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I'm all Taifun GT2's these days (AFC).....ahhhhh.....much better. Really wish I had a Gandalf Pipe.....I gave up the search for one some time back.....and I'm talking about a vaping Pipe, not an actual pipe! I do note that when Gandalf smokes his pipe, with whatever magical mix he uses, the look of satisfaction on his face is, well, the same as mine when I vape......Nothing like it!

I am in the business world a lot these days, and I vape like a fiend while doing business.....you should see the looks I get! Oh, it's good to be back. Hope I CAN stay a while! Good to see all of you too! This thread just keeps plugging away.....we must be doing something right! Right?!!! :D :toast:

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Absolutely right -- if not for this thread and the HFM technique, I dunno if I'd have EVER learned to make good ejuice. So I really don't care if people wig out when I say my strawberry and cream is 30.5% flavoring -- those who've tried that recipe, LOVE it! :thumb:

I'm using strictly Achilles RDAs myself these days... they seem to have totally weaned me off Kayfuns. :D The gunk factor from 30.5% flavoring had a lot to do with it. :D

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does anyone premix nic and vg to a desired strength and then put in freezer? thought it would make it easier to mix when its time to make juices.

Quite the opposite, my friend!

I mix the flavorings and PG together, often for many weeks/months.....and then apply whatever Nic and VG to it for vaping. In this way, I can match the Nic to whomever's Nic level, and generally match their PG/VG ratio, as well. Also, though HFM ATM's don't require much steep time, say 2 - 48 hours, or so, all juices seem to benefit from some "alone" time, and mixing the flavorings prior to completing the full mix does help this. These pre-mixed flavorings are always made to 30% of mix, i.e., a 30% PG mix, then later adding a 70% VG/Nic batch to it.

I developed my techniques at a time when I was selling juice commercially, and had to prepare many different Nic levels and be able to adjust the PG/VG ratio to suit the order. As such, it did save time when it came time to mix up 1,000 mls, or so, and it's less expensive, and more accurate when done in batches, as well.

As another poster mentioned, doing the reverse, i.e., mixing the Nic and VG first will cause the Nic and VG levels to be locked into a very specific ratio, that would not be that easy to adjust to change the Nic or PG/VG ratio, though, it could be done, with a good calculator. Also, if you wanted to lock in the PG/VG ratio and the Nic to specific numbers, say 70% of mix, you could do that and just plan to then later add the 30% PG mix, i.e., flavorings and PG. That would work, as well, come to think about it, and would certainly accomplish your objectives.

Come to think about it, you could do both, requiring only a mix of the 30% PG portion (my preferred ratio....YMMV) with the 70% VG/Nic ratio. Yes, this would substantially reduce the mixing time required. So, one batch of 70% VG/Nic and a batch of each flavoring at 30% PG....yes, that would work......a very nice suggestion, and one I had not thought of myself. Now, if you had to vary the Nic, or the ratio, it DOES NOT WORK in that scenario, so, for making my own juice, it works, but I'm still stuck with formulation for any mix that varies in Nic and ratio. I make juice for friends that use higher Nic, and the pre-bottles "parts" would not work for them. Ok, rambling now.....Happy vaping!! :D :toast:

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Absolutely right -- if not for this thread and the HFM technique, I dunno if I'd have EVER learned to make good ejuice. So I really don't care if people wig out when I say my strawberry and cream is 30.5% flavoring -- those who've tried that recipe, LOVE it! :thumb:

I'm using strictly Achilles RDAs myself these days... they seem to have totally weaned me off Kayfuns. :D The gunk factor from 30.5% flavoring had a lot to do with it. :D

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You GOT IT, sister!!! A big HELLO, my friend!

HFM ATM with a couple of drops of citric acid, and you're good to go, with long-term locked in flavoring, little or no steep time, great juice, immediate use, adjustable flavoring (100DT), no guesswork, FAST, no time wasted, AND, YES! you can learn to make your own DIY! That has been my interest in this thread from the start......i.e, helping the new DIY'er learn QUICKLY how to make great juice, and to spice up their acronym knowledge base...! :D :toast:

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Absolutely right -- if not for this thread and the HFM technique, I dunno if I'd have EVER learned to make good ejuice. So I really don't care if people wig out when I say my strawberry and cream is 30.5% flavoring -- those who've tried that recipe, LOVE it! :thumb:

I'm using strictly Achilles RDAs myself these days... they seem to have totally weaned me off Kayfuns. :D The gunk factor from 30.5% flavoring had a lot to do with it. :D

Andria
I've heard nothing but rave reviews for you strawberries and cream, and did watch you struggle with your iterations as you "perfected" your ADV. Congrats and hat's off. Strawberry is tricky and doesn't always place nice with others. While you have a predilection for diketone free flavorings, I do not make that distinction, and pursue my flavor quest with unmitigated gusto! If you're looking for a good moo juice or variation, new DIY'ers should fire up the Andria S and C juice. It's a winner! :D :toast:

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I've heard nothing but rave reviews for you strawberries and cream, and did watch you struggle with your iterations as you "perfected" your ADV. Congrats and hat's off. Strawberry is tricky and doesn't always place nice with others. While you have a predilection for diketone free flavorings, I do not make that distinction, and pursue my flavor quest with unmitigated gusto! If you're looking for a good moo juice or variation, new DIY'ers should fire up the Andria S and C juice. It's a winner! :D :toast:

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Me likes those tasty little diketones too.
 

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You GOT IT, sister!!! A big HELLO, my friend!

HFM ATM with a couple of drops of citric acid, and you're good to go, with long-term locked in flavoring, little or no steep time, great juice, immediate use, adjustable flavoring (100DT), no guesswork, FAST, no time wasted, AND, YES! you can learn to make your own DIY! That has been my interest in this thread from the start......i.e, helping the new DIY'er learn QUICKLY how to make great juice, and to spice up their acronym knowledge base...! :D :toast:

:2cool: :vapor:

So far I haven't needed to make big batches; I'm stepping down my WTA percentage, and I'm near the end of that process, currently at 2.6% WTA, so I'm only making 40ml bottles, which last me roughly a week -- got about a third of my last 40ml left, and when that's gone I'll go to 2.4%. But I definitely need to get some citric acid, so when I'm finally done with the WTA, I can mix a whole month's worth of juice at one time and not have to keep mixing every week, unless I wanna try new recipes.

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I've heard nothing but rave reviews for you strawberries and cream, and did watch you struggle with your iterations as you "perfected" your ADV. Congrats and hat's off. Strawberry is tricky and doesn't always place nice with others. While you have a predilection for diketone free flavorings, I do not make that distinction, and pursue my flavor quest with unmitigated gusto! If you're looking for a good moo juice or variation, new DIY'ers should fire up the Andria S and C juice. It's a winner! :D :toast:

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I really only care about diketones because my reading suggests that the only symptom one gets if the bronchiolitis obliterans strikes is shortness of breath -- and since I have asthma, I struggle with that feeling on a daily basis, so I'd have no way of knowing if it was just my asthma, or something far worse -- I know the B. O. is very rare, but I'm a bit of a hypochondriac, so if I was using diketones and got breathless, oh horrors! I'd be freaking out. :D

I've experimented with lowering all the flavorings in that S&C by 5%, except the sweetener, and it's still pretty darn good, and it does help the gunking a little if it's at 28.5% instead of 30.5%. Lately I've been plagued with some version of "vaper's tongue" a lot, so I went back to the original, but at least I know I *can* reduce the flavoring a little and it's just as good, though it takes more like 3 days to be really tasty, instead of just one. Once I get done with the WTA, I'll pay more attention to flavor reducing; if I make a month's worth at a time, the vast majority of that batch will have weeks to steep, rather than just hours or days.

I've also experimented with other brands of strawberry, but so far nothing tastes as good to me as the INW Shisha Strawberry. I guess I'm stuck with it. :D

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Absolutely right -- if not for this thread and the HFM technique, I dunno if I'd have EVER learned to make good ejuice. So I really don't care if people wig out when I say my strawberry and cream is 30.5% flavoring -- those who've tried that recipe, LOVE it! :thumb:

I'm using strictly Achilles RDAs myself these days... they seem to have totally weaned me off Kayfuns. :D The gunk factor from 30.5% flavoring had a lot to do with it. :D

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I love my Kayfuns. I.m not a dripper, just too fiddly for me since my hands are kinda messed up. I did get a Woodvil the first of this month as a combination 1 year Vapaversary, birthday, stem cell transplant present to myself. [emoji2] So I may not drip but I do squonk. I did just use it to test my first diy attempt, tho. It's good, just gotta get more flavors now!
 

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I love my Kayfuns. I.m not a dripper, just too fiddly for me since my hands are kinda messed up. I did get a Woodvil the first of this month as a combination 1 year Vapaversary, birthday, stem cell transplant present to myself. [emoji2] So I may not drip but I do squonk. I did just use it to test my first diy attempt, tho. It's good, just gotta get more flavors now!

That's just one of the great things about the Achilles... it holds 2.5ml -- same as the T3S's I started with. :)

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BMV! Glad to see you back on here. You left just about the time I was reading through 500+ pages of sage advice to get started on my DIY career. Thank you so much for all the wisdom you have shared and I LOVE your ADV Cinnamon Danish. Currently puffing on it.
 

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I'll share a recipe from New Amsterdam Vapes on YouTube that I mixed up and it came out quite nicely:

blueberry & lemon
Ingredient %
Berry Crunch (TPA) 1
Blueberry Wild (TPA) 6
DX Bavarian Cream (TPA) 2
Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA) 2
Lemon (TFA) 3

Strength: 3mg/ml
PG/VG: 30/70
Flavor total: 4.2 ml (14%)
 

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BMV! Glad to see you back on here. You left just about the time I was reading through 500+ pages of sage advice to get started on my DIY career. Thank you so much for all the wisdom you have shared and I LOVE your ADV Cinnamon Danish. Currently puffing on it.
Me too!! :D :toast:

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I'll share a recipe from New Amsterdam Vapes on YouTube that I mixed up and it came out quite nicely:

blueberry & lemon
Ingredient %
Berry Crunch (TPA) 1
Blueberry Wild (TPA) 6
DX Bavarian Cream (TPA) 2
Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA) 2
Lemon (TFA) 3

Strength: 3mg/ml
PG/VG: 30/70
Flavor total: 4.2 ml (14%)
Sweetener and/or cotton candy may improve that mix, btw. These not only add obvious sweetness, but pull out more flavorings, as well. Just a fwiw.... :thumb: :toast:

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I love my Kayfuns. I.m not a dripper, just too fiddly for me since my hands are kinda messed up. I did get a Woodvil the first of this month as a combination 1 year Vapaversary, birthday, stem cell transplant present to myself. [emoji2] So I may not drip but I do squonk. I did just use it to test my first diy attempt, tho. It's good, just gotta get more flavors now!
Best way to use a dripper right there.I had a few rda's before,and never really used them much because i quickly got tired of having to redrip after just a few hits.Then i got my first bottom feeder,and i've been hooked since then,i now have 3 mech bottom feeders and a vw one.All my other mods and tanks are just collecting dust now because i am a dedicated sqounker haha.
 

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    I have a question. It says in the description that there are not side air holes but in one of the pics it looks like there is a hole in the side of the base.

    Right, it actually works exactly the same as a Kayfun's airflow, from right under the coil, but instead of just a little ring around the airhole under the coil, there's a "stack" and the opening itself is very small. You can adjust the airflow with an allen key on the bottom, just like a KFL+, but most folks seem to remove the airflow screw because it *is* so tight; I didn't mind that, but it whistled worse than a kayfun, so I took it out -- end of whistle, and it's still a very tight draw.

    There are no other openings in the body except that tiny hole under the coil, and the 510 aperture; because that stack is so tall, you can fill it past the top of the well, to just under the top of that stack, and even when you lay it down, the liquid can't reach to get into that tiny hole; the threads are backed with o-rings, so it NEVER leaks. Because I use mine so constantly, there *is* a very small trace of moisture from condensate inside the airflow system, which shows up as a trace on the very bottom, but it's such a small amount, it's very hard to see, and just in casual use, as when I was first trying it, it doesn't happen at all -- it's the constant buildup of condensate that causes it. If you washed it out after every 2.5ml, it probably wouldn't happen, but I'm lazy. :D

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