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Auckland Uni conducts world's first e-cigarettes study - Technology News | TVNZ
Auckland Uni conducts world's first e-cigarettes study - Technology News | TVNZ
the end of vapeing as we know it??
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Hmmm. Let me guess, we need hard evidence that they are helping people to quit, but this sort of vague mention suffices to establish children are being introduced. Notice: Not "teens" for that would create an accurate image of what may be occurring. Nope, we get "children" which brings an horrifying image of a third grade child puffing on a Blu.
Thank you for the story, Mad. It is good to know what is being said. It had some element of balance to it.
Since this thread is partially about the UK trying to regulate vaping devices as medical devices and the negative results for a change of that nature, I ran across this YouTube video on that very topic. Be forewarned, in the video, there is one instance (just one) where a "bad" word is used. I apologize in advance if that offends anyone or if it is against ECF policy. If it is, I will remove the video or ask that a moderator do it for me. I especially liked the last statement in the video. It would appear to apply to some who post on ECF:
Does anyone get a "hit" from nicotine?
I never got any "hit" from nicotine, although I did get a "hit" from something else in cigarettes.
I am pretty sure it was from the carbon monoxide though.
Whatever that "hit" was that I got from the first cigarette of the day, I don't get it using just nicotine.
I don't get any kind of "hit" whatsoever now that I am using an electronic cigarette.
I know that I don't. I have read many posts where folks say that they do and have wondered about it.
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You beat me! I was going to post that one. I didn't know until recently how many Hitler/e-cig videos there are.
That video was great! Funny but half true. Its sad some idiot in Washington makes all my decisions for me and doesn't know a thing about me.
Wow, amazing insight everyone. This is the exact thread I was hoping to see discussed here. Thank you everyone for your thoughts.
Hell yes, anything over 6mg makes me feel like I had ten double espressos. I do have a sensitive nervous system though, but my Strapping mate from New Brunswick who smokes 2 pad had a hit of my ego tonight and also said 'wow this gets you high.' That was Dekang 6mg vanilla....
I actually first gave up vaping as the stimulation was too much and gave me insomnia and at the time the lowest nic juices in the country I was living in were 11mg and I just couldn't handle it.
Now i can get 6mg I'm fine though. Before anyone calls me an anomaly or wants to blame it on my BP, go to the zero nic sub-forum and you'll see plenty of others who say the same....
Seems to affect a lot of people in different ways.
And that is the whole point to the argument. It affects people DIFFERENTLY. So how can studies show an absolute, across the board, determination? We KNOW bodies process chemicals and food and anything else we intake differently from the person right beside them.
2 things.....
1. Some have claimed they quit smoking using the patch in this thread, sorry for not posting the quotes as its not my point. Point is did u quit and never smoke again... using patch only? Just curious since the original opinion was doesn't know anyone personally who quit using a patch, I'll add neither do I, if u indeed quit which means never ever smoked a cigarette again then fantastic but if u had even one analog you failed. Please don't take me wrong I hope I have clarified my thought in proper perspective.
2. The Hits I got from cigarettes were TH, no highs and to my pocket book.
1. Some have claimed they quit smoking using the patch in this thread, sorry for not posting the quotes as its not my point. Point is did u quit and never smoke again... using patch only? Just curious since the original opinion was doesn't know anyone personally who quit using a patch, I'll add neither do I, if u indeed quit which means never ever smoked a cigarette again then fantastic but if u had even one analog you failed. Please don't take me wrong I hope I have clarified my thought in proper perspective.
2. The Hits I got from cigarettes were TH, no highs and to my pocket book.
I have gotten a "rush" from vaping, but I'm very sensitive to stimulants. More than one cup of coffee and I'm wired.
See, I have the exact opposite reaction, I need caffeine and nicotine to calm the hell down. I am kinda crazed and wired (but very poorly focused) without both. I but I have ADHD. It does not make me low, it just calms me a bit, and focuses me. I drink perhaps 40-50 oz of coffee every morning, 50-80 oz of tea every afternoon, and vape about 6-8ml of 18 mg juice a day.
With a few exceptions, nobody I know professionally has a clue that I am ADHD. Those are the only medications I take for it, and it is pretty severe without both.
I've always wanted to do a poll asking if people ever got a "buzz" from nicotine, but I don't think the results would be valid.
I am convinced that not many people get a "buzz" from nicotine (even though some might) and that most mistake the carbon monoxide "buzz" as being from nicotine.
The simple fact that most electronic cigarette users don't get any kind of "buzz" says a lot.
But even that is confounded with the fact that most long-time smokers no longer get that "buzz" either, unless they haven't had a smoke in awhile.
I am convinced that not many people get a "buzz" from nicotine (even though some might) and that most mistake the carbon monoxide "buzz" as being from nicotine.
The simple fact that most electronic cigarette users don't get any kind of "buzz" says a lot.
But even that is confounded with the fact that most long-time smokers no longer get that "buzz" either, unless they haven't had a smoke in awhile.
Well they say the vast majority of super smart people have some sort of ADD or ADHD. I certainly do not consider myself a super-smart, (only spastic) person, but you I believe likely are.
Not surprising; nicotine is an odd drug. In small doses it's a stimulant and in larger ones a relaxant. Running outside on a break to have a quick cig will clear your mind and help you focus, but later when smoking more, it calms you down. I think most vapers vape too much for it to feel like a stimulant, except in the morning (with or without coffee) which they're unlikely to notice since they are waking up. (Just my unsubstantiated, uncited, unproven by scientific study opinion.)
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Still, a learned opinion if not a scientific one.
I think it you are probably right, I would phrase it, "most vapers vape too much for it to feel like a stimulant" but I get your drift. The rest is on point.
Well, at least that mutt you are raising will be smart. Did you get the check for June?
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