TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance

[Quantum Mech]

It is as fixed as a fixed thing from rigid land.Whish would be great except see below..
i packed it up already as it just p1ss1ng me off. I fail to understand how anyone OCD or not, could put up with it. I have tried 8 RTAs and 12 different drippers and I have not found any that sit flush. The problem is the 510 thread is too shallow so even if you have an adjustable 510 on the atty it doesnt matter beacsue the pin in the mod is, in my opinion, about 0.5-1.0 mm too high. A small error if I just bought it from FT as a knock off but this thing is £140 odd. I am so disappointed. I may even just pass on the whole dicodes thing......Having said that, I think you will not be disappointed with the 2380. But why in the name of all that is holy did they put a fixed 510 in this bloody thing and then set it so high that there is no flexibility?...absolutely insane!

I hated the look on my provari 2.5 at first with a gap no matter what tank/dripper I used
The tapered top made it worse still with 22mm devices
But in time I got used to it & as it was so reliable I still have it

One thing for sure having a fixed 510 is you know you have good contact

 

[TheotherSteveS]

I'm so sorry, that sounds absolutely ridiculous

I suppose they took very literally their own recommendation that it had to be 'spring' or 'gap'. Maybe they will say that a gap makes for better TC. But of course it also makes for crap appearance, and greater risk of damage on accidental knocks.

Yeah I absolutely cannot understand why they would think it acceptable to not put a spring on a £140 device. A Fat Daddy spring loaded 510 is about £4 to end users, meaning to big companies it will be <£1; or make their own for pennies. It's inexcusable.

Sorry man. So Greek Mods will accept returns easily? Will you just return for a refund right now or think about swapping for the 2380?

I hope they will take a return. Actually they have to really - the 'cooling off period' rule which works acroos EU. It sjust the postage thing but at this point I dont care really!
I love it apart from the 510 so I am trying to swap it for the 2380 - which is what I wanted in the first place lol!! You will love it mate! Im just irritated with myself that I wnet for a fixed pin mod when I knew I should spend the extra cash...Oh well you live and learn,...sometimes! I'll post some pics in a mo. It really is pretty bad...

 

[TheBloke]

Yeah Quantum does have a point. Maybe it's worth waiting a day or two and seeing how you feel about it, Steve? Maybe you'll hate it less once it's in use.

And there's those beauty ring things (albeit not recommended by Dicodes)

Edit: then again if you're going to swap it for a 2380 then yeah that makes sense. Obviously I can't argue against buying a 2380

 

[TheotherSteveS]

I hated the look on my provari 2.5 at first with a gap no matter what tank/dripper I used
The tapered top made it worse still with 22mm devices
But in time I got used to it & as it was so reliable I still have it

One thing for sure having a fixed 510 is you know you have good contact

You know you are absolutely right in the sense that the contact will be absolutrely excellent for TP which is why I got it. But I just cant stand looking at the gap..I need therapy..!
Thansk anyway for the good vibes! Much appreciated.

 

[Quantum Mech]

You know you are absolutely right in the sense that the contact will be absolutrely excellent for TP which is why I got it. But I just cant stand looking at the gap..I need therapy..!
Thansk anyway for the good vibes! Much appreciated.

It MUST look better than this

 

[TheotherSteveS]

It MUST look better than this

lol! It does look better than that! Dear God...I am laughing out loud dude. You really cheered me up!

 

[Quantum Mech]

lol! It does look better than that! Dear God...I am laughing out loud dude. You really cheered me up!

Haha glad to be of service

 

[TheBloke]

Wait, it's not as bad as what Quantum showed? Even that doesn't look too bad to me! I was picturing 10mm gap or something (Yeah I know that's physically impossible for a 510 now I think about it!)

Show us a photo Steve

 

[druckle]

This is a little bit off topic but I'm still waiting for my skx flask to arrive and I got curious and built my standared 26 gauge 7 wrap Ti coil and put it in a Manta V2.

The resistance of this combo on my "precision"? usa ohm meter is O.243 ohms. Steam monkey tells me that the coil itself should be 0.277 ohms. The difference could be the that I didn't measure the leg length accurately enough, the diameter of my wire is a little different than perfect 26 gauge or my ohm meter is not all that accurate. but....in any case I put the Ti coil Manta on three different SX Mini M class devices and I get resistance measurements of
1. 0.201
2. 0.205
3. 0.210
All these devices were well used and I didn't clean the contacts before I put the Manta/Ti on there so the contacts could be dirty and of course there's just inherent device variation.

It seems that folks are seeing the skx board giving consistently low resistance readings and now I'm curious if this is something that is done on purpose for more than one manufacturer in the industry. Could it be a compensation for the atomizer resistance?

My engineering background is not EE and I didn't like those courses much way back when, so my thinking is rudimentary, leftover from a long time ago. But...what do you guys think?

Duane

 

[druckle]

I just measured the diameter of the "26" gauge titanium and confirmed that it's 0.055 mm bigger than standard

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Wait, it's not as bad as what Quantum showed? Even that doesn't look too bad to me! I was picturing 10mm gap or something (Yeah I know that's physically impossible for a 510 now I think about it!)

Show us a photo Steve

aww come on...I have a lovely brished SS mod and an lovelky brushed SS atty sitting 1mm apart..it sucks...maybe I really do need help...

 

[TheBloke]

Nah you don't, you're right - you've spent a hell of a lot of money on a mod it should look better than that.

 

[dems86]

Anyone concerned about 22mm attys on the 2380...they look great

23mm toppers look amazing, of course, but all my 22mm attys are sexy as hell...the wider top and bottom cap adds a certain slimming effect, and there is a nice bevel around the top cap that helps even more.

I just know some people are OCD about their 22mm attys on anything but a 22mm mod

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[TheBloke]

Looks good! What atty is that?

 

[dems86]

Looks good! What atty is that?

SquapeR with nano chimney/bell cap, and vaponaut DT (teflon feels soooooo good on the lips, ooowwweee)

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[funkyrudi]

I'm so sorry, that sounds absolutely ridiculous

I suppose they took very literally their own recommendation that it had to be 'spring' or 'gap'. Maybe they will say that a gap makes for better TC. But of course it also makes for crap appearance, and greater risk of damage on accidental knocks.

Yeah I absolutely cannot understand why they would think it acceptable to not put a spring on a £140 device. A Fat Daddy spring loaded 510 is about £4 to end users, meaning to big companies it will be <£1; or make their own for pennies. It's inexcusable.

Sorry man. So Greek Mods will accept returns easily? Will you just return for a refund right now or think about swapping for the 2380?

As far as I know, they wanted to keep liquid away from the electronic ( sitting below the 510 ). So they designed a shorter version with a fixed positive pole and a very save spring loaded longer version. I have seen a technical drawing of this 510 - but I can`t remember where :-(
Obi Oberhaus tested all 4 pre release versions ( incl. Pipeline ) in two video reviews and made a lot of measurements as usual. I thought I had seen the drawing in the video, but I can`t find it


sorry, german only

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Anyone concerned about 22mm attys on the 2380...they look great

23mm toppers look amazing, of course, but all my 22mm attys are sexy as hell...the wider top and bottom cap adds a certain slimming effect, and there is a nice bevel around the top cap that helps even more.

I just know some people are OCD about their 22mm attys on anything but a 22mm mod

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now you are just rubbing it in...lol! Nice setup! I have a squape Rs in the mail. Really excited about that.

Been fighting with a Calix all this evening. Man, that is a tough one. The bottom air flow is perplexing to say the least..Disappointed so far but will have a go again tomorrow.

Been a strange vaping day!! Having said, and in spite of all of this 'high end' gear, interesting that my poxy kangxin VF clone with a subtank and RBA with a dodgy Ni build is still one of the best vapes for me! Brilliant!

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Nah you don't, you're right - you've spent a hell of a lot of money on a mod it should look better than that.

the Greek mod guys are wonderful. I mailed and 10 mins later (about 8:30pm their time) got a reply saying stick it back in the mail and we will swap it out for a 2380. Excellent! I think I will do it. Problem is I have this really gorgeous SS tube here and I dont want to pack it up and send it away..lol!! Funny old world...

 

[TheotherSteveS]

whats the difference bewtenn the 2380 and 2380T??? duuuhhh...

 

[Arthur]

Yeah that's not wicking issues. Or rather, if it is, then it's also TC issues - the whole point of TC is to avoid problems with dry hits. If you had wicking issues alone you would see the opposite problem - a weak vape, not enough vapour. Not dry hits.

Dry hits with TC always mean a problem with the build or the settings.

First thing to do is trying lowering the temp - maybe 420, which is the burning temp of cotton (or thereabouts.)

Second thing is check the build. In particular check you have tight, strong connections on the coil to the atty. Check nothing is loose. Check the coil has no shorts anywhere.

I had a similar issue yesterday where in my Aqua SE I kept getting dry hits and because I'm vaping on my SXK with bad resistance, I was at first sure it must be a bad setting - wrong adjusted Coefficient value. But belatedly I realised I had a bad build, I actually had a short - it was right near one end of the coil so it wasn't drastically lowering the resistance, the coil was 0.40 and it read 0.37 let's say. Not enough for me to notice it was too low (especially as the SXK is always too low.) But it was causing a hot spot on the wire in that area of the coil and burning the juice.

So yeah, check your build carefully. Tighten everything done. As you're using Ni200 you don't want any part of the coil touching any other part, or of course any part of the atty. Make sure it's screwed down tightly onto the mod, obviously being careful not to overdo it.

If need be, start again with a new build.

How are you finding your 2380? I ordered mine yesterday but it only shipped today so I won't have it for several more days, maybe next Thursday at best (it's going from Germany to the UK.)

I do like it, it's a champ so far in standard mode.. And it's super solid. When I first got it I did over tighten the end cap using the wrong tube pieces for an 18650 battery and dented the top of the battery but other than that it's been great. The only other issue I have is selecting temp in tc mode, the temp down menu is kinda screwed but I can get it to sorta reset and go back up from the lowest temperature. If I think about it I was try resetting it to defaults and see if it clears that up... If it doesn't I'll probably just live with it. I dun wanna send it back and be without it... It's just so pretty and my 23mm attys look so good on it. I'm just perplexed by the temp jumping past the setting.... If I've set 450 it should just cut off, not jump to 496. And yes I calibrated it [emoji16]