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I'd be interested to hear how the drip tip connection holds up after a few fills. Does it become loose?

I have a tank and after about 3 fills it doesn't take much for the tip to fall off with the pressure of my mouth. Another downside I found with this one is that I left it in the car for about 45 min. and the outer tube was sliding all around...eek! lesson learned, lol.
 

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I just started on my fourth or fifth refill (yikes! no, I haven't vaped the whole tank before refills). The entire fit and function are the same as the first. Since you don't replace the drip tip, there's not an issue on the tip connection. And since it is attached to the carto directly, I don't expect a problem there. I also had entirely 'clean' refills on the last two wet fills, so the first may have been newbie error.

Today I'm off from work so I'll be slotting a mega cart and a dual coil cart. I already see a potential problem there after a dry fit, but I'm going to do it anyway. The problem is that the regular 510 cart/drip tip combo that this is built for has a natural stopping point. If you slide the tank up (toward the drip tip) it stops when it hits the drip tip. The megas and duals that I have are longer, so the slide to the stopping point is longer. As a result, it slides WAY up the cartomizer before stopping. That could push the tank past the slots.

Well, those preliminary tests were without liquid in the tank. I'll post more on that after trying.
 
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Thanks for the review....

My pleasure!

I ran out of time for the dual coils (tomorrow, I promise) but wanted to answer a couple of my own questions.

Perhaps there is an O-ring compressed between two pieces on each side? ... With the cartomizer removed, I don't know if I can take off the top or bottom caps.

The answer is yes on both counts. There is a ridge along the inside of the top and bottom pieces. These are the ridges which keep the liquid in the tank and squeegy the cartomizer as it's inserted or withdrawn. They also are the ridge that hits the drip tip, preventing it from easily becoming dislodged. Maybe you can see it in this pic:

Liquinator_Seal.jpg

Regarding disassembly, it's easy. Just twist and separate:

Liquinator_Parts.jpg

Tomorrow will be the dual coil test.
 
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Dual Coil Test

Using the original cartomizer received with the Liquinator as a guide, I used a Dremel to cut the slots on a 1.6Ω SMOKtech dual coil cartomizer I received from Clouds of Vapor. Here it is on the ProVari with my tools in the background:

Liquinator_DC-ProVari.jpg

It's about 1/4 - 1/2 inch longer than the regular cartomizer. The next picture shows the cartomizer in its OPEN position with one of the slots showing, and it looks pretty much exactly the same as the normal cartomizer.

Liquinator_Open.jpg

The next picture validates what I already suspected. The longer length of the cartomizer means you can slide the tank up the cartomizer beyond the slots since it only stops at the drip tip. That's not to say you can't use it, but it doesn't 'automatically' stop at the best place. The good news is, even when I slid it past the slots, liquid did not come gushing out of the cartomizer. In fact, almost none did (the ring on the white paper is from my liquid bottle). I guess because the polyfill acts as a sponge.

Liquinator_DC-Closed.jpg

If you have a ProVari, you know that it limits the amp draw, so I could only get the dual coil to fire up to 4.2v. That's as designed, so it's neither a fault of the PV or the cartomizer. Well, 4.2v on a LR dual coil is a lot of vapor. Not a ton of throat hit, but plenty o' vapor.

So I had to break out my GGTS to test it at 6v (2xLiFePO4).

Liquinator_GGTS.jpg

Holy Guacamole! I'm not a huge fan of dual coil cartomizers (yet), but there's plenty of TH and vapor to satisfy.

So there you have it. These work great on the supplied cartomizer as well as the longer, dual coil cartomizer. They work better with standard sized cartomizers because that's what they're designed to use. They 'click' into place, up or down. With the longer cartomizers, the Liquinator performs just fine, but you'll have to actually look at what you're doing or you can slide it too far.

Let me know if you have questions.
 

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Thanks so much, Wylie! That's even neater than I thought!

I'm going to follow along here to see how you like it. Do you think its travel friendly?

Depends on how you define travel friendly. After three days, I haven't had a drop of leakage that I didn't cause. Or if you take it off the device with the tank closed, you'll get a drop out of the atomizer hole.

I personally won't travel through airport security with it filled, but I will be taking one or two with me when I travel.

Nice find ! Tank that doesn't use failomizers ! See if you can cut down a dual coil to fit it !

Reading back through this, I guess I could have cut off the top of the dual coil to avoid the 'too long for the slot' issue. I may even try that later, but it seems like a lot of work for little benefit.
 

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I don't understand the concept of this thing at all.

It's huge and ugly. Wouldn't it make more sense to just carry around an extra carto or two instead of that monstrosity?

I agree with you in that it is not aesthetically pleasing to the eye, however the VapeMate (by SuperTmanufacturing) is a curious looking little device that does keep your cartos wet and is so easy to use and clean. These tanks are not as solid as the VapeMate which has no moving parts. Just MHO.
 

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Thank you, Boges are my favorite so that is good to know. With the GLV I had to use an adapter with the map tanks, I'm thinking that using the dual coils with the slots just a tad higher and the cartos sticking out the bottom more could eliminate that, thus one less place to leak or clog.
 

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I have seen several people state that trying a carto with a tank leaks no matter how small the hole is.
The slots in the picture look fairly large. I am wondering, do you expose the slots just long enough to
soak the batting and then pull tank back up to close off slots? I believe you if you say it works, but
why do several others say the juice just soaks right through until it leaks out the bottom of carto?
 

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I have seen several people state that trying a carto with a tank leaks no matter how small the hole is.
The slots in the picture look fairly large. I am wondering, do you expose the slots just long enough to
soak the batting and then pull tank back up to close off slots? I believe you if you say it works, but
why do several others say the juice just soaks right through until it leaks out the bottom of carto?

Good questions, and I don't know if I can answer except that I have two separate tanks. Neither has leaked from the top, bottom, or sides. I've used three different cartos-- the supplied ones, a dual coil from COV, and a Mega from IKV. None have leaked. I've used approximately four juices-- PG/VG 70/30, All VG, and PG/VG 20/80. No leaks there, so it's not the viscosity.

The slots I made on the DC and Mega were using a standard Dremel 1.5" metal disc. I'm not sure how thick that is.

On the 'slide up/slide down' I did do that when I first got them, because I thought they might leak. For the last four days I've pretty much left them in the open position. No leaks.

I'm not presenting my finding as 'the proof' at all, just as a consumer who wanted to try them. I tried to find other reviews, but didn't see any so I can't comment on any others' experience yet.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: I've also taken both tanks apart and reassembled without any vaseline or anything. So that's not the trick, either.

EDIT2: Also, I've used them on a Riva, a ProVari, a Barleby, and a GGTS without a drop. So I don't think it's just my PV(s).
 
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