The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread
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Hey bill,
I really love the way my lemon cake with frosting vapes but I mixed up some for a friend of my sons in 0 nic. He also said it was good but weak. I think he's probably vaping store bought, over done fruit flavors. He did say his wife liked it.
I really love the way my lemon cake with frosting vapes but I mixed up some for a friend of my sons in 0 nic. He also said it was good but weak. I think he's probably vaping store bought, over done fruit flavors. He did say his wife liked it.
I think it goes without saying that juice is going to taste differently in different devices at different temperatures.
Uncle Mike's Elixer makes an outstanding Fruity COPYRIGHTDMCA called Bedrock Breakfast, which I've mentioned here before. I would say that that juice is what really drove me here along with Ben Johnson's Cr3am (Oreo). Bedrock Breakfast has Lemon as the most dominate flavor along with hints from the other fruits. The exhale is a thick, creamy milk flavor. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Space Jam's Andromeda clone that's pretty darn good and I made it with all TFA flavors:
Vanilla 4%
Blueberry Extra 8%
Pomegranate 3%
Really good right away and outstanding the next day. If you enjoy fruit vapes, then give this one a try. Super simple too.
Vanilla 4%
Blueberry Extra 8%
Pomegranate 3%
Really good right away and outstanding the next day. If you enjoy fruit vapes, then give this one a try. Super simple too.
From in net: The original flavors included cherry, lemon and orange. The company has since added several new colors and flavors to its Fruity COPYRIGHTDMCA: grape, lime, Berry Blue, Incrediberry Purple and Bedrock Berry Pink.
My first run would be something like this:
Lemon 6%
Cherry 4%
Orange Cream 4%
Key Lime 2%
Cotton Candy 3%
Dulce de Leche 6%
Not sure if 6% of Dulce is enough but this should be a good start.
I just remembered that I have the pomegranate! A recent order, based upon a flood of new juice recipes, many with flavors I've never used, prompted this mini order:
Quantity Product SKU: Price Ext. Price
1 Acai Flavor-15ml fl-351_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Guava Flavor-15ml fl-368_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Kiwi (Double) Flavor-15ml fl-322_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Mary Jane Flavor-15ml fl_080_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Papaya Flavor-15ml fl-321_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Plum Flavor (PG)-15ml fl-295_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Pomegranate Flavor-15ml fl-283_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Sweetener-16oz wh-050_sz2 $15.00 $15.00
SubTotal: $41.60
I don't ordinarily order the small bottles any longer, but there's just so many new flavorings, that I had to. Other than Sweetener, above, I've never used any of those. I'm also starting to hear about "Pom's" and other flavorings as favorites on the streets, so I have to try them, not to mention YOUR recipes on here. Had one gal ask me for a good Guava Pom. Okie dokie.........so, we shall see. My fruit world is usually only the top five or six plus the berries. I'm not a 20 fruit person, but apparently, many others....are! So, here we go, and new possibilities in the Vape Lab.
Payday has arrived!
Unfortunately, I didn't have the discipline to actually plan out my "must have" flavors yet. Needles to say, it will include lots of fruit, plenty of creams, vanillas, and desert-y things, and some chocolates/mints.
Making decisions is hard! Now I get to go back reading and taking notes on 100+ pages of this thread, but it's gonna be worth it!
Unfortunately, I didn't have the discipline to actually plan out my "must have" flavors yet. Needles to say, it will include lots of fruit, plenty of creams, vanillas, and desert-y things, and some chocolates/mints.
Making decisions is hard! Now I get to go back reading and taking notes on 100+ pages of this thread, but it's gonna be worth it!
I just remembered that I have the pomegranate! A recent order, based upon a flood of new juice recipes, many with flavors I've never used, prompted this mini order:
Quantity Product SKU: Price Ext. Price
1 Acai Flavor-15ml fl-351_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Guava Flavor-15ml fl-368_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Kiwi (Double) Flavor-15ml fl-322_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Mary Jane Flavor-15ml fl_080_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Papaya Flavor-15ml fl-321_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Plum Flavor (PG)-15ml fl-295_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Pomegranate Flavor-15ml fl-283_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Sweetener-16oz wh-050_sz2 $15.00 $15.00
SubTotal: $41.60
I don't ordinarily order the small bottles any longer, but there's just so many new flavorings, that I had to. Other than Sweetener, above, I've never used any of those. I'm also starting to hear about "Pom's" and other flavorings as favorites on the streets, so I have to try them, not to mention YOUR recipes on here. Had one gal ask me for a good Guava Pom. Okie dokie.........so, we shall see. My fruit world is usually only the top five or six plus the berries. I'm not a 20 fruit person, but apparently, many others....are! So, here we go, and new possibilities in the Vape Lab.
I go back through my history of 4+ years of vaping... When I first quit analogs, I was vaping RY4 and other tobacco blends, needing that tobacco flavor and throat hit. Personally, I was smoking menthols, so I think I also had a menthol addiction that I had to wean myself off of too. Red Bull was one of the only non-tobacco flavors that I vaped in the very beginning, also the cola and root beer flavors.
Then, over the next couple of years, I slowly moved over into fruits. Cherry, Banana, Strawberry, etc..
Over the last year or year and a half I have seen, as well as the e-cig juice industry, a move into the more complex/premium style juices and dessert blends.
Fruits have been and will continue to be a popular ingredient for us. It has it's place in a stand-alone flavor but also has a place in many of our blended recipes. I like that we can use a fruit as a main flavor ingredient, but also enhance it with various creams and other things.
I hear you bro. Vaping since 2009, and seen many changes along the way. My first two attempts to vape in 2009 and again in 2011 were not entirely successful. Enter 2012, finally good enough juice and gear to power through a miserable 35 year smoking habit, TG! Better every day since. Good luck to all!
Great thread here Bill. Thanks for the invite.
You said a mouthful here, I think, and I'm gonna try not to bore everyone gettin' techie; but, you cook the juice with too much heat/power I find, if you get ahead of flow with power or demand (draw). The wick's terribly important here. But so is the base. Where I tend to cook off more is with VG/PG blends. In high to full VG formulas, my own high pigment tobacco's, I tend to see reduction (by discoloration) as in a good porridge thickening beyond 14W on a ZNA 1.3Ω. No scorching, chalky or ashy elements and the coil's clean (my new KPT test Bill). So really more of a question here. Am I getting reduction due to the high VG percentage? Or just not seeing pigment cook off (gunking) due to more efficient power use? Am I saying the same thing two different ways? LOL Your thoughts Bill, appreciated.
Take care and good luck.
Thanks Mac. It's actually something that everyone needs to know and what I just learned personally (about "cooking" the juice). To me it was like trying to BBQ noodles-though they may be cooked, most of the flavor just frys!
I bet you're right on the money. I have the same issue with my son and his friends in the flavor dept. They (at the teen/early 20's) seem to be very attracted to fruit flavors and they really need whatever flavor to be HUGE.
When I started vaping, I tried one of the store bought flavs my son brought home (all 0 nic) and OMG! It was like intense Jolly Rancher. But honestly, I couldn't determine what the flavor was other than fruity. It was almost gross.... and I had a case of vape tongue the size of TX! Go figure. So, maybe its their taste buds at that age? I dunno......
OMG HAHAHA I feel the same way read!
I have like 4 carts from diff companies sitting on my browser. Like Bill said in an earlier post... PRIORITIES!
As far as making notes-USE SEARCH lol Its your friend. I swear if it wasn't for search, this thread would have killed meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. It's huge! And we are consistently in the top 3 trending threads on the site-because we communicate and help each other. That is really cool!
Very true, all good points! It's fascinating how these mammoth threads develop their own communities (I'm thinking of JeremyR's rayon thread, and the folks in Fogger v4 as other great communities). Proud to be here!
I will need to use search. There are so many great recipes that it's going to be hard to remember what to search for, but it will definitely help.
No doubt! What I've done is just search for an ingredient. Makes it go faster LOL ANDDDDDDDDDDD I've ended up finding stuff that I didn't know about that way too
I used Bill's recipe with one change.
Having had used TFA Orange Cream I knew it was on the weak side, and I had noted that someone had commented that the vanilla or cream part was very good but it lacked orange in the body of the vape.
I substituted (subtracted) 2ml of dilutent and added 2ml of TFA Sweet Orange (only available in the Bulk section).
I let it steep a day, WOW it's great!
(Steep, rest, blend, percolate....)
Very creamy and I can definitely taste the orange, but not too much.....
Tastes like a Orange Creamsickle....imagine that!
BTW: You can also get the Sweet Orange from Liberty Natural, as TFA will not be carrying much longer per their web site.
(Liberty Natural has two types; one is cold pressed, the other is expressed. I would have to contact TFA to find out which one they have been selling).
I like it!
Thanks Bill!
Just as a side note: I used a Kanger Protank II with 2.5 ohm single coil @ 3.2 volts.
30ml volume mixed.
Having had used TFA Orange Cream I knew it was on the weak side, and I had noted that someone had commented that the vanilla or cream part was very good but it lacked orange in the body of the vape.
I substituted (subtracted) 2ml of dilutent and added 2ml of TFA Sweet Orange (only available in the Bulk section).
I let it steep a day, WOW it's great!
(Steep, rest, blend, percolate....)
Very creamy and I can definitely taste the orange, but not too much.....
Tastes like a Orange Creamsickle....imagine that!
BTW: You can also get the Sweet Orange from Liberty Natural, as TFA will not be carrying much longer per their web site.
(Liberty Natural has two types; one is cold pressed, the other is expressed. I would have to contact TFA to find out which one they have been selling).
I like it!
Thanks Bill!
Just as a side note: I used a Kanger Protank II with 2.5 ohm single coil @ 3.2 volts.
30ml volume mixed.
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If you find out what version TFA sold please let us know I've been searching for a good orange but haven't yet tried the TFA version
I've been searching for a good orange but haven't yet tried the TFA version
I NEED A NAME FOR THIS JUICE!!!
I mixed up a new batch of juice and must say its strangely unique. Its so delicious but I can't pin point the flavor so therefore it has yet to be named. Its sweet, caramelly, creamy, vanillie
If someone has these flavors on hand can you make a small batch and try it out and tell we what you think.
VG Base
Graham Cracker Clear 10%
M Type 8%
Mild Black 3%
VBIC 3%
1 drop sucralose per 5 ml
(Sucralose isn't powerful, just the right hint of sweet. Leaves a sweetness on exhale) $2.49 at Walmart for a huge bottle coils hold up on RBAs
24 hours tastes like M Type with a hint of background notes
48-72 hours the flavors blend so nice and its amazingly good
I mixed up a new batch of juice and must say its strangely unique. Its so delicious but I can't pin point the flavor so therefore it has yet to be named. Its sweet, caramelly, creamy, vanillie
If someone has these flavors on hand can you make a small batch and try it out and tell we what you think.
VG Base
Graham Cracker Clear 10%
M Type 8%
Mild Black 3%
VBIC 3%
1 drop sucralose per 5 ml
(Sucralose isn't powerful, just the right hint of sweet. Leaves a sweetness on exhale) $2.49 at Walmart for a huge bottle coils hold up on RBAs
24 hours tastes like M Type with a hint of background notes
48-72 hours the flavors blend so nice and its amazingly good
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