SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4

[MattB101]

You'd understand me. Spent the first 38 years of my life in Chicago. The last 17 in North Carolina. I will never lose my Chicago accent but also cannot help but to pick up the southern lexicon. I fought it at first and then came to realize some of their words work better.

Believe it or not, after living 40 years in Virginia my family in Florida say I sound like a redneck! Just goes to show you how much Florida has become New England South. More folks from up north than born there!

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

 

[MattB101]

Ha! I'm an Army brat and was born in Ft. Bragg myself. Only lived there for about a year. Then went to TX, CA, Germany, SC, AK, CO and finally moved to Jax, FL in '76. I'm not sure what kind of accent I have but it really doesn't matter as I have had several women tell me that they love my voice.

Hi Jax, I was born 90 miles south of you (Daytona Beach). Joined the Navy in 1975 and have been mostly in Virginia ever since. Moving back to Florida in a couple of months. Not going to fool around either, moving to Deerfield Beach (just slightly North of FT. Lauderdale).

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[jaxgator]

Mine wouldn't wick my high VG juice worth a damn without a generous amount of Rayon on the deck. I tried everything imaginable, forked tails, super thin tails in the holes, thick tails in the holes, fan tails above the holes, against the walls, away from the walls, etc. I even tried completely removing the wick and coil and it still wouldn't flood the chamber!

The flavor is still fantactic, but the cost is through the roof! At a modest $75/hour shop rate, I have over $2,000 in this tank so far!

Dayum! I vape high VG liquids (70+) at higher wattages (22-26w) and have tried just about every method mentioned in this thread and it just doesn't seem to want to keep up. I was going to ask if you might be able to do your mods on my KF4 but I guess I cannot afford it.

 

[MattB101]

Dayum! I vape high VG liquids (70+) at higher wattages (22-26w) and have tried just about every method mentioned in this thread and it just doesn't seem to want to keep up. I was going to ask if you might be able to do your mods on my KF4 but I guess I cannot afford it.

Read lots of posts, both here and on other forums, that pretty much say the V4 has a difficult time with high VG juices. Anything 70% and above. Somebody (of course can't remember who) was saying they vape 100% VG (allergic to PG) and just flat can't get it to work for them. Talking authentic not clone too.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

 

[BNEAT]

Dayum! I vape high VG liquids (70+) at higher wattages (22-26w) and have tried just about every method mentioned in this thread and it just doesn't seem to want to keep up. I was going to ask if you might be able to do your mods on my KF4 but I guess I cannot afford it.

If I knew exactly where the log-jam was, I might be able to make an affordable modification. But I have a feeling it's a cumulative effect, sorta speak. I'm pretty sure every path the juice travels has to be widened to get to where I am now. These tanks just weren't engineered to do what I'm wanting them to do.

 

[jaxgator]

Read lots of posts, both here and on other forums, that pretty much say the V4 has a difficult time with high VG juices. Anything 70% and above. Somebody (of course can't remember who) was saying they vape 100% VG (allergic to PG) and just flat can't get it to work for them. Talking authentic not clone too.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

Yeah, I tried it with some 50/50 and it works just fine. I guess I'll have to only use that ratio in my KF4.

If I knew exactly where the log-jam was, I might be able to make an affordable modification. But I have a feeling it's a cumulative effect, sorta speak. I'm pretty sure every path the juice travels has to be widened to get to where I am now. These tanks just weren't engineered to do what I'm wanting them to do.

Same here. I guess I am just asking too much out of it with the higher VG and wattage. Oh well, like I said to Matt, I guess I'll just relegate it to the only 50/50 juice I vape. That's ok as I have enough Erls that do keep up with my juice ratio & wattages.

 

[scratchtheweasel]

I get it - the KF's are not designed to sub-ohm, etc, etc. Even though they do sell s sub-ohm kit (hrm...). However, if this is really the expected use of the KF's I predict they are going to suffer over the long haul along with Provape. Not trying to troll for a flame war here. There are still lots of people (majority?) who are happy with < 20W and > 1.0 ohms. I am not personally a high wattage vaper - my sx mini has never gotten very far above 40W even when I'm using the quasar RDA on there. However, 0.5 ohms and 30W sure look like the new normal to me.

I am pushing the limits a bit perhaps with .7 to .8 ohms on the KF and I'm using the upper end of the wattage range for the P3, but it's a 50/50 juice and these should be within the tolerances of these devices. Mind you I'm sure my build and wicking method has a lot to do with the feed issues and I am pretty sure I can sort it out and find a sweet spot for at least my intended use, but the number of other folks that seemed to be having similar problems says something I think. I'm not ragging on the KF4 - it's great and I'm sure it will make many folks happy (hopefully including me), but I think the manufactures that dominated two years ago have some work to do.

Just as a point of comparison - my Taifun GT II with a similar build and resistance works beautifully and has a nice AFC on the outside of the tank that I can spin to dial up to the max or down to a tight draw at a whim. I have many more miles on the GT's than I do on KF's so it's perhaps not a fair comparison, but so far I have yet to find much of anything the KF4 is doing better than the GT. Well it fits the P3 nicely...there is that.

Apologies in advance for the crank - it was a long night fighting with the KF.

 

[PeteW]

I have been using some 70/30 VG/PG juice in my K4 for a few weeks now, and had been getting the occasional dry hit. Yesterday I tried the wicking method that is shown in this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rta/641394-mummy-wick-hope-you-like.html ,and it's been wicking perfect ever since. I'm using a 1.35 ohm "Clapton coil" at 34 watts. You'll need some KGD cotton for it, however.

 

[snow blind]

I have been using some 70/30 VG/PG juice in my K4 for a few weeks now, and had been getting the occasional dry hit. Yesterday I tried the wicking method that is shown in this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rta/641394-mummy-wick-hope-you-like.html ,and it's been wicking perfect ever since. I'm using a 1.35 ohm "Clapton coil" at 34 watts. You'll need some KGD cotton for it, however.

I personally find much more low resistance wicking luck in "nest" style builds (there are a ton but the most known has to be the navy). I've tried topped coils on and off for years and every time it mutes the flavor and vapor. That vapor ends up bouncing off the top wick portion before entering your mouth/lungs... IMPO it's nowhere near as clean or effective as "nesting" with a simple ring of cotton around the top of the Kayfun chimney base like so...

all the wicking benefits of the "mummy" wick with none of the airflow impedance and flavor muting. I personally use less cotton that the pic above (not my pic) and most of the time just over the wick channel areas.

 

[b.m.]

You should check each and every hole. There are folks with a lot of Tobeco K4 experence here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rta/634516-attack-kayfun-v4-clones.html#post14830076

Yeah,it was too early,that's the thread i thought i was in haha.

 

[kas122461]

I finally got my Kayfun V4 ordered about an hour ago, they were out of the P3 connector but at least I now have one on its way.

KAS

 

[HBcorpse]

I finally got my Kayfun V4 ordered about an hour ago, they were out of the P3 connector but at least I now have one on its way.

KAS

I know it's not always fun to order from multiple places, but...

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epage...tPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/SM-KFV4-09

 

[kas122461]

I know it's not always fun to order from multiple places, but...

SvoeMesto Kayfun V4 P3 Hybrid Connector - Cloud 9 Vaping

Yeah Intaste has it also, I am just going to wait though, this order after everything I ordered, was almost $300.00. I can wait for next month, I can still use it on my TI with the 510, I am just glad I am finally getting one.

KAS

Wow I did not expect this, I just got my tracking number.

 

[Kaoself]

The modded KF4 looks excellent, BNEAT! I'm super impressed. How much difference did drilling the vertical juice holes to the deck do? I've been tempted to try and mod mine to increase juice flow a little, and that certainly seems the biggest restriction.

Dayum! I vape high VG liquids (70+) at higher wattages (22-26w) and have tried just about every method mentioned in this thread and it just doesn't seem to want to keep up. I was going to ask if you might be able to do your mods on my KF4 but I guess I cannot afford it.

How is your air flow, jax? I've had a 0.6ohm parallel in the last week vaping at up to 30W with 70vg juice, and there haven't been many wicking issues. Though my airflow is set for mouth his approximately KF3.1 tightness. I don't imagine it would be that successful with wide open air though.

 

[KTMRider]

Yeah, I tried it with some 50/50 and it works just fine. I guess I'll have to only use that ratio in my KF4.



Same here. I guess I am just asking too much out of it with the higher VG and wattage. Oh well, like I said to Matt, I guess I'll just relegate it to the only 50/50 juice I vape. That's ok as I have enough Erls that do keep up with my juice ratio & wattages.

One thing you can try is to add a few drops of distilled water in your high VG juice. That's what I've been doing and it works great.

 

[Ryry0678]

Depending on how viscous your 80vg juice is, you could have some problem drawing enough juice into the chamber with the 4s wider airflow, and get dry hits.
Pull enough wick through the coil so that there is some resistance but not too much (a bit vague, I know), fluff the wick ends a little, and cut them off approximately 3mm outside the chimney.

What wicking material and coil diameter are you using?

Kgd and 3mm. Starting to think this isn't made for temp sensing.



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[jaxgator]

How is your air flow, jax? I've had a 0.6ohm parallel in the last week vaping at up to 30W with 70vg juice, and there haven't been many wicking issues. Though my airflow is set for mouth his approximately KF3.1 tightness. I don't imagine it would be that successful with wide open air though.

I like an open draw so I removed the afc screw. I know that that's detrimental to wicking but it's just the way I like to vape. Quite honestly, even with the afc screw removed, it is still not enough air flow for me. I've been waiting on the S4 kit to come back in stock and it finally did yesterday so I ordered that.

Quite honestly, I am pretty new to the KF world. I only used my KFL+ and 3.1 es for a few weeks and never really did get the wicking down completely. I'll get it. I went through a week or two trying to sort out the wicking with my Erls but finally nailed it. I also have removed the afc ring and installed the 2mm posi pole holder in all of them and they seem to be able to handle heavy VG and higher wattages.

One thing you can try is to add a few drops of distilled water in your high VG juice. That's what I've been doing and it works great.

Thanks KTM. I've seen that mentioned before but have yet to give it a try.

 

[AngiBe]

Better late to the party than not at all

HUGE difference in threads, using JC and about everything else w/Authentic. Taste is awesome and well worth the wait. Using the JC and getting to the deck was a small learning curve (yes, I will admit, when playing around with it I some how opened the deck with juice control open and juice went all over.LOLOL) but once I got it, simple to do.

Thanks again for all the tips and helping me out with my frustrations on even getting to the deck. Alls good...for now.

 

[HBcorpse]

Better late to the party than not at all

HUGE difference in threads, using JC and about everything else w/Authentic. Taste is awesome and well worth the wait. Using the JC and getting to the deck was a small learning curve (yes, I will admit, when playing around with it I some how opened the deck with juice control open and juice went all over.LOLOL) but once I got it, simple to do.

Thanks again for all the tips and helping me out with my frustrations on even getting to the deck. Alls good...for now.

Woohoo!!! A well deserved triumph!!!
It sounds like you've got it down, but in case you need a reminder:
The motion of putting it ON your Provari is the motion to turn ON the juice.
The motion of taking it OFF your Provari is the motion to turn OFF the juice.

 

[AngiBe]

Woohoo!!! A well deserved triumph!!!
It sounds like you've got it down, but in case you need a reminder:
The motion of putting it ON your Provari is the motion to turn ON the juice.
The motion of taking it OFF your Provari is the motion to turn OFF the juice.

LOL this ^^^^^^ is a perfect description for a space cadet like me

ETA-bcoz clockwise and counterclockwise is just too difficult