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Hurmmm. But isn't extracted WTA all the same? What makes one different from the other? Why is Aromae's 'very special' WTA more than twice the price than Wholecigs, if Wholecigs is also 100% WTA?

I've tried both unflavored and used both diluted and straight. Without paying too much attention of having acutely compared the two, I have a tendency to favor the Aromae WTA product, but that could be conditioning rather than based on an actual, objective comparison.


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I'm going to assume its purely preference. I THINK all the manufacturers of WTA use slightly different processes, and probably different tobacco strains/types. It'd be interesting to have the ability to run a lab comparison of them to figure out what of that 'other' alkaloids are present in each, and in what quantities. I, however, am a housewife. I don't have that access or knowledge :D

Aroma, I think, was the first commercially available WTA, meaning its prices were set and they had customers BEFORE WC or Mothers Milk were on the market. No need to lower your prices to compete if people are already buying your product at its current price, and happily (Think Apple. I can buy comparable Windows or barebones machines and android tablets for much less than anything with an 'i' in front of it, but Apple does not NEED to compete on their prices, they have a customer base no matter what).

I'm ASSUMING the 29.50 on the Aroma site for the unflavored 24mg is a 15ml bottle? (I dont know, its not in stock and doesnt show me which size is that price). If that is the case, the WC in 24mg at 15ml is actually 20.95 I do believe, so the price difference really is not THAT great. Far from 'twice the price' anyway. The 10.95 is for 6mg, not 24 :)

I, however, am much more fond of availability than origin. I have no desire to find myself liking Aroma as I rarely see the unflavored in stock, so I ordered WC. If it doesnt quite 'do it' for me, I might stalk Aroma and see if theirs does. If WC works, I know I can get it, even if I have to preplan on the shipping/order processing time, which has moe value to me than much else does. I cannot manage more than 3-4 hours on nic alone, I quite seriously start losing it. So, that's my logic on the 'why' for WholeCig, for any value it has :)
 

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Etheral, if you can grasp programming concepts and not afraid to make mistakes, Google has some tutorials for developing on Android.

My weekend plans are look for a house. Contact Realtors, and try to get the house for as close to budget as we can. Nearby Home was last sold in 95 for 85k, they are asking 200k now. Hoping we get approval for the house.
 

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Etheral, if you can grasp programming concepts and not afraid to make mistakes, Google has some tutorials for developing on Android.

My weekend plans are look for a house. Contact Realtors, and try to get the house for as close to budget as we can. Nearby Home was last sold in 95 for 85k, they are asking 200k now. Hoping we get approval for the house.

Top, best of luck. Sometimes realtors can be a major pain in the bottom. Just keep thinking positive, good thoughts and vibes are sure to help in this situation.
 

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Thanks Top.

Just a quick update, stress tests suck lol

How did you do? Pass go and collect $200? When I flunk mine they slap my you know what in the hospital for 3 days for monitoring or an angiogram (or plasty). Hope you passed and are on the mend.

Did they stick you on a treadmill? The stress test they did on me recently was done by sonogram or something on a computer at the hospital because my back was too bad for me to walk it. Those ones are not too bad. The thalium (glow in the dark) ones are the worst - they last almost all day. Hate those.

I have a feeling you will do well. You are a survivor.
 
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Congrats Thaya!

well, the house we liked was removed from the market. not sure if someone is buying it (think so, since it was only listed for ~9 days), or they are going to relist later.
found a new house in a different town (not exactly where we wanted to be, but can sell the house and move if we have to, or pay the out of district fees for child.) that is 2 more bedrooms, 2 more bathrooms, and WAY cheap. not sure why its so cheap.. not a terrible neighborhood. a "block" away from the ymca (house accross the street, house behind them, then cross the main road) where i could get a family pass and take child swimming as often as he wants. or i could work on getting myself to be healthier and actually work out (rather than the seasonal wood splitting i do now, which i think works fine for me. lets me burn off the bottled emotions from the winter months). but not sure if we would be able to look at the house or not. in talks with girlfriend and her dad to see if they want to see if we can get a look at the inside and decide if we want it or not. looks like it may need some roof work, but even with the roof work and any renovations we need to make in the house, we should be well below even 30k for the house. 6 bedrooms (master is 21' x 19' !!) 3 bathrooms, plenty of space and extra rooms that are not bedrooms. large 3 car garage. not sure on how big the yard is. i just may be too optimistic. or too good at crunching numbers and underestimating the time it would take us to fix things.
 

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Top. That house is worth a look, if you can get inside. I would pay a good contractor to come with you, even if he wants $200 to do it. Just so you know for sure if it needs electrical, foundation, mold/water damage work. It can be a money pit if a big problem is there. The saying of 'if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is a bad move' is to be used here with this large of a purchase. You do not need a house that is unsafe/unhealthy to live in. Believe me, home repairs are very expensive. Go check out prices for sheetrock, 2x4s, etc. If it needs roof work I bet there is water damage after the winter we have had. Good luck on the house hunt!

Congrats Thaya!

well, the house we liked was removed from the market. not sure if someone is buying it (think so, since it was only listed for ~9 days), or they are going to relist later.
found a new house in a different town (not exactly where we wanted to be, but can sell the house and move if we have to, or pay the out of district fees for child.) that is 2 more bedrooms, 2 more bathrooms, and WAY cheap. not sure why its so cheap.. not a terrible neighborhood. a "block" away from the ymca (house accross the street, house behind them, then cross the main road) where i could get a family pass and take child swimming as often as he wants. or i could work on getting myself to be healthier and actually work out (rather than the seasonal wood splitting i do now, which i think works fine for me. lets me burn off the bottled emotions from the winter months). but not sure if we would be able to look at the house or not. in talks with girlfriend and her dad to see if they want to see if we can get a look at the inside and decide if we want it or not. looks like it may need some roof work, but even with the roof work and any renovations we need to make in the house, we should be well below even 30k for the house. 6 bedrooms (master is 21' x 19' !!) 3 bathrooms, plenty of space and extra rooms that are not bedrooms. large 3 car garage. not sure on how big the yard is. i just may be too optimistic. or too good at crunching numbers and underestimating the time it would take us to fix things.
 

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Yea Thaya! Have fun with it.

Good luck on the house Top. It is so much better to own than rent IMO. I've found a lot of the devil is in the details with houses too good to be true. You're buying the financing more than the house sometimes. It took me 5 years to find mine. No regrets. I hope it doesn't take you that long.

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My internets out again. Grrrr. So I'm bored and communication limited. I don't remember who it was here that suggested I look at android but TY - TY - TY! I settled on LG G3 and its been a lifesaver. I can do more with my phone than I can on my computer in some areas. Instantly cut the tv cord. Who knew so much was on the phone? Anyways all is well.

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Yes, I'm ok. Only person in the vehicle, now I get to try and stay out of jail and keep a job of some kind. And yes, there was alcohol involved.

I'm glad you were ok but ouch. A step back for sure.
Expensive little lesson if I recall from 2 of my neighbors experiences.
 
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