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I hope you explore Titanium more thoroughly. I have spent my life developing titanium alloys for high temperature application in gas turbine engines and have over the years devoured virtually every word in the scientific literature relating to titanium and titanium dioxide.

I am unaware of a single case where titanium dioxide was associated with harm to a human being both in the processing industry for the raw metal or in facilities that produce titanium dioxide for consumer products such as paint, toothpaste etc. It's unfortunate that people who exposed themselves to true harm through long term smoking of tobacco do not have valid information or do not take the opportunity to find the information that is available about the relative dangers of materials used in smoking alternatives such as vaping.

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Duane, we are very fortunate to have you on our team and always welcome your valuable knowledge on such subjects! :thumb: :toast: :vapor:
 

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I have come to understand that the reason for the extra battery sag with the 18650's might be because of the lighter gauge wire that they used to connect the battery sled to the board.
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They seemed to have done a really great job with everything else, it doesn't make sense.
Lol, for real!!??? What gauge are those wires, 22, 24? Wow just.....wow. I know I'm late in replying but had to say sumpin on that blunder from wismec.
 

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Lol, for real!!??? What gauge are those wires, 22, 24? Wow just.....wow. I know I'm late in replying but had to say sumpin on that blunder from wismec.
My Samsung batteries were suppose to be here today, they show arriving in Orlando Thursday morning but nothing after that. I tested the Mxjo batteries individually and was able to get 36+ amps from them pulsed. That was much better than I expected, I expected 33 or less. I'm pretty sure the wiring is to blame. For me It won't matter too much as I vape at around 50 watts max but I may change the wires at some point just because it bugs me.
 

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Lol, for real!!??? What gauge are those wires, 22, 24? Wow just.....wow. I know I'm late in replying but had to say sumpin on that blunder from wismec.
I'm no mod making hereo but those wires look under-spec'd for that task!
Maybe the Vaporflask guys can give them a few pointers in there impending collaboration! Or maybe they will use the average guages..?!?!?
 

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What? Unless it's oxidized why should Titanium be more harmful than Nickel, considering it's used daily in implants all over the world? Is this true or it's a joke I'm missing? Honest question, not trying to flame or anything.
Yep I think Ti is probably the safest one around what I read is that Ti dust if inhaled is more harmful then nickel but there isn't any of that involved. I don't dry burn Ti and won't until they really find out something but using it and washing it with hot water seems to work for me. I'm changing my attys back to all Ti. I will say the my NiFe coils I took out were still pretty clean. They were black but no gunk to speak of. I hope I didn't start something about Ti being harmful because I like it. I was starting to get kind of a sore throat from the NiFe but probably just my imagination. I love the way the Ti works and seems to last really well and it's not that big of a hassle using it. I'm still wondering what is the best Ti01. I know Busardo is a fanboy of Sweet Spot but he is also a fanboy of the DNA200. I think he likes the SS because they provide a csv file for their wire then I hear people say it is actuallly TI02. I don't know. There is so much different info on ECF you start to wonder what to believe. I believe Dr. Ruckle
 
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Yep I think Ti is probably the safest one around what I read is that Ti dust if inhaled is more harmful then nickel but there isn't any of that involved. I don't dry burn Ti and won't until they really find out something but using it and washing it with hot water seems to work for me. I'm changing my attys back to all Ti. I will say the my NiFe coils I took out were still pretty clean. They were black but no gunk to speak of.


Please provide links for your reference that titanium dioxide is more harmful than nickel. I have not seen this in over 35 years of familiarity with the scientific literature for titanium and it's compounds.

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Please provide links for your reference that titanium dioxide is more harmful than nickel. I have not seen this in over 35 years of familiarity with the scientific literature for titanium and it's compounds.

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It was Google and I forget the site but if you believe everything in Google you will eventually find out something you are doing is leading you to death, but hell everything is leading you to death anyway, thats where we all go eventually. Duane I think you are right about Ti I might even try heating it a little more the next time I clean it, I'm just not sure how I should go about it, turn it up to 600F and pulse it since the SX will kick out Dry Coil or use a low Wattage in power mode. I still love it even though it is a little harder to work with then NiFe.
 

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I do wish I knew for sure if using NiFe48 dry burning it and all was also safe. As safe as Ti. It seems like Duane knows a hell of a lot more about Ti then me and I believe him hope I didn't start anything.
I personally would not be concerned about dry burning NiFe alloys or kanthal by standard techniques. I think dry burning should be done at the lowest temperature that will remove the organic deposits for any coil material. The reason is that excessive thermal exposure can be harmful to the mechanical properties of the coil. I do not believe that inhaling the smoke emitted from the coil during the dry burning operation is a good idea much as inhaling the smoke from a steak being barbecued is not advisable. Smoke from burning organics have been shown to be harmful. (witness smoke from burning tobacco);)

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Well let me ask you this Duane which do you think is safer Ti or NiFe. I am trying it at the same temp and power. I am a fairly low power vaper and I am using both at 420F 18J The Ti is .28ohms the NiFe is .195ohms. The vape is very nearly the same.
I don't think there are the slightest safety issues with either Ti or NiFe unless one has an allergy issue.

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OK well I think with trying them both I actually like the Ti better. I don't know what it is exactly but it has a cleaner taste with my juice and seems less harsh. I don't know if it is the spaced coil or what but I think I will stick to Ti for now had to try the NiFe after all the talk about it. It is easier to work with but I have done so many Ti coils that it is not that difficult. I don't use anything fancy just a 5 wrap 3mm 26awg coil but it works for me. Thanks
 

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Which uses more power lower resistance or higher resistance coils? I am thinking lower resistance because the amperage is higher even though the voltage is less but IDK
All other things being equal, only amps matter. You answered your own question!
 
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