Tampa woman injured by exploding 18650 cell
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I have had second degree burns and yes they are painful for a while but not worth a fuss imo. Reporting is good if it is accurate and not sensationalized. I miss the days when reporters actually knew something about what they were reporting and not just reading a script.
Unfortunately true, but don’t blame the reporters for that. They’re under constant pressure to deliver material, and it’s not like they get paid to do serious fact checking. On the contrary, most of them don’t even get reimbursed anymore for out of pocket expenses if they wanna do a little investigating.
I agree that is the reality but doesn't justify unreliable reporting. The networks have the money to step up and we are frankly too willing to put up with it.
I'm assuming that battery cases hold the batteries separately so that a nick in each one couldn't contact the other? Or, polarity - wise, that wouldn't be a problem?
I think that even if their poles would touch each other, nothing happens. The way they are designed, only two poles can simultaneously touch each other, and that doesn’t create an electrical circuit.
I don't mean to question the woman's integrity or anything, and okay she had a witness-- related to her.
I GUESS it's possible for the purse to explode but it looks more to me, given where the burns are, that she was holding the mod between her legs. Oh wait, was there a video? I can't remember.
I will say, you can get a "battery" education and still miss some salient facts like "make sure battery case is completely latched," or even, "Don't sit around with the mod between your legs it may autofire.
It's extraordinarily hard to educate on battery and mod safety 100% after a first purchase, it just can be. I mean it's a lot to absorb and a very slight "miss" of ONE thing can result in large problems.
Gah, I'm starting to think it's batteries that will be regulated like crazy. IDK. It's really unfortunate for the woman, the vape shop and I have a great deal of sympathy WHATEVER happened.
I will also say, I wish this woman had been sold an ego style battery or something. It's a lot easier and safer to LEARN to drive in a Volvo, not a Lamborghini. I know. My parents extensively bought up a bunch of Old school Volvos for their kids to learn to drive in and then gift them to said kids for their first car. I didn't LOVE my Volvo but never actually got harmed in one.
Not as fun, perhaps, but not as dangerous either. I did the same thing with my kid, he got an Aged Pontiac that probably weighed more than all our other cars combined. When he had his first accident I was Rather Glad because he hit a parked truck at high speed, and had 0 injuries. The car was totaled, but he was unharmed.
Sigh.
Anna
I GUESS it's possible for the purse to explode but it looks more to me, given where the burns are, that she was holding the mod between her legs. Oh wait, was there a video? I can't remember.
I will say, you can get a "battery" education and still miss some salient facts like "make sure battery case is completely latched," or even, "Don't sit around with the mod between your legs it may autofire.
It's extraordinarily hard to educate on battery and mod safety 100% after a first purchase, it just can be. I mean it's a lot to absorb and a very slight "miss" of ONE thing can result in large problems.
Gah, I'm starting to think it's batteries that will be regulated like crazy. IDK. It's really unfortunate for the woman, the vape shop and I have a great deal of sympathy WHATEVER happened.
I will also say, I wish this woman had been sold an ego style battery or something. It's a lot easier and safer to LEARN to drive in a Volvo, not a Lamborghini. I know. My parents extensively bought up a bunch of Old school Volvos for their kids to learn to drive in and then gift them to said kids for their first car. I didn't LOVE my Volvo but never actually got harmed in one.
Not as fun, perhaps, but not as dangerous either. I did the same thing with my kid, he got an Aged Pontiac that probably weighed more than all our other cars combined. When he had his first accident I was Rather Glad because he hit a parked truck at high speed, and had 0 injuries. The car was totaled, but he was unharmed.
Sigh.
Anna
It's actually pretty hard to short stick batteries without trying.
I'm amazed change in a pocket seems able to do it so readily. Positive touching quarter touching a penny touching a quarter touching a dime touching a penny touching negative doesn't seem like the most resistance free short.
Actually I read about a week ago by some sort of lithium battery expert (it was an article online, I think about airlines and batteries) that brand new lithium batteries can explode after about two recharges. I believe he was talking about a defect not caught by the manufacture which only shows up after a few recharges.
So this lady should play the lottery? Of course rare and random things happen, and the media likes to jump on rare and random things to create fear uncertainty doubt, but odds are there's more to the story and there's a reason that's not "quality battery has manufacturer defect missed".
sorry, this is a grossly misinformed conception, the anatomy of a lithium can battery leaves the negative terminal ( the entire body of the cell ) only a millimeter or two, from the positive terminal. a small tear or opening in a very thin plastic shrink wrapper, which could be initiated by any piece of metal with a sharp edge, think coin, pocket knife, thumb tack, DIAPER pin, whatever, could result in a short.
the above image shows just how close these two terminals are in proximity. It can happen in an instant. These are not designed to be consumer grade products...
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as is typical around here, we have zero information on what REALLY happened in this case. and predictably, we have the assinine darwin posts, armchair speculation, etc.
people sometimes do absent minded things, are preoccupied, and even lie, without being there when any incident happens, all we can do is assume and guess, and when we assume... ... ...
people sometimes do absent minded things, are preoccupied, and even lie, without being there when any incident happens, all we can do is assume and guess, and when we assume... ... ...
Is this a quiz? Me like quizzes....
It's a good point. 95% + of 18650 devices must be box mods these days.
Curious. Is any 18650 tube mod classed as a pen? Good question.
Without knowing all the facts, it's impossible to determine what caused the explosion. I'm not going to speculate as to whether it was a battery fault or user fault. All that I will say is that I have been vaping for almost 9 years and I have never had a problem with a battery.
Truth is we will never know what actually happened. It is reasonable these days to be skeptical.
sorry, this is a grossly misinformed conception, the anatomy of a lithium can battery leaves the negative terminal ( the entire body of the cell ) only a millimeter or two, from the positive terminal. a small tear or opening in a very thin plastic shrink wrapper, which could be initiated by any piece of metal with a sharp edge, think coin, pocket knife, thumb tack, DIAPER pin, whatever, could result in a short.
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the above image shows just how close these two terminals are in proximity. It can happen in an instant. These are not designed to be consumer grade products...
Except a break in the wrap has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said.
You know what does? Checking the ohms of a pile of change. You know what I've done before? Checked the ohms of a pile of change and it is very low resistance so I certainly wouldn't ever recommend anyone carry a battery in a pocket with a pile of change. It just SEEMS like something that would take all the planets aligning just right to happen.
Keys are really bad. Almost a solid connection for a long distance.
My key ring with emergency pill containers might even be able to make the completed circuit by themselves.
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