TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance

[dleister1981]

no it supports exactly what i said, at least what i meant even if i didnt communicate it well, and my only mod that doesnt support TI wire is the sigelei 150 TC, which is a Yihi chip, not cheap chinesse poop- moderately priced chinesse poop. hate teh language filter

 

[vapealone]

no it supports exactly what i said, at least what i meant even if i didnt communicate it well, and my only mod that doesnt support TI wire is the sigelei 150 TC, which is a Yihi chip, not cheap chinesse poop- moderately priced chinesse poop. hate teh language filter

Well, if it supports what you meant then problem solved.
What do you mean that the Sigy doesn't support Ti?
Because if it means that there is no predefined Ti profile it doesn't mean that you can't use it with Ti.

 

[Landman]

Call me crazy but I can't understand why one would want more than 2 of any tank/mod out there. I guess I am just one of the people that prefers variety. Rather than having a whole pile of STMs I have a whole little collection of different RTAs (Cthulhu, Zeph, billow v2, gob mini, aroma, Goliath v2, Bellus). The STM was a fine tank but once I got to making advanced builds those little screws just weren't cutting it anymore. Once you go posts it's hard to go back.

Hmm, maybe to keep multiple juices on hand, maybe for extended trials of different builds, or like in our case, to keep from having to fill up a tank while traveling in a car for 10-14 hours. Also, it keeps from refilling/building as often... it was hard enough getting the wife to finally quit cigarettes and if she had to build, wick, etc herself, she'd go back to cigarettes in an instant. It's easier to have a handful of tanks and when she's on the last one, I just fill them all at one time and be done with it. I've had her try different tanks because I still buy a couple of whatever's new, but she consistently goes back to the STPlus.

 

[dleister1981]

Well, if it supports what you meant then problem solved.
What do you mean that the Sigy doesn't support Ti?
Because if it means that there is no predefined Ti profile it doesn't mean that you can't use it with Ti.

thats all i mean is theres no predefined profile, i still use TI on it

 

[pbanj]

Hmm, maybe to keep multiple juices on hand, maybe for extended trials of different builds, or like in our case, to keep from having to fill up a tank while traveling in a car for 10-14 hours. Also, it keeps from refilling/building as often... it was hard enough getting the wife to finally quit cigarettes and if she had to build, wick, etc herself, she'd go back to cigarettes in an instant. It's easier to have a handful of tanks and when she's on the last one, I just fill them all at one time and be done with it. I've had her try different tanks because I still buy a couple of whatever's new, but she consistently goes back to the STPlus.

I use to have a crap ton of protank 2s for trying flavors. I ended up giving them away after I got my stm

 

[2legsshrt]

Yeah my reason for the STM's I like the way they vape and I have 7 different flavors going. They are all built the same with Ti so all I have to change is the resistance because they aren't all exactly the same but the rest of the settings stay the same. I use 3 SXM's I have 2 SXM's stored and 4 STM's stored one has Kanthal for my S that I use in bed. As far as the wire thing I think I understand one wire changes resistance at a different rate then the other so with manual TCR setting you don't have to deal with that. I never tried different resistance Ti coils on Ni mode always the same so I didn't have to deal with changing up or down.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

what i mean is TC mods use an increase in resistance to guess temp, you make a NI coil at .05 ohms, and the chip expects to see an increase in resistance of a % of that number, and then you make a coil at .25 ohms from NI200 and the chip will expect the same % increase, lets just say its 25% for arguments sake, so the .05 ohm would see an increase of .0125 ohms, and the .25 ohm would see an increase of .0625, but TI doesnt work with the same % increase as it goes up as it heats,lets say TI has an increase of 32%, means that the higher resistance the TI coil is teh bigger the gap gets in real resistance even though both %'s are respectivly the same

thanks for the TC 101 tutorial...lol!

 

[WharfRat1976]

Unkamen 317L is...........GPLAT WIRE. Vapes the same, flavor the same, texture the same. Responds well to TC. Nice vape. I liked "GPLAT" as well. Basically it's common welding wire with a zillion% markup lol.

24g/3mmID/6/5 duals came in at .15.
Running in Ti mode on my ipv4s.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Unkamen 317L is...........GPLAT WIRE. Vapes the same, flavor the same, texture the same. Responds well to TC. Nice vape. I liked "GPLAT" as well. Basically it's common welding wire with a zillion% markup lol.

24g/3mmID/6/5 duals came in at .15.
Running in Ti mode on my ipv4s.

yup...it is the same!

317L GPlat Sub-Ohm Wires 10m Spool – Grey Haze ECig Store

read the guff in the text box!

 

[GeorgeS]

Hmm, maybe to keep multiple juices on hand, maybe for extended trials of different builds, or like in our case, to keep from having to fill up a tank while traveling in a car for 10-14 hours. Also, it keeps from refilling/building as often... it was hard enough getting the wife to finally quit cigarettes and if she had to build, wick, etc herself, she'd go back to cigarettes in an instant. It's easier to have a handful of tanks and when she's on the last one, I just fill them all at one time and be done with it. I've had her try different tanks because I still buy a couple of whatever's new, but she consistently goes back to the STPlus.

Sometimes a tank is just 'eh' and I'll likely never get another copy. Other times I may find myself chain vaping or simply wishing a 'favorite' is empty so I could refill with something else I'll find myself getting more copies.

While the "also rans" end up in the junk drawer fairly quickly sometimes the slow shipping times from Chinese vendors prompt me to buy something local while growing inpatient on a shipment. The trend (if I like the tank) is to have more than one copy so I can use it with different juices on different mods at the same time.

There are lots of reasons to have more than one copy as there is to have ONLY one copy.

Cheers!

 

[dwcraig1]

Besides just being out of control? Like me.

 

[Mactavish]

You only have to worry about mystery stuff when it comes to clones lol. All those "colored" ones on fasttech lol.

The only things not to "worry" about are things you made or built yourself.

 

[WharfRat1976]

My 317L from Unk is not going into TC mode. Hitting hard in Joules mode Ti 01 on my ipv4s but no dry coil message and not sensing temp roll back at all. Here is my build again. Anyone else experience this?

 

[AtmizrOpin]

My 317L from Unk is not going into TC mode. Hitting hard in Joules mode Ti 01 on my ipv4s but no dry coil message and not sensing temp roll back at all. Here is my build again. Anyone else experience this?

would that even work in ti01 mode on the 4s? .0010 compared to .0040(or somewhere around those numbers) tcr is a big gap. have you tried to see if it burns your dry cotton at the lowest temp setting, 212F?

 

[vapealone]

My 317L from Unk is not going into TC mode. Hitting hard in Joules mode Ti 01 on my ipv4s but no dry coil message and not sensing temp roll back at all. Here is my build again. Anyone else experience this?

would that even work in ti01 mode on the 4s? .0010 compared to .0040(or somewhere around those numbers) tcr is a big gap. have you tried to see if it burns your dry cotton at the lowest temp setting, 212F?

I am afraid that no TC will engage in Ti mode w/ 317 below 350(ish)°C /660(ish)°F for 317's TCR is even lower than 316's.
As a result,
Ti's TFR is 1.283 @ 100°C /212°F which is the lowest TFR you can set in Ti mode
and 317's TFR still only 1.2535 @ 327°C /617°F

Bottom line:
A proper Ti profile can cap your coils temp around 350(ish)°C /660(ish)°F but this is it. You still can get dry burns just a limited ones
Ni mode is out of question

 

[WharfRat1976]

I am afraid that no TC will engage in Ti mode w/ 317 below 350(ish)°C /660(ish)°F for 317's TCR is even lower than 316's.
As a result,
Ti's TFR is 1.283 @ 100°C /212°F which is the lowest TFR you can set in Ti mode
and 317's TFR still only 1.2535 @ 327°C /617°F

Bottom line:
A proper Ti profile can cap your coils temp around 350(ish)°C /660(ish)°F but this is it. You still can get dry burns just a limited ones
Ni mode is out of question

Thanks for this. Makes sense. So just enjoy in power mode. My Mephisto never dry hits anyway and I am not vaping any higher than 500F....I like 350F-450F...gets me where I need to be.

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[WharfRat1976]

would that even work in ti01 mode on the 4s? .0010 compared to .0040(or somewhere around those numbers) tcr is a big gap. have you tried to see if it burns your dry cotton at the lowest temp setting, 212F?

I have not tried this.

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[Eric Auer]

I didn't realize that the difference between SS430 and SS317 would be that big.

Eric

 

[cigatron]

I didn't realize that the difference between SS430 and SS317 would be that big.

Eric

So big that I can run 430ss on my Evic VT60 in Ti mode. But that's because the Evic underheats by about 80-100°f in Ti mode. Not complaining though....I'm lovn it set to 280°f.

 

[vapealone]

I didn't realize that the difference between SS430 and SS317 would be that big.

Eric

TCR in vaping range:
317: 0.0010X - 0.0008X decreasing
430: 0.0013X - 0.0014X increasing
TFR in vaping range:
317: 1.09X - 1.25X
430: 1.14X -1.43X
Not huge but big enough if you can't set TCR/TFR data