of banning a food flavoring from the GRAS - generally recognized as safe - list based on inhalation) so it would make sense that they're getting rid of it as it might not be FDA approved.
So, testing/research or not, all FA flavors should be diacetyl-free before long. In the meantime, the list linked in my signature is ever-changing, but be aware that your vendors may still be using the older diacetyl-containing flavour art flavors, even if they are not on this newest version of the list. Here's the older one:
nov.23rd
Apple pie 0.4
Beer 0.001
Butter 1.5
Butterscotch 0.1
Beef boiled 0.00005
Bell pepper 0.01
Cappuccino 0.001
Catalan cream 0.01
Chestnut 0.03
Champagne 0.0016
Croissant 0.074
Cheese Erdammer 0.09
Cheese Emmenthal 0.018
Cheese Parmigiano 0.29
Caramel 0.07
Coconut 0.5
Corn 0.2
Cream 0.078
Custard 0.06
Egg yolk 0.015
Fried 0.01
Hazelnut 0.01
Hypnotic mist 0.007
Maple 0.012
Milk condensed 0.5
Malt 0.01
Melon 0.01
Nut wild mix 0.9
Oba Oba 0.005
Olive 0.01
Oryental 4 - 0.03.
Potato 0.00012
Pistacchio 0.0015
Royal 0.02
Rum 0.022
Soy sauce 0.35
Salmon 0.02
Truffle black 0.1
Tiramisu 0.05
Vanilla classic 0.07
Vanilla Madagascar 0.04
Vanilla Tahiti 0.08
Yogurt 1.6
So, testing/research or not, all FA flavors should be diacetyl-free before long. In the meantime, the list linked in my signature is ever-changing, but be aware that your vendors may still be using the older diacetyl-containing flavour art flavors, even if they are not on this newest version of the list. Here's the older one:
nov.23rd
Apple pie 0.4
Beer 0.001
Butter 1.5
Butterscotch 0.1
Beef boiled 0.00005
Bell pepper 0.01
Cappuccino 0.001
Catalan cream 0.01
Chestnut 0.03
Champagne 0.0016
Croissant 0.074
Cheese Erdammer 0.09
Cheese Emmenthal 0.018
Cheese Parmigiano 0.29
Caramel 0.07
Coconut 0.5
Corn 0.2
Cream 0.078
Custard 0.06
Egg yolk 0.015
Fried 0.01
Hazelnut 0.01
Hypnotic mist 0.007
Maple 0.012
Milk condensed 0.5
Malt 0.01
Melon 0.01
Nut wild mix 0.9
Oba Oba 0.005
Olive 0.01
Oryental 4 - 0.03.
Potato 0.00012
Pistacchio 0.0015
Royal 0.02
Rum 0.022
Soy sauce 0.35
Salmon 0.02
Truffle black 0.1
Tiramisu 0.05
Vanilla classic 0.07
Vanilla Madagascar 0.04
Vanilla Tahiti 0.08
Yogurt 1.6
Add Eastmall to the list please. We get all our liquids from DeKang (already listed), and all necessary precautions have been taken to ensure that no unsafe products or chemicals have been added to the liquids.
If you haven't already seen this, here is Leaford's tour of the DeKang factory:
YouTube - dhenschel05's Channel
And some references on the DeKang website, which includes SGS certificates, MSDS sheets, toxicity testing reports, KFDA certification, and a Food Hygiene License:
Changning Dekang Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
If you haven't already seen this, here is Leaford's tour of the DeKang factory:
YouTube - dhenschel05's Channel
And some references on the DeKang website, which includes SGS certificates, MSDS sheets, toxicity testing reports, KFDA certification, and a Food Hygiene License:
Changning Dekang Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
Very impressive. Maybe we can send a junket over there to see what really can be done and how to do it.
Liberty Flights sells flavorart as a flavoring do they not use it to make their own juice? The uk liberty flights website even copies flavorarts diacetyl warning (which I applaud them for)
I might be going over there at some point (hopefully sooner rather than later) to meet with David Yang and tour the factories. It is something that has been talked about, though no definitive plans have been set yet.
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