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Anyone have a good straight-up Hazelnut?

I found a good hazlenut cream recipe a while back,it's a very straight forward hazlenut with just a hint of creaminess.Don't let all the other flavors fool you,this is a very nutty hazlenut taste.


Hazlenut cream

7% marshmallow
5% hazelnut
3% ethyl maltol
3% caramel candy
2% dulce de leche
 

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I found a good hazlenut cream recipe a while back,it's a very straight forward hazlenut with just a hint of creaminess.Don't let all the other flavors fool you,this is a very nutty hazlenut taste.


Hazlenut cream

7% marshmallow
5% hazelnut
3% ethyl maltol
3% caramel candy
2% dulce de leche

Looks pretty darn good B. Lotsa Hazelnut but wonderful creams and caramel.
 

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Yeah,like i said it is definitely hazlenut heavy on the taste,i like hazlenut,but next time i make it i think i may drop it to maybe 4% to see if the cream will come through a bit more,you would think with all the cream in it that it would be a creamy flavor,but to me it's a pretty dry taste.I forget where i found that at,i think it was on reddit or whatever it's called haha.
 

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Need some advise. If following the BMV way of mixing using pg flavorings up to the 30% range, should I be looking to buy my nic in a vg base? I have always used nic in pg base at 36 mg and make 50/50 mixes. When using ejuice Me Up calc I had some wonky pg numbers when following a couple of Bills recipes. Moved a couple numbers around and made it work though. Also, I have no problem using more vg in my mixes.:vapor:

So if vg base is the way to go(and I think it probably is), I'll be ordering a 1000ml 100mg jug in the next month or so...That should last my wife and I about 2.5 years if 1000ml @36mg last us for over a year.:D
 

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I am looking for a good recipe that uses TFA grape juice

Hmm, grape is kinda odd flavor, I have some, never used it yet. Maybe try something from Bills tart recipe. Add grape to taste.

Tarts

Sweet Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 4%
Cotton Candy - 2%
Sweet and Tart - 2%
 

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Thanks..... I know my orders have been fairly large since I am just starting to build my flavors. Of course all the great recipes and feedback here keeps me buying more...lol

Well I got an answer from TFA....

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So there we have it!

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Need some advise. If following the BMV way of mixing using pg flavorings up to the 30% range, should I be looking to buy my nic in a vg base? I have always used nic in pg base at 36 mg and make 50/50 mixes. When using Ejuice Me Up calc I had some wonky pg numbers when following a couple of Bills recipes. Moved a couple numbers around and made it work though. Also, I have no problem using more vg in my mixes.:vapor:

So if vg base is the way to go(and I think it probably is), I'll be ordering a 1000ml 100mg jug in the next month or so...That should last my wife and I about 2.5 years if 1000ml @36mg last us for over a year.:D
I would always buy my nic in a VG base at 100 mg/ml, i.e., 1 drop equals 1%. Way cheaper, and easier to use (1 drop equals 1%). In VG, there's very little risk even if you get some on you, just wash it off within a few minutes or less, as VG does not easily absorb through the skin, so I think it's safer to use. I'm not afraid to go over 30% PG, I just like the 30/70 ratio best with the gear I'm using, so it could be different on a clearo, for example. On a dripper, though, I don't think I could use less than 70VG. So, for all those reasons, i.e., 1) cost, 2) ease of use, 3) safety, 4) ratio, etc., I think it's the right way to go. Nicotine only starts to get dangerous above 200 mg/ml (spillage), so nothing to worry about either. MFS has been running great sales on Nicotine lately too. I think 100 mg/ml nic has been running about $50, so super inexpensive in the liter sizes. I remember paying about $140-150 for a liter when I first started vaping. I buy PG by the gallon and VG by the bucket (5 gal), so carrier and nicotine costs are really low per mil. It's just the initial start up cost that can take the breath away, and that startup cost lasts about 18 months, or so, until your flavorings are all stocked (did for me anyway).

When using the EJMU calculator, you can change the default settings. Mine default to 100 mg/ml nicotine - all VG, a 30/70 ratio, 6 mg/ml on Nic strength, 100 ml amount to make, and 38 drops equals 1 ml (for the droppers I most often use). Once I enter a new recipe and recalculate, all the percentages then translate to single drops on the 100DT sample mix test, and it's very easy and quick to sample new mixes, and then to easily and quickly adjust them to taste. The only time you'll get funky PG numbers then is if you mix more than 30% PG, then the PG will show a negative. Most of my recipes cannot be made with a 50/50 Nicotine PG/VG ratio, as they eat into the PG available for the juice, which, then will give you funky PG negative numbers. So, that's what works best for me.
 

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Do they absolutely need all the creams and caramel?

I'm looking for something a little more stripped down (understanding that there needs to be SOME).

Thanks a lot.
Test it and adjust, up or down, to suit tastes. Making the recipes as written, though, is always a good starting point, as you generally know that for someone else, that was a good mix for them, so generally more reliable than adjusting before trying. Using the 100DT method, the second, adjusted mix is only a two or three minute delay, so why not? !! :2c:
 

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Hmm, grape is kinda odd flavor, I have some, never used it yet. Maybe try something from Bills tart recipe. Add grape to taste.

Tarts

Sweet Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 4%
Cotton Candy - 2%
Sweet and Tart - 2%
Grape has a chemical/floral note that needs either about 2% raspberry or up to 5% strawberry to remove. Creams can cover it, as well. Good luck! :toast:

My grape tart recipe uses 5% strawberry to mellow the grape. :D
 

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Hi all,

Does anyone have a recipe for Lemon Pound Cake....

(Of course I prefer anything Bill has so I have someone to pick on...) JOKE LOL!

Bill, all kidding aside everyone here sincerely appreciates all your GREAT RECIPES! :thumbs:

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A few months ago I won a contest with DIY Flavor Shack. I was not really mixing seriously at the time but hey, won a contest! Diane has some unique flavors (which, of course, is mostly what I picked out, just small bottles so I could get more :) ). One I got was "pound cake", so I substituted the pound cake for FW Vanilla cake in Bill's recipe.

TFA Lemon 10%
DIY Pound Cake 7%
TFA Bavarian Cream 3%
TFA Sweet Cream 3%
TFA Cotton Candy 5%

Not bad! It has steeped about 5 days as of today; I might lower the Bavarian Cream 1% and up the Lemon 1or 2% because the Lemon is mild. But still, pretty yum!

Not to be a party pooper, I have not concentrated on the milkshake because there were so many others I wanted to experiment with. I do have a bunch of little 5ml bottles of various mixes, some tweaks of the same basic recipe. All tasted upon mixing, some tweaking I did (but kept the original to compare) and steeping away. An espresso recipe; started with TFA espresso but also have FA Coffee Espresso which I am liking better (not that TFA's is not good, just needs more work), I am trying for a coffee flavor not too sweet and creamy for this first iteration. I drink my coffee black. Bill's Cinnamon Danish (experimented with Vanilla Ice cream instead of Bavarian Cream in one variation), and the Lemon Cake. Oh, and Lemon pie. I will post the final recipes when I determine they are to my liking.

It has been nice to have some private time to mix!
 

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I would always buy my nic in a VG base at 100 mg/ml, i.e., 1 drop equals 1%. Way cheaper, and easier to use (1 drop equals 1%). In VG, there's very little risk even if you get some on you, just wash it off within a few minutes or less, as VG does not easily absorb through the skin, so I think it's safer to use. I'm not afraid to go over 30% PG, I just like the 30/70 ratio best with the gear I'm using, so it could be different on a clearo, for example. On a dripper, though, I don't think I could use less than 70VG. So, for all those reasons, i.e., 1) cost, 2) ease of use, 3) safety, 4) ratio, etc., I think it's the right way to go. Nicotine only starts to get dangerous above 200 mg/ml (spillage), so nothing to worry about either. MFS has been running great sales on Nicotine lately too. I think 100 mg/ml nic has been running about $50, so super inexpensive in the liter sizes. I remember paying about $140-150 for a liter when I first started vaping. I buy PG by the gallon and VG by the bucket (5 gal), so carrier and nicotine costs are really low per mil. It's just the initial start up cost that can take the breath away, and that startup cost lasts about 18 months, or so, until your flavorings are all stocked (did for me anyway).

When using the EJMU calculator, you can change the default settings. Mine default to 100 mg/ml nicotine - all VG, a 30/70 ratio, 6 mg/ml on Nic strength, 100 ml amount to make, and 38 drops equals 1 ml (for the droppers I most often use). Once I enter a new recipe and recalculate, all the percentages then translate to single drops on the 100DT sample mix test, and it's very easy and quick to sample new mixes, and then to easily and quickly adjust them to taste. The only time you'll get funky PG numbers then is if you mix more than 30% PG, then the PG will show a negative. Most of my recipes cannot be made with a 50/50 Nicotine PG/VG ratio, as they eat into the PG available for the juice, which, then will give you funky PG negative numbers. So, that's what works best for me.

Thanks Bill for a through explanation on your Vg usage. You answered questions I had, and cleared up a couple things I wasn't sure about. I really like the idea of using the 100mg nic for the reasons you state. Now I need to start learning to use a dropper instead of the syringe method. I made a mix the other day that used 1% sweetener. I destroyed it using a syringe. Waaaay too sweet lol. The syringe may be accurate in large batches, but in 5-10ml mix, it does not work so well.

Have you found that vg drops are larger than anything pg? Does it matter to you? Do you use different droppers for pg/vg? I think when mixing, repeatability is most important.
 

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Anyone have a good straight-up Hazelnut?

Before I found this wonderful thread and learned about all the ways to use vanillas and creams I mixed my TFA Hazelnut @ 12% and added 3% EM. That was it. Just the 2 and thoroughly enjoyed it for at least 6 months. Sent some of it to my sis and she too really loved it. Give it a try and see what you think.
 

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Grape has a chemical/floral note that needs either about 2% raspberry or up to 5% strawberry to remove. Creams can cover it, as well. Good luck! :toast:

My grape tart recipe uses 5% strawberry to mellow the grape. :D

I'm going to give this a try Bill. I have and love raspberry flavor. Have you ever googled raspberry origin? Lol....
 

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Before I found this wonderful thread and learned about all the ways to use vanillas and creams I mixed my TFA Hazelnut @ 12% and added 3% EM. That was it. Just the 2 and thoroughly enjoyed it for at least 6 months. Sent some of it to my sis and she too really loved it. Give it a try and see what you think.
Now i gotta try this haha.Going by how much the hazlenut comes through in that cream recipe at 5%,12% sounds like it would be overwhelming,but i love hazlenut flavors,so curiousity will get the best of me here haha.
 

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Thanks Bill for a through explanation on your Vg usage. You answered questions I had, and cleared up a couple things I wasn't sure about. I really like the idea of using the 100mg nic for the reasons you state. Now I need to start learning to use a dropper instead of the syringe method. I made a mix the other day that used 1% sweetener. I destroyed it using a syringe. Waaaay too sweet lol. The syringe may be accurate in large batches, but in 5-10ml mix, it does not work so well.

Have you found that vg drops are larger than anything pg? Does it matter to you? Do you use different droppers for pg/vg? I think when mixing, repeatability is most important.

On a test mix, any slight variation in drop size is not going to make that big a difference. Using the 100DT, it comes out to be a bout 2.5 mls, more or less, but since we are focusing on percentages and not volume, any variation is not a big factor. Droppers are way more accurate than syringes until you get to quite a large batch anyway. Individual ingredients in a mix tend to fluctuate by at least 1/2 ml, so droppers are still way more accurate. Once you get to 100 mls, or so, though, again, these small differences won't matter in the least. Commercial juice makers generally mix by the gallon(s) in order to eliminate these variations. The only way to be truly accurate is to use weight, and not volume, anyway. :2c: :D

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