TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance

[TheotherSteveS]

On that note, and if anyone is feeling fruity, try out some NiFe48 ribbon....lol!

NiFe48 Flat Wire 0.5x0.1mm / .020*.004" - AWG 30

they also have SS ribbon and all sorts of stuff to play with!

 

[pevinsghost]

@Kraken_Up, I wind all my coils as micro's and dry burn them. After dry burning they tend to end up minimal spaced. 430 is very springy to work with, but I suspect that works in its favor. I don't anneal the wire before coiling it.

The other day I wrapped three coils for three different tanks and all of them came out to 0.72Ohms and perform just great in TC mode on my DNA 40.

From my own experience and what I've read here, I think dry burning is essential for SS wires to work well with TC. Also I did try pre-annealing once, it did make the build easier but the resulting vape experience was kinda flaky.

My experience has been that if you skip dry burning SS, the wire will have a break in period where it pops and sizzles, where the juice flavor is off, and the base resistance will change.

Essentially, if you don't dry burn, the wire will go through the "dry burn" process, just much slower, and into your lungs instead of open air.

 

[Quantum Mech]

Id go straight for NiFe48 (Zivipf in germany) or try the NiFe30 from Stealthvape Uk. The dicodes Resistherm wire (which is, I think should really be called NiFe70) has a lower tcr than Ti and is bloody expensive...

Cheers @TheotherSteveS

I have some coming direct from Dicodes when they send my box back

But all they have is 29awg so that will go straight into storage

NiFe48 it is then

 

[dwcraig1]

Cheers @TheotherSteveS

I have some coming direct from Dicodes when they send my box back

But all they have is 29awg so that will go straight into storage

NiFe48 it is then

twist it...perhaps

 

[Quantum Mech]

twist it

Yeah that's what Dicodes suggested mate

Will do a couple of builds I suppose but need to get some 24 or 26 NiFe

I am pretty much sold on 316ss atm

Have a few tanks built and its just so convenient dry burning and rewicking in seconds

So far Billow V2's have been rock solid for TC builds, so will keep a new one aside for the dicodes box

 

[dwcraig1]

I shall try ss....someday, tried everything else just about.

 

[Quantum Mech]

I shall try ss....someday, tried everything else just about.

I have 316, 317 & 430 here

As the 316 has been going so well have not built with anything else since

Need to get some variety back in the mix

 

[Eric Auer]

Running a dual SS430 28AWG setup in a Tobeco Orchid V5 atm.

3mm ID, 6 wraps at around .31 ohms.

Great vape on a 26650 Chi-You mech.

SS430 is great imho.

Eric

 

[TheotherSteveS]

for what its worth, i havent bothered with ss as I see no advantage over NiFe48. Dry burnable, really decent TCR, pretty good resistivity at the small cost of a highish heat capacity. I just use it like kanthal pretty much. I love Ti and still use it but if i only had 25 and 27g NiFe48 i would not be unhappy!

 

[Quantum Mech]

Id go straight for NiFe48 (Zivipf in germany) or try the NiFe30 from Stealthvape Uk. The dicodes Resistherm wire (which is, I think should really be called NiFe70) has a lower tcr than Ti and is bloody expensive...

oh they have 26awg NiFe70

Saves waiting on German post

http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/NiFe30-Wire-.html

 

[Quantum Mech]

for what its worth, i havent bothered with ss as I see no advantage over NiFe48. Dry burnable, really decent TCR, pretty good resistivity at the small cost of a highish heat capacity. I just use it like kanthal pretty much. I love Ti and still use it but if i only had 25 and 27g NiFe48 i would not be unhappy!

My SS builds are the same

Built once in each tank then its a quick dry burn and rewick when needed

Will try some NiFe though otherwise will feel like am missing out on summit

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Yeah that's what Dicodes suggested mate

Will do a couple of builds I suppose but need to get some 24 or 26 NiFe

I am pretty much sold on 316ss atm

Have a few tanks built and its just so convenient dry burning and rewicking in seconds

So far Billow V2's have been rock solid for TC builds, so will keep a new one aside for the dicodes box

twisting it is the best way in my limited experience. Also, if you are going to pulse/dry burn it, be careful. If there are hot legs it will melt quick as you like. It is a very sensitive petal!

 

[TheotherSteveS]

My SS builds are the same

Built once in each tank then jts a quick dry burn and rewick when needed

Will try some NiFe tough otherwise will feel like am missing out on summit

Ok. I'll try some ss then and in a few weeks you will be saying NiFe48 is the dog's undercarriage and I will be claiming SS is what God vapes on! lol.

 

[Quantum Mech]

twisting it is the best way in my limited experience. Also, if you are going to pulse/dry burn it, be careful. If there are hot legs it will melt quick as you like. It is a very sensitive petal!

oh don't want no melting metal on the carpet

The boss will slaughter me

As everything I do now is 24 or 26 cant see me using it more than once though

 

[Quantum Mech]

Ok. I'll try some ss then and in a few weeks you will be saying NiFe48 is the dog's undercarriage and I will be claiming SS is what God vapes on! lol.

haha more than likely but we have to have a go for the price

 

[TheotherSteveS]

haha more than likely but we have to have a go for the price

I concur brother!!

 

[dwcraig1]

oh they have 26awg NiFe70

Saves waiting on German post

http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/NiFe30-Wire-.html

They appear to be "out of stock" till early October.
I just want to point out the ability to be confused on the various NiFe wires available. Example: Nife30, some use the % of Ni content and call it Nife30 (30% NI) while others use the % of Fe (30% Fe) and call it NiFe30.
NiFe48 and Nife52 = Ni content.
I hope I'm close to getting that correct.....LOL
Edit: NiFe48 and NiFe 52 have 52% Ni with remains Fe

 

[AtmizrOpin]

They appear to be "out of stock" till early October.
I just want to point out the ability to be confused on the various NiFe wires available. Example: Nife30, some use the % of Ni content and call it Nife30 (30% NI) while others use the % of Fe (30% Fe) and call it NiFe30.
NiFe48 and Nife52 = Ni content.
I hope I'm close to getting that correct.....LOL

so @dwcraig1..........the nife48/52 i got has more iron than nickel right?????? for higher ohmage. ain't it or no?

 

[dwcraig1]

so @dwcraig1..........the nife48/52 i got has more iron than nickel right?????? for higher ohmage. ain't it or no?

It should be the same as far as I know. I've been meaning to ask zivipf.com why he labels his differently (Ni content) than Kanthal (company) does.

 

[dwcraig1]

so @dwcraig1..........the nife48/52 i got has more iron than nickel right?????? for higher ohmage. ain't it or no?

Oh I didn't answer that right, give me a minute as this still confuses me too.
NiFe48, NiFe52 are both listed as 52% Ni