TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance
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Yes indeedy, I have the 2380T.
You don't really need to telescope the one time unless you are stacking batteries though, like 2 x 18650(I still need to try this out and snap a few pics, lol)
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I though about trying it but it's basically a billy club at that point... So huge. People are gonna think you're compensating. [emoji23][emoji23]
Oh goodness, I would never go anywhere with it, lol
I just want to do it for fun, and of course to take some crazy side by sides [emoji14]
Double fisted vaping FTW
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Yes indeedy, I have the 2380T.
You don't really need to telescope the one time unless you are stacking batteries though, like 2 x 18650
I got the 2380. In the end that was my only (in stock) option, but I had already decided to get that anyway - I figured that I would likely run it single battery most of the time, and if I was going to want it dual battery I'd be at home and in a position to swap out pieces, so better to have separate pieces than always have extra metal in use when it's not needed. Plus the more mechanisms in work (telescoping etc) the more to one day go wrong.
I'll have to find a special velvet cushion and/or display plinth to keep my spare tubes on.
Actually I'd completely forgotten that I could use an 18500 as well. I suppose that would make it quite short(er). Then again I don't know if that involves restrictions on wattages? Besides which I don't have any 18500s so I can't see myself buying them just to use in this mod and no other.
Ok so I returned it and will hopefully be able to exchange for the 2380. I think I would have regretted not doing this although maybe my OCDness is a bit OTT lol!
Now running the Calix with Ti on the VS SXK clone. Trying at the moment with NP set to 70 and using T=320. Will try NP at 35 later when I have got the wicking right on this bloody thing!!
Now running the Calix with Ti on the VS SXK clone. Trying at the moment with NP set to 70 and using T=320. Will try NP at 35 later when I have got the wicking right on this bloody thing!!
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I wanna see pics of your build. For me, the Calix is fairly easy to wick (non-direct feed is the way to go, so wicks don't block the channels) and then you just barely open liquid control, and adjust that as needed.
I'll snap a pic of a rewick next time I do it. I would like to see how you are doing yours though. No need to overdo or over think it, and when I say you barely need to open LC for indirect feed, I really mean barely
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Lot of vapemail today
My SXK VS arrived. Works fine, doesn`t ask for new or old atomizer and has the 0.04 Ohm issue - 0.04 is the difference to my KX VF Mini and the Mini has a 0.02 Ohm too high reading ( I tested all may TC boxes for static resistance by a shorted dripper ). So I´m not sure whether it`s 0.02 or 0.04 Ohm offset.
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I played a bit with your calculator, which worked perfekt, but an SS coil made some problems. Don`t know why, but the Magma doesn`t vape much. The TC worked immediately. Will check that later. Ti on a Kayfun V4 worked better than on my other boxes.
At the moment I would say, that the SXK works with Nickel builds as good as the KX Mini ( which seems to work better than the Hcigar DNA or Waidea ).
I couldn`t withstand, I had to open it, but I couldn`t see any signs of a manufacturer.
My SXK VS arrived. Works fine, doesn`t ask for new or old atomizer and has the 0.04 Ohm issue - 0.04 is the difference to my KX VF Mini and the Mini has a 0.02 Ohm too high reading ( I tested all may TC boxes for static resistance by a shorted dripper ). So I´m not sure whether it`s 0.02 or 0.04 Ohm offset.
@TheBloke
I played a bit with your calculator, which worked perfekt, but an SS coil made some problems. Don`t know why, but the Magma doesn`t vape much. The TC worked immediately. Will check that later. Ti on a Kayfun V4 worked better than on my other boxes.
At the moment I would say, that the SXK works with Nickel builds as good as the KX Mini ( which seems to work better than the Hcigar DNA or Waidea ).
I couldn`t withstand, I had to open it, but I couldn`t see any signs of a manufacturer.
Great stuff Rudi! So can you elaborate on the ohms offsets you are seeing? You said 0.04 but at what base resistance is that? What should the coil have read (according to other mod/ohms reader) and what did it read?
Also @TheotherSteveS did you get a chance to notice any ohms offsets at higher resistances? Eg what is the offset for a 0.50 Ωcoil or a 0.7Ω coil or similar? Still 0.04 always?
Because our current understanding is that the higher the start ohms, the higher the offset - as per @balazsk 's findings. Would be great to know if this is the same for everyone still, or if you guys are seeing only a 0.04 offset in all cases.
Also @TheotherSteveS did you get a chance to notice any ohms offsets at higher resistances? Eg what is the offset for a 0.50 Ωcoil or a 0.7Ω coil or similar? Still 0.04 always?
Because our current understanding is that the higher the start ohms, the higher the offset - as per @balazsk 's findings. Would be great to know if this is the same for everyone still, or if you guys are seeing only a 0.04 offset in all cases.
Lot of vapemail today
My SXK VS arrived. Works fine, doesn`t ask for new or old atomizer and has the 0.04 Ohm issue - 0.04 is the difference to my KX VF Mini and the Mini has a 0.02 Ohm too high reading ( I tested all may TC boxes for static resistance by a shorted dripper ). So I´m not sure whether it`s 0.02 or 0.04 Ohm offset.
@TheBloke
I played a bit with your calculator, which worked perfekt, but an SS coil made some problems. Don`t know why, but the Magma doesn`t vape much. The TC worked immediately. Will check that later. Ti on a Kayfun V4 worked better than on my other boxes.
At the moment I would say, that the SXK works with Nickel builds as good as the KX Mini ( which seems to work better than the Hcigar DNA or Waidea ).
I couldn`t withstand, I had to open it, but I couldn`t see any signs of a manufacturer.
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Bejeeezus look at that earth link wire flapping about in the wind
That's a short waiting to happen
Cant tell for sure in the pic or not, is it sleeved in clear shrink wrap
It don't look like it
@funkyrudi - re SS, can you give more details on what you did?
Base coil resistance, NP setting, temp setting, and spaced v contact coil?
Note that when I vaped SS I always used NP 10 and 11 - I did not try adjusting the NP for low resistance, as I last vaped SS before I made the calculator. But 'little vapour' does not sound like a NP setting, because too low NP = TP too fast, and you can't go lower than 10. So your NP is either right, or too high, and too high would not give no vapour
So I tihnk it's an issue with the build?
Note that if you do a contact coil - or any part of the coil touches - you need to pre-pulse the coil several times to oxidise it. It won't function for TP until it has been pulsed a few times.
Base coil resistance, NP setting, temp setting, and spaced v contact coil?
Note that when I vaped SS I always used NP 10 and 11 - I did not try adjusting the NP for low resistance, as I last vaped SS before I made the calculator. But 'little vapour' does not sound like a NP setting, because too low NP = TP too fast, and you can't go lower than 10. So your NP is either right, or too high, and too high would not give no vapour
So I tihnk it's an issue with the build?
Note that if you do a contact coil - or any part of the coil touches - you need to pre-pulse the coil several times to oxidise it. It won't function for TP until it has been pulsed a few times.
When I saw it, I couldn`t belive, but when I touched it, I could feel the clear isolation. It´s save, if there isn`t any damage of the isolation.
Oh that's good
When I saw the picture that just jumped out at me but then I thought Noooo surely not
Hum, well that's a lot better than balazsk got. Compared to what? SX Mini M with Set Resistance?
The other day I wanted to check out some possibilities to verify the static resistance of some atties like the K4 and so I started with a dripper with a fixed positive pole and shorted it on the deck. Waidea and Hcigar said immediately atomizer short and after a second push on the fire button 0,00 Ohm, but I´m still not sure whether they measured the resistance. The KX VF Mini showed atomizer short and after a second push the box asked for new or old and then measured the short with 0.02 Ohm. My quite precise ( above 0.2 Ohm) atomizer Ohm meter measured 0.00 Ohm.
So my KX Mini measured my Nickel build with 0.15 Ohm and the SXK 0.11 Ohm. So it`s the same 0.04 Ohm, but if my KX is really 0.02 to high, it`s only 0.02 Ohm
Atomizer SXK------KX M------DNA------Wai------Ohm meter
FeV Nickel 0.11------0.15------0.15------0.16-----0.09
K4 Titan 0.42------0.48------0.49------0.50------0,44
Rose Kant 0,94------1.08------1.04------1.10------1.04
Rose2 Kan 1.06------1.20------1.14------1.21------1.17
Orchfun 0.52------0.61------0.59------0.64------0.56
Taifun GT2 0.61------0.70------0.70-------0.73-------0.66
I guess my Waidea has still a ground issue
SXK short test 0.00 Ohm[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
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You`re right user error with the build. I interconverted 2 drippers and the right one with the ss coil had a loose screw - argggh. The other dripper had a Titan coil and so the TC was acting very soon.
Now I have a 0.6 Ohm 0.35mm V2A/304 SS coil set at 420F 11NP and it works fine.
I need some coloured mini dots to mark my different coil types - too many atties on the desk.
Thanks a lot for this, Rudi!
So you results are not quite as bad as @balazsk showed across the whole range. I think maybe we can discount your ohm meter readings as it seems all over the place compared to the other devices? Sometimes high, sometimes low.
How is it going with your super fancy expensive reader? You needed some new cables for it or something? I forget the name, I just remember being impressed at how much it sells for on eBay
I wanna see pics of your build. For me, the Calix is fairly easy to wick (non-direct feed is the way to go, so wicks don't block the channels) and then you just barely open liquid control, and adjust that as needed.
I'll snap a pic of a rewick next time I do it. I would like to see how you are doing yours though. No need to overdo or over think it, and when I say you barely need to open LC for indirect feed, I really mean barely
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Hi no pics at the moment but will post. I have tried both ways direct and non-direct. Boith a big fail really. Hitting TP hard immediately, some vapour but not great and no flavour really. I also dont get the airflow -t seems so much more estricted than the Apollo (not even the xtr). Its like busting a lung trying to get air through it. I have the air-holes aligned on the 510 thread etc and tghe AF screw completely removed..It really is perplexing as I had no issues at all with the Apollo but this is awful at the moment...Build is something like 6 wraps of 28g Ti spaced, around 2.5mm wicked with muji. Tried a loose wick and a tighter one but no difference..I can see it wicking in both 'modes' but it feel like something is stuck up its rear end if you get my drift...
Thnaks for any suggestions you might have. It is driving me nuts because I feel like Im doing something really dumb but I cant see what it would be...Ive built hundreds of coils by now in dozens of different devices but this one has me at a loss..
Cheers
Steve
ps. sorry to all for hijacking the thread a bit
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