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Andri exactly, that is exactly what I did! Haha

I had to look back, to see what I said :D -- you mean about vaping like a maniac to get rid of the nasty cigarette taste? :lol: This last time around, when I found myself doing that, I knew it was time to give the cigarettes the heave-ho again, since I clearly had brought myself back to appreciating the taste of vaping a lot more than the taste of smoking -- that's why I went ahead and quit even though I was still at 5 a day; those 5 were more compulsion than actual desire, and also I wanted to shut up that 3 yr old in my head -- "is it time?" "Is it time NOW?" "How about NOW?!?!" -- with "how about NEVER, you whining BRAT!" :D I was really amazed at how that brat really did shut up, once I took the smoking option completely off the table.

This whole week is a counting-off exercise for me, since I'm past the smoke-free days that I was at when I had my appendectomy (110) but not yet at the number of days successfully reached before I smoked again -- 115 -- I smoked on what would have been day 116, so once I get to *117* I will have surpassed my previous best -- and then it'll only be a few more days till I hit 4 months. :D

Thank god for WTA!!!! :thumbs:
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Andria, so awesome! Wow has it been that long already? Time just flew by..
Great job, seriously! Almost to a new mark! Keep it up girl!

Am still doing good myself! I think I need to change some flavors though, since I am almost chain vaping I get used to the flavors and and my taste buds are screaming at me!
 

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Andria, so awesome! Wow has it been that long already? Time just flew by..
Great job, seriously! Almost to a new mark! Keep it up girl!

Am still doing good myself! I think I need to change some flavors though, since I am almost chain vaping I get used to the flavors and and my taste buds are screaming at me!


Are you still using the WTA? I just got some new 25mg unflavored, and yesterday morning I discovered a whole new benefit of WTA -- I've been having some problems with my breathing lately, with that ejuice that bothered my lungs so much, then the cold, and especially in the mornings it's been a problem, trying to vape, vape, vape, without getting the wheeze wheeze wheeze -- yesterday morning when I topped up my carto tank, I put a half-ml of the 25mg WTA in it... and it was flat out amazing how little I felt the need to vape, yet still remained satisfied; it suited my morning asthma a GREAT deal better than the chain-vaping thing. So I may be using the WTA a great deal longer than I had intended, until my asthmatic lungs are really healed from 39 ys of smoke -- maybe a year? If it helps me to vape less but still feel satisfied, that's a real bargain as far as my lungs are concerned. :thumb:

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Got my 69 today and I love this thing.
As I said before, I roll at .5. I dont really drop below that in ohm because that is my sweet spot.
So far not hot button or anything,
Took a little tweaking to get it working but not much. But will leave current tank on it, so that will diminish need for future adjustments.
Like it so much I ordered a second one from Fasttech. Really love the feel and the performance.
Only had ONE problem.

The tube's two components, inner and outer sleeve for telescoping, were SO tight from the factory, I had to use pliers to loosen them.
But I was reminded of a life hack I wanted to share with y'all for when you too come across a similar situation.

When you have two threaded metal components screwed together so tightly you can't loosen them, sticking them in the freezer might help.
Heat causes metal to expand, ergo the colder it is, the more it shrinks.
So I threw the tube in the freezer for a while and that made the difference, allowing me to separate the tubes.
The shrinking is marginal, but when you are trying to separate two threaded pieces, that tiny little bit of shrinkage can make a world of difference.

What made me think of this was this: My dad used to be a mechanic. He was at my grandfather's house one day, and my grandfather was trying to replace wrist pins in his pistons. They were brand new and weren't quite fitting. But it wasn't that they were the wrong size/part. It was in the marginal +/- variance that comes when you are working with machined parts. So my dad told him to put them in the freezer. Sure enough, an hour or so later the wrist pins went right in the hole.

So just passing that on. It sure helped me today.
 

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yeah, freezing things works pretty well. freeze unused food.. freeze hard drives for an attempt at one last data pull before the drive is really gone.. freezing metal.. getting tongue stuck to spoon forgotten in ice cream box...

i cant sleep. :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b95oyhSd5ls this is what keeps going through my head lol.
 

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Im about to try it again myself but have developed some kind of insomnia. I am not quite at Edward Norton tier insomnia but this scene makes SO much more sense to me now. I am probably 75% there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdmnS-MtXI
Some nights I can. But most nights lately I don't. Gonna lay down and try it again. One of three things will happen. 1) I'll actually pass out, which happened a couple days ago. 2) I will fall asleep and wake back up in 30-60 minutes, in which case is a toss of the dice as to whether I will awaken refreshed or more groggy than I am at present. or 3) my eyes will pop open as soon as my head hits the pillow.

I like that about the hard drive though.

yeah, freezing things works pretty well. freeze unused food.. freeze hard drives for an attempt at one last data pull before the drive is really gone.. freezing metal.. getting tongue stuck to spoon forgotten in ice cream box...

i cant sleep. :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b95oyhSd5ls this is what keeps going through my head lol.
 

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Im about to try it again myself but have developed some kind of insomnia. I am not quite at Edward Norton tier insomnia but this scene makes SO much more sense to me now. I am probably 75% there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdmnS-MtXI
Some nights I can. But most nights lately I don't. Gonna lay down and try it again. One of three things will happen. 1) I'll actually pass out, which happened a couple days ago. 2) I will fall asleep and wake back up in 30-60 minutes, in which case is a toss of the dice as to whether I will awaken refreshed or more groggy than I am at present. or 3) my eyes will pop open as soon as my head hits the pillow.

I like that about the hard drive though.

I've suffered SOOOOOOOOOOOO much insomnia in my life, I can completely relate. Have you tried sleeping on the couch? For a while, I simply could NOT fall asleep in bed, but I'd lie down on the couch just 'cause I was so tired, and be out like a light. I called it my "sneaking up on a nap" strategy. :D Whatever works, right? ;)

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Good idea. I might try the floor though. sometimes I like sleeping on the floor. As you said, whatever works right. At present, I am just kind of excited to overcome this and make it work for me. I am suspect with all the changes in my life lately, this might be an ongoing thing. So there is a part of me that wants to figure out how to discipline myself and my mind to be able to function. Honestly, when we were young, we would stay up all night and work the next day. Our minds were excited about something. And we were able to function. So it IS possible. I did finally zonk out at about 3:30 and woke up at 8:30. Not bad, I think. Five hours isn't bad. Better than the three or four I have been getting this week.

I used to polyphase. That is a sleeping strategy where you end up sleeping about 2 hours a day but trick your mind into getting the rest it needs. (Your body doesn't but you manipulate biology a little to make sure you get sufficient REM for your brain's sake.) Anyways, long story short, I know it is manageable. Just still adjusting and this week has been in that all day half-awak/half-asleep. I dont mind being up until 4am and getting up at 7, as long as I can make some kind of progress during my awake time.

I've suffered SOOOOOOOOOOOO much insomnia in my life, I can completely relate. Have you tried sleeping on the couch? For a while, I simply could NOT fall asleep in bed, but I'd lie down on the couch just 'cause I was so tired, and be out like a light. I called it my "sneaking up on a nap" strategy. :D Whatever works, right? ;)

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Good idea. I might try the floor though. sometimes I like sleeping on the floor. As you said, whatever works right. At present, I am just kind of excited to overcome this and make it work for me. I am suspect with all the changes in my life lately, this might be an ongoing thing. So there is a part of me that wants to figure out how to discipline myself and my mind to be able to function. Honestly, when we were young, we would stay up all night and work the next day. Our minds were excited about something. And we were able to function. So it IS possible. I did finally zonk out at about 3:30 and woke up at 8:30. Not bad, I think. Five hours isn't bad. Better than the three or four I have been getting this week.

I used to polyphase. That is a sleeping strategy where you end up sleeping about 2 hours a day but trick your mind into getting the rest it needs. (Your body doesn't but you manipulate biology a little to make sure you get sufficient REM for your brain's sake.) Anyways, long story short, I know it is manageable. Just still adjusting and this week has been in that all day half-awak/half-asleep. I dont mind being up until 4am and getting up at 7, as long as I can make some kind of progress during my awake time.


My major problems with sleeping have been a) suffering from anxiety disorders for most of my life; b) being a "night-owl" by nature; and c) having, I strongly suspect, a longer-than-24-hr diurnal cycle; mine seems to be more like 28-30 hrs. For many years I solved it by sleeping in "shifts" -- get to bed about 3am; get up at 6:30am to get the kid ready and breakfasted and off to school; go back to bed around 10am and sleep till 3pm-ish, so I was awake when the kid got off the school bus. In effect, my "nap" was at night, and my main sleep in the daytime, and that worked for me, because I've never had a problem going to sleep for a nap, so when I'd get to bed about 3am, I'd tell myself, time for a nice little nap before I have to get the kid going; then at 10am, it was daytime so it *seemed* like a nap, even though it was my longer, main sleep.

Once the kid grew up and I didn't have to do the mommy morning thing anymore, it took a few years, but now I can go to bed at 3am and sleep straight thru till 11 or 12 -- it's like being on vacation or something. :D

As for being able to sleep the same as when you were "young"... to that I'd say "dream on" -- pun intended. :D Sleep is very different for mature bodies, and seems to be an ever-changing phenomenon. I will say though, that from my reading on the subject, chronic insomnia is actually a major health problem, which can have long-term and enduring negative ramifications. When you're sleeping, your body, and particularly your brain, is doing some important metabolic things, and without a sufficient number of hours, toxins build up and cause damage, and the effects of that damage actually shorten lives considerably, and even without considering the shortening of a life, that sort of damage also leads to very negative things like geriatric dementia -- senility. As you age, you may not need quite as many hours of sleep as growing bodies need, but if you don't get enough, you really are doing your whole body, and particularly your brain, a massive disservice. For anyone past 30-35, 6 hrs in every 24 is considered a minimum necessary; more would be better, but not as necessary as to young growing bodies.

Probably the best thing I ever did for my sleep, is also one of the most disappointing things in my life: my husband and I can no longer share not only a bed, but even a bedROOM; he snores like a freight train going 60mph, and jumps and wiggles all night long -- it's like being married to a jack-in-the-box that pops up every 3 minutes. :facepalm: He had a sleep study done, and the doc said, "do you know you move about 20 times an hour?" And my husband said "yes, because my wife times me, as she's trying to go to sleep, and says I jump every 3 minutes." :facepalm: Considering the 3am screaming matches, we really did our marriage a favor by moving to separate bedrooms... but I still hate it. But even when I think, well maybe he doesn't do that anymore, and try to sleep with him... I end up going back to my own bed a few hours later, because it's either that or suffocate him with a pillow! :D

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Actually just got up from a 45 min nap myself. Feeling a little groggy but awake. I figured my body was just going through adjustments and figured just go with it. I'll get used to whatever happens. Because it does seem to be a natural process. I'm not forcing myself to stay awake or anything.

With that being said, I do agree with you. Sleep is important for all the listed reasons. One thing interesting that I found while polyphasing for a time though was that you are able to manipulate your sleep by using your own normal biology. When a person becomes sleep deprived, the brain recognizes that its own health becomes primary and important. REM sleep is when your brain does most of its self-maintenance, but it doesn't make up the whole of your sleep. You go through stages of sleep, and your body concentrates on different things at different areas. But the more sleep deprived you are, the more the brain skips the other phases of sleep and jumps to REM, because the brain will break down a lot quicker than the body will without sleep. The less sleep you are getting, the quicker the brain goes into REM and the longer it stays there.

So the theory behind polyphasing is to set a sleep schedule that uses this biological function to the advantage of reducing sleep and maximizing actual functional awake time. The method is taking a 20-30 minute nap every 4-6 hours. The recommended nap schedule is 20 min naps every 4 hours. But I found that 30 minutes every 6 hours worked better for me. Thing is, once you get into the schedule, you MUST keep to it. If you alter it too much, it will throw the whole thing off, resulting in basically passing out for 10 hours. But by doing this, you maximize REM sleep. You are basically going to be ONLY sleeping in REM state. After adjusting to the schedule, it allows you to maximize basically 22 hours of awake time per day. The cost is you have effectively cut out all the other stages of sleep where other systems of your body are repairing themselves.

So even trying this out for a short period of time (usually just for kicks) is okay, but def not recommended as a permanent way of life. It's very dangerous and hard on the body.

In practice, it isn't quite as easy and "lifehack" as it sounds. First, you have to actually make the adjustment. The body and brain won't just skippidy-do into this new sleep schedule without putting up a fight. It takes a lot of willpower to get started. Also, you have to go through a period of sleep deprivation before the self-preservation default settings of the brain kick in. Basically, this means that you won't automatically drop into REM until the brain realizes it's sleep-deprived enough to do so. This takes about 2-3 days. So making the change, you are facing 2-3 days of going absolute zombie. For me, day 2 1/2 is like being stoned. Thoughts are disjointed. Short-term memory is so stressed that you lose track of what you are doing while you are doing it. You can almost instantly forget things. You feel somewhat euphoric, but you also have this "I feel so disconnected to everything, even my hands....wow, look at my hands....that's trippy." When I say it's like you are stoned, I mean it's like you are stoned. Not quite as psychedelic as ..., but pretty darn close.

Then your brain finally gets the point and kicks in the REM sleep. You go to sleep and hit REM right away and stay there the whole 20/30 minutes, until your alarm goes off and wakes you up. At that point, you feel pretty fresh, even excitable, for most of the day.

The biggest drawback to the whole thing is that while you are up for 22 hours and functionally awake, you are spending 1/2 that time managing your sleep schedule. You have to work around nap times that are non-negotiable. And while most of the time, you will feel super-awake, considering you are only getting 2 hours of sleep a day, you won't always wake feeling so refreshed. So you have to work in an exercise routine that allows you to raise your heart rate and "get the blood going" when you wake up so you can actually maintain that "fresh" feeling. You can't exercise to the point of exhaustion. Just enough to give you that little "high" and get the body moving and awake.

Then you have to adjust your diet to keep your food light. You have to avoid any food that is heavy on digestion and causes you to "food-coma," because while you get momentum in this thing, a misstep can cause you to oversleep through your 20/30 minute alarm, which results in the 10 hour pass out. You have to avoid anything that "helps you sleep." This includes avoiding any kind of (forgive me but saying this as nicely as possible) avoiding any kind of "passionate" release or satisfaction. Because we all know after that, people tend to pass out. So you have to cut that out as well. And you deal with gearing down a few minutes before the nap. Gearing up after the naps. Like I said, you end up using most of that "added time" maintaining this sleep schedule.

It's fun to try. It's a nice tool to have in the tool-shed for when you come into those weeks in life where you know you can't sleep anyways, so might as well do those things that will help me stay functional.

Or, as in my case, it taught me that though my natural sleep schedule is obviously going through a season of change (whether temporary or permanent) I can do things that will help my brain to adjust to it and realize my brain WILL adapt to it. It is causing this in the first place, not my own manipulation of sleep. But until then, I am going to go through some zombie states. Just annoys me because I have so much going on right now. If I am going to be up until 3-4am anyways, I would like to be able to make use of the time.

But no complaining. In all things be content. And a reminder to self - your brain will adjust. Either that or you will switch back and this is all temporary.

I dont know why I am saying all this. Perhaps just making conversation. lol I don't really have a real point here.

My major problems with sleeping have been a) suffering from anxiety disorders for most of my life; b) being a "night-owl" by nature; and c) having, I strongly suspect, a longer-than-24-hr diurnal cycle; mine seems to be more like 28-30 hrs. For many years I solved it by sleeping in "shifts" -- get to bed about 3am; get up at 6:30am to get the kid ready and breakfasted and off to school; go back to bed around 10am and sleep till 3pm-ish, so I was awake when the kid got off the school bus. In effect, my "nap" was at night, and my main sleep in the daytime, and that worked for me, because I've never had a problem going to sleep for a nap, so when I'd get to bed about 3am, I'd tell myself, time for a nice little nap before I have to get the kid going; then at 10am, it was daytime so it *seemed* like a nap, even though it was my longer, main sleep.

Once the kid grew up and I didn't have to do the mommy morning thing anymore, it took a few years, but now I can go to bed at 3am and sleep straight thru till 11 or 12 -- it's like being on vacation or something. :D

As for being able to sleep the same as when you were "young"... to that I'd say "dream on" -- pun intended. :D Sleep is very different for mature bodies, and seems to be an ever-changing phenomenon. I will say though, that from my reading on the subject, chronic insomnia is actually a major health problem, which can have long-term and enduring negative ramifications. When you're sleeping, your body, and particularly your brain, is doing some important metabolic things, and without a sufficient number of hours, toxins build up and cause damage, and the effects of that damage actually shorten lives considerably, and even without considering the shortening of a life, that sort of damage also leads to very negative things like geriatric dementia -- senility. As you age, you may not need quite as many hours of sleep as growing bodies need, but if you don't get enough, you really are doing your whole body, and particularly your brain, a massive disservice. For anyone past 30-35, 6 hrs in every 24 is considered a minimum necessary; more would be better, but not as necessary as to young growing bodies.

Probably the best thing I ever did for my sleep, is also one of the most disappointing things in my life: my husband and I can no longer share not only a bed, but even a bedROOM; he snores like a freight train going 60mph, and jumps and wiggles all night long -- it's like being married to a jack-in-the-box that pops up every 3 minutes. :facepalm: He had a sleep study done, and the doc said, "do you know you move about 20 times an hour?" And my husband said "yes, because my wife times me, as she's trying to go to sleep, and says I jump every 3 minutes." :facepalm: Considering the 3am screaming matches, we really did our marriage a favor by moving to separate bedrooms... but I still hate it. But even when I think, well maybe he doesn't do that anymore, and try to sleep with him... I end up going back to my own bed a few hours later, because it's either that or suffocate him with a pillow! :D

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It's funny that you mention that it's not as psychedelic as that particular substance, because most of the actual hallucinations I've suffered have been from lack of sleep, not substances. When I used to suffer a lot with depression, I often had marathon wakefulness -- 63 hrs one time -- and I'd start to see the little black creeping things in my peripheral vision. ;)

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I had heard something similar about Edison too.

It works when it works, I guess. All I know is that this time around, without trying to make it work, it's kinda working. I think I am starting to get past the half-awake/half-asleep stage. Will see how tonight goes.

Perhaps I was trying too hard before lol

Some historically important person (Einstein perhaps?) used that sleeping briefly every 6 hours schedule. You actually get to live more of your life that way instead of sleeping through 25%-30% of it... assuming you don't eventually pass out in your Cheerios. ;)
 

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Yeah, it censored it but I meant to say Tee Ach See. But I know what you are saying though. I didn't get it that bad. Then again, I didn't go 63 hours with no sleep.

One thing I found if you are going to polyphase (or just facing insomnia) is that it helps to have stuff to do at your normal sleeping time. You may not be able to sleep, but some part of your brain is geared to sleep at that time. So I found that when I would normally have my deepest sleep is when I would struggle the most. It helped to have stuff to do to keep moving. Amazing how the body responds when you focus it on something. ONly thing is you can't have anything too mentally engaging at first. Save mindless chores through the day for when you are at the sleepiest but sleepless part of the night. I am remembering that and using it to my advantage.

Andria, you did bring up before about HALT. I have been very conscious of the T part (tired) this last week. I have been doing really good vaping. Except for those two slips, one on the 6th and one on the 7th, I haven't smoked since the 5th. Thank God, I haven't had any real bad cravings since the tiredness came on me. But your words helped me mentally prepare myself.

I am keeping my eRoll handy with WTA, and getting that "cigarette" feel both chemically and physically/habit-side-of-smoking.

Also got to get a new vaping convert today.
Close friend of mine was visiting today. I had been talking to him about vaping for a while. He tried a BT/convenient store ecig. He liked it but not enough to be sold on it. So after talking him up here and there over the last month and sellling him on vaping, I PIF'd him my old eGo-C system (battery, cone, attys and tanks/cartridges) and a bottle of juice. Seems he is really gonna get on it this time.

It's funny that you mention that it's not as psychedelic as that particular substance, because most of the actual hallucinations I've suffered have been from lack of sleep, not substances. When I used to suffer a lot with depression, I often had marathon wakefulness -- 63 hrs one time -- and I'd start to see the little black creeping things in my peripheral vision. ;)

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Yeah, it censored it but I meant to say Tee Ach See. But I know what you are saying though. I didn't get it that bad. Then again, I didn't go 63 hours with no sleep.

One thing I found if you are going to polyphase (or just facing insomnia) is that it helps to have stuff to do at your normal sleeping time. You may not be able to sleep, but some part of your brain is geared to sleep at that time. So I found that when I would normally have my deepest sleep is when I would struggle the most. It helped to have stuff to do to keep moving. Amazing how the body responds when you focus it on something. ONly thing is you can't have anything too mentally engaging at first. Save mindless chores through the day for when you are at the sleepiest but sleepless part of the night. I am remembering that and using it to my advantage.

Andria, you did bring up before about HALT. I have been very conscious of the T part (tired) this last week. I have been doing really good vaping. Except for those two slips, one on the 6th and one on the 7th, I haven't smoked since the 5th. Thank God, I haven't had any real bad cravings since the tiredness came on me. But your words helped me mentally prepare myself.

I am keeping my eRoll handy with WTA, and getting that "cigarette" feel both chemically and physically/habit-side-of-smoking.

Also got to get a new vaping convert today.
Close friend of mine was visiting today. I had been talking to him about vaping for a while. He tried a BT/convenient store ecig. He liked it but not enough to be sold on it. So after talking him up here and there over the last month and sellling him on vaping, I PIF'd him my old eGo-C system (battery, cone, attys and tanks/cartridges) and a bottle of juice. Seems he is really gonna get on it this time.

That's great about your friend! That HALT thing was always really handy for me, early in sobriety; when I'd get a craving, I'd take a little inventory and figure out exactly what was going on that triggered the craving, and it was nearly always something in HALT -- and do you know, sometimes at sundown, I still get that old feeling -- happy hour. :facepalm: Now I just grab a snack, but that time of day was always a huge trigger for me -- by sundown, most days, most people are probably at least hungry and tired, so bang, instant craving.

That 63 hr gig was a really bad phase in post-partum depression; hormonal mayhem plus new parent anxiety. You know what I was doing, for almost the entire 63 hrs (when I wasn't doing baby duty, that is)? Learning MS-DOS, and writing unbelievably complex batch files. :facepalm: Also it was my very first exposure to the online world, with amateur BBS's in Pontiac, MI, circa 1990. So at least I had something instructive and entertaining to do! :D

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Awesome you were able to turn that depression into something positive. I kinda got something similar going on. I mean, I am not in a depression. But the sleeplessness.

That's great about your friend! That HALT thing was always really handy for me, early in sobriety; when I'd get a craving, I'd take a little inventory and figure out exactly what was going on that triggered the craving, and it was nearly always something in HALT -- and do you know, sometimes at sundown, I still get that old feeling -- happy hour. :facepalm: Now I just grab a snack, but that time of day was always a huge trigger for me -- by sundown, most days, most people are probably at least hungry and tired, so bang, instant craving.

That 63 hr gig was a really bad phase in post-partum depression; hormonal mayhem plus new parent anxiety. You know what I was doing, for almost the entire 63 hrs (when I wasn't doing baby duty, that is)? Learning MS-DOS, and writing unbelievably complex batch files. :facepalm: Also it was my very first exposure to the online world, with amateur BBS's in Pontiac, MI, circa 1990. So at least I had something instructive and entertaining to do! :D

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Well a week ago tonight (last night since its after midnight? ) I got my sigelei box mod and 4 raffle tickets to win one of every bottle of juice in store or a mech mod/rda/ drip tip. I won the mech mod kit. Will post pictures later. Girlfriend didn't think I would win. Probably would have won the cloud comp if they drew the raffle first so I had a mech to use. .. wouldn't let me use my sigelei :(
 

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That, sir, is awesome. Congrats to you. I always like it when people I am in contact with win contests, because it shows me that I can just as easily win too. So super congrats and thank you very very much for sharing.

I have an entry in at MFS for teh sigelei 100watt box, if anyone is interested in trying out for that . I THINK you can still enter.

EDIT: Nope,. just checked. Someone already won that on.

Well a week ago tonight (last night since its after midnight? ) I got my sigelei box mod and 4 raffle tickets to win one of every bottle of juice in store or a mech mod/rda/ drip tip. I won the mech mod kit. Will post pictures later. Girlfriend didn't think I would win. Probably would have won the cloud comp if they drew the raffle first so I had a mech to use. .. wouldn't let me use my sigelei :(
 

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The mod is a sir Lancelot. The atty is a vulcan. I like the look of them. That's all that matters, right? Lol.

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