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twgbonehead

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So, while it seems slow, I disappeared for... Not quite a year and a half? And I feel a need to at least throw a post in the current version of my ECF 'home'.

So, hey. Hi anyone who may have some clue who the heck this random person posting is, and still 'hi' to anyone who doesn't.

Also, Lox's Swedish Fish juice is still one of the best things I have ever had the pure joy of sticking in a tank ^.~

(flattery still gets me somewhere around here, right? :D)

Hi Kittyn! Good to see you again as well!
 

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yes snow is a big factor here as well. Lots of it. And plenty of ice and freezing rain to go along with it there as well. :( Hello and good morning to all. Hope everyone has a safe day today. :D

It's just raining here, thank GOD. I gotta take the truck to the truck dr. today, oh what fun, sitting around a car dealership's shop all day; gotta get the oil changed and a new thermostat -- can't run the AC without a thermostat, and spring is right around the corner. (IT BETTER BE!!!) Can you believe that nowadays it costs over $200 to get a new thermostat put in? Geez. I liked the old cars, pre-computers; down here in the south, we just took the stupid thermostat completely OUT. :grr:

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It's just raining here, thank GOD. I gotta take the truck to the truck dr. today, oh what fun, sitting around a car dealership's shop all day; gotta get the oil changed and a new thermostat -- can't run the AC without a thermostat, and spring is right around the corner. (IT BETTER BE!!!) Can you believe that nowadays it costs over $200 to get a new thermostat put in? Geez. I liked the old cars, pre-computers; down here in the south, we just took the stupid thermostat completely OUT. :grr:

Andria

Wow. That is silly high for a thermostat change. I guess it could also depend on the car, but I generally work on my own vehicle whenever possible. So that being said, I agree. I'd give my HHR away in a heartbeat for a pre 1980 car. I miss the old days when I could just trade and swap back and forth and have a great car from a pile of junk in a little under a month. Turning that paper clip into a house. :D

Glad to hear that someone is getting some kind of spring like weather. Here it is spring one day, and then the very next day it is snowing and back down in the single digits to no temp at all. :(
 

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Wow. That is silly high for a thermostat change. I guess it could also depend on the car, but I generally work on my own vehicle whenever possible. So that being said, I agree. I'd give my HHR away in a heartbeat for a pre 1980 car. I miss the old days when I could just trade and swap back and forth and have a great car from a pile of junk in a little under a month. Turning that paper clip into a house. :D

Glad to hear that someone is getting some kind of spring like weather. Here it is spring one day, and then the very next day it is snowing and back down in the single digits to no temp at all. :(

It's a Chevy Silverado. And it's at the Chevy dealership, on the theory that if we get all our work done there, then when we go to trade it in, they'll have full records on maintenance, and know it's been well-taken-care-of, so we'll get a good trade-in value.

It's pretty cold here today, but that's by GA standards -- up north, they'd probably wear shorts in 45 degree rain. :D To me, it's the kind of cold that seeps into your bones, when it's both wet and cold. I'd trade it for snow in a heartbeat, if they had the infrastructure down here to deal with snow -- but they don't, so that means an inch of snow is treated like SNOWPOCALYPSE! I was supposed to take the truck in last Tuesday, but we got about a half inch of snow, and I was afraid to go out driving -- not because the roads were bad, they weren't, but for all the imbeciles that would be half-off the road, in front of me. :facepalm:

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It's a Chevy Silverado. And it's at the Chevy dealership, on the theory that if we get all our work done there, then when we go to trade it in, they'll have full records on maintenance, and know it's been well-taken-care-of, so we'll get a good trade-in value.

It's pretty cold here today, but that's by GA standards -- up north, they'd probably wear shorts in 45 degree rain. :D To me, it's the kind of cold that seeps into your bones, when it's both wet and cold. I'd trade it for snow in a heartbeat, if they had the infrastructure down here to deal with snow -- but they don't, so that means an inch of snow is treated like SNOWPOCALYPSE! I was supposed to take the truck in last Tuesday, but we got about a half inch of snow, and I was afraid to go out driving -- not because the roads were bad, they weren't, but for all the imbeciles that would be half-off the road, in front of me. :facepalm:

Andria

Ah dealership. That makes more sense now. LoL

Yeah I live in Indiana. We have had snow every year since forever. And every year the first time it snows, no one is capable of driving down the road. Everyone freaks out and there are 500 billion wrecks and cars off the road in ditches. Just kind of sad really.
 

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It's pretty cold here today, but that's by GA standards -- up north, they'd probably wear shorts in 45 degree rain.
Andria

We actually had to yell at my son to wear long pants to school on a couple of days. (On most days it was a no-brainer, but we went through a warm spell where it got into the high 20's). Apparently part of being "cool" is wearing shorts year-round, and he certainly pushes the envelope. (At least he never got into that "wearing your pants around your knees" thing, thank heavens!!!)

What we're living in fear of is the rain, though. The storm drains are all covered by major banks of snow (heavily packed at this point by the repeated plowing) so any significant amount of rain is going to mean major flooding, followed by ice-skating for everyone!

And if you of the gentler climes don't know what ice dams are, count your blessings! (Think of them as rooftop swimming-pools, provided by Mother Nature). My mom calls it her "Automatic indoor plant-watering system".

We're officially at 8 feet 8 inches of snow so far, only about 3 inches off of the all-time record. Think we'll hit it with this storm. (But what makes it worse is that this has ALL been starting from the beginning of February, with no melting reprieve!!!)

Forgive me for whining so. I thought I was done complaining about this winter, apparently I was mistaken.
 

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Ah dealership. That makes more sense now. LoL

Yeah I live in Indiana. We have had snow every year since forever. And every year the first time it snows, no one is capable of driving down the road. Everyone freaks out and there are 500 billion wrecks and cars off the road in ditches. Just kind of sad really.

It doesn't snow much down here, hence the total lack of infrastructure to deal with it. Usually it melts within a couple hours, since the ground doesn't freeze -- though there are sometimes exceptions; it snows, then half-melts, then freezes again that night, and that is the real problem, when it refreezes into a solid sheet of ice. Then it's anyone's guess as to when anyone will be able to get anywhere -- could be a week or more. That happened in Jan '11; biggest snow I have EVER seen in GA in nearly 54 yrs of life, about 8 inches; then it froze, and the city came to a standstill for about 10 days while it stayed cold.

I was fortunate to get a shuttle-ride home from the dealership, so I can vape in comfort while they doctor the truck, instead of having to either stealth or go hang out with the smokers. WIN! While I was there, waiting for the shuttle, I went to stand outside the doors and vape; some guy came out and lit up a cigarette about 20 ft from me, and I had to go in to get away from that stench!

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It's a Chevy Silverado. And it's at the Chevy dealership, on the theory that if we get all our work done there, then when we go to trade it in, they'll have full records on maintenance, and know it's been well-taken-care-of, so we'll get a good trade-in value.

It's pretty cold here today, but that's by GA standards -- up north, they'd probably wear shorts in 45 degree rain. :D To me, it's the kind of cold that seeps into your bones, when it's both wet and cold. I'd trade it for snow in a heartbeat, if they had the infrastructure down here to deal with snow -- but they don't, so that means an inch of snow is treated like SNOWPOCALYPSE! I was supposed to take the truck in last Tuesday, but we got about a half inch of snow, and I was afraid to go out driving -- not because the roads were bad, they weren't, but for all the imbeciles that would be half-off the road, in front of me. :facepalm:

Andria

Haha, it was 28 yesterday, and we had people in shorts/no jackets. No rain though, just multiple inches of snow still on the ground.

I was not on of these people, though I did let the minions go outside in sweatshirts instead of full on winter gear lol
 

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It's a Chevy Silverado. And it's at the Chevy dealership, on the theory that if we get all our work done there, then when we go to trade it in, they'll have full records on maintenance, and know it's been well-taken-care-of, so we'll get a good trade-in value.

It's pretty cold here today, but that's by GA standards -- up north, they'd probably wear shorts in 45 degree rain. :D To me, it's the kind of cold that seeps into your bones, when it's both wet and cold. I'd trade it for snow in a heartbeat, if they had the infrastructure down here to deal with snow -- but they don't, so that means an inch of snow is treated like SNOWPOCALYPSE! I was supposed to take the truck in last Tuesday, but we got about a half inch of snow, and I was afraid to go out driving -- not because the roads were bad, they weren't, but for all the imbeciles that would be half-off the road, in front of me. :facepalm:

Andria

Hahaha. With the below zero temperatures I have accumulated to this winter my normal body temperature is back to my high school average. 99.9. Had to turn the heat down to 66 so I quit sweating all day. If it was 45 outside I would be in shorts and a tshirt. Would feel like 65+ if no wind chill.

I hate the cold DRY winds. Makes my eczema act up, and I snore so I wake up with a sore dry throat so I have to wait to vape in the morning.

Im hoping we loose all the snow by next Monday and its 40+ so no ice for the 2 hour drive to see childs heart doctor. Its been 6 months since we last saw him. Plus there is two new ecig stores I want to stopby if girlfriend will let me pick where we eat.. (OF COURSE I'm picking the closest restaurant to the stores... lol)
 

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So, spent yesterday in the hospital after a heart attack... not fun.

Sorry I've been lurking, work has been a mess and the new phone is crap signal

Holy Crap! Are you okay?

I echo RangerRobin's question and concern! GEEZ! Hope you're alright!!! Surprised they let you out after just one day, but I'm sure you're glad of it!!

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Robin, yeah I'm ok. They kept me overnight to make sure that it wasn't an ongoing heart attack and only let me out when the lab work confirmed it. I already have a cardiologist from an existing heart condition so they are shipping me off to him for more testing to see what damage there has been done and to make sure there isn't a blockage.

My primary dr/pa is closer to my house then the non-cardiac rated hospital I was in, if there was any signs of a flare up they would have transferred me to cardiac ICU 40 miles away... about a $10k trip by bandage buggy.

Andria, they only released me when the symptoms were gone via lab confirmation and because my insurance didn't want to pay for anything but emergency meds. If I stayed they would have to come home. They shipped me home (with my wife driving) with everything but pain meds since I'm allergic to most of them and it would mess up work.

With the cardiologist screening of test results I got a day off work and 0 restrictions as the event had happened Saturday and Sunday according to him. Which makes sense cuz that's when I needed the nitro lol.

PA and cardio follow-up in very near future with stress test and most likely another heart cath (ouch) in the mix.

And the worst part? Hospital food!
 

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Well, the time has come for me to finally make a desperate tilt at quitting cigarettes.

My history with smoking kinda goes like this; I started smoking at 21 and smoked over a pack a day until I was 29. At 29 I quit smoking after perhaps a year of truly contemplating quitting for financial and health reason. I finally butted out my last cigarette in 2001 and stayed free of smoking for a good 8 years where during that time I did not have a single puff of a cigarette.

Something happened around 2009, the most trivial, seemingly inconsequential little fling with smoking happened which made me slide right back into smoking. I had a cigar at a wedding. From there I poked around a friend who was a smoker pinching a cigarette here and there and within 2 weeks I was back to a packet a day. It was that easy to slip right back into smoking after 8 years of not having a single puff.

Having experienced what it is like to be a non smoker (and I say non smoker because the cravings stopped after about a year and I didn't think of smoking at all during the next 7 years) I had a good frame of reference to put into perspective the changes my body was going through having returned to smoking. The congestion in the lungs, the shortened breaths, the stains, the bad smells, the gunky feeling on the teeth, the lessening regard by peers, the gas station runs when a packet runs out in the middle of the night, the expense, oh my the expense. $20 a packet here in Australia. Nothing cost me as much as smoking except for maybe the rent.

Even though I was well hooked to smoking again I couldn't tolerate the habit having lived smoke free for 8 years and that is where, in 2010, I discovered electronic cigarettes. Little 510 threaded devices could produce a vapor that was flavorsome and would supply nicotine. Wonderful I thought! I remember the very first time I tried an electronic cigarette. It was early in 2010 and I vaped a disposable cigar which had no nicotine in it. The vapor itself warmed me with the promise of an alternative that would get me off cigarettes.

However, in the last 5 years I have been vaping it hasn't been smooth sailing. I am not one of those people that picks up his first electronic cigarette and right there and then crushes a box of cigarettes, never to smoke again. I envy those people. What an extraordinary find vaping must be for those who can get their first order of e-cigarettes and liquids and give up smoking overnight?


I have fluctuated from being a fully fledged smoker putting down a packet a day while my vaping supplies gather dust and my liquids over-steep into brown muck, to not smoking at all for 6 months and enjoying the wonderful experience of vaping. The first 6 month period in which I did not touch a cigarette was the result of having discovered WTA, (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids) which effectively provide some of those fringe chemicals in the form of alkaloids that are missing from normal e-liquid.Most of the time, during the last 5 years I have smoked 5-10 cigarettes a day.

My smoking patterns would usually result from a life event that would delicately toss me off vaping and get me back into the habit of smoking, or vice versa. It could be a holiday I took in which I allowed myself the liberty to smoke, or perhaps a move of house where a housemate smoked, or just plain old stressful moments in life. At one point I had a girlfriend who abhorred smoking so I would vape when I spent weekends with her only to buy a fresh pack of cigarettes as soon as I went back home and hid the closet smoking from her for the entire duration of our relationship.

The thing is, I love vaping. I have so many liquids and so many devices I could set up a few brick and mortar stores. Yet, I continue to smoke. I tend to smoke 5-10 cigarettes a day. For the last year I've struggled to break this 5-10 cigarettes a day routine.

About 18 months ago I broke a full 6 month quit from smoking when I moved back into an environment where cigarettes were around. Ever since I have planned to quit and here I am 18 months later still smoking anything from 5 to 20 a day (usually 5 a day on work days and 20 a day on weekends). However, about 1 month ago I declared a date to quit which is tomorrow, yes *tomorrow*. This increased desire to quit with a greater determination comes from a few areas of incentive. Just recently I stocked up on quite a few liquids and I have been keeping up with the ever increasing technology of devices. With each new order of liquids or devices I would tell myself it is my reward for quitting smoking *next month*. I can barely comprehend my own foolish optimism. However, next month would come and I would still be smoking. As a result, I have not been able to enjoy all this vaping gear to the fullest. I finally want to be able to vape exclusively without the flavour being diminished because of smoking or because I have had my nicotine fill from cigarettes.

However, this is a trivial reason compared to the facts about cancer and death statistics I recently accidentally stumbled upon at that time I decided to stop smoking with a new found resolution. I discovered that smokers who never quit smoking have a 25-30 times greater chance of getting lung cancer than non smokers. a non-smoker has a less than 1 in 200 chance of getting lung cancer at some stage in their life, a smoker who never quits has a 16% chance (pretty much a Russian roulette chance). This was a startling statistic and I had no idea. Why I didn't know this after so many years of smoking astounded me but it gave me the resolve I needed.

I know if I can go 2-3 days without a cigarette it shouldn't be too difficult. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but when you finally bite the bullet and stop smoking, within a couple of days, or even immediately, vaping is so much more enjoyable and it fills that craving for a cigarette to an extent where we wonder why we didn't just stop smoking ages ago. My problem has been that I've been complacent thinking I can quit any time because I have e-cigs. That mentality has resulted in the opposite effect - it has delayed my cessation of tobacco under a false guise of ease of quitting.

What that means is that there has been no lead up mental preparation to a quit date. The thinking is something along the lines of 'well I am smoking now, sure, but I have my e-cigs so when the day comes I will just stop smoking and revert back to vaping full time'. The problem is when that day comes and the packet is still sitting in the top drawer, the fingers are drawn to the cigarettes like a magnet, not the personal vaporiser, especially first thing in the morning or after a big or with coffee (the three most important moments in a smokers life).

So this time, I am very serious about it but I enter this new phase sheepishly and with plenty of apprehension. I've had a pack of cigarettes sitting in the top drawer at all times for the last 18 months, and it seems daunting to not even have one sitting around just in case I get an acute craving.

One thing I have learnt about smoking and vaping for me is that the roadblock is not in stopping smoking but stopping buying packets. It is all psychological and habit based and not the chemical addiction that drives a compulsion to smoke for someone who has enough nicotine in liquid form to kill a small population, as I am sure many of us here on this thread have.

During the working day I don't smoke for 10 hours and don't even think about smoking. When I go out on Friday nights I take my e-cigarettes with me and not cigarettes because I don't want to smell like a foul stench when socialising. I also don't miss smoking during those times. The problem I have is that I can't stop buying packets. If I don't have a packet with me I don't miss cigarettes but if I have a packet I will reach for the packet before I reach for an e-cig.

I felt I needed to post this in this forum as an affirmation and I am of the opinion that sticking around here, reading and responding, might help me a little. Indeed, back when I quit for 8 years the first time, I sought the counsel of a quit smoking channel on the cobranet server of MIRC (before the internet proliferated) and it made all the difference.

I urge anyone here who still is struggling with cigarettes to try a bit harder and come to grips with the sobering reality that as smokers who never quit, we have a 30 times greater likelihood of getting lung cancer and that says nothing about the increased rates of death causing illnesses such as stroke, other cancers and heart attacks from smoking.
 
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