I'm fine with keeping all the big mods for myself. 
I'm fine with keeping all the big mods for myself.![]()
Sorry I didn't mean to insult anyone. The improvements in mods are important as they will also help the progress of mini ecigs I imagine.
I agree most users end up looking to upgrade from mini ecigs but thats not because they don't want a cigarette sided ecig (they do), it's because as you said technology doesn't allow them to perform well enough so far.
Yet I believe that's the future.
I started with a cheap little cig alike and almost did not keep with vaping until I came here and saw all the cool mods and such that I could eventually get.
It is less about just meeting my nicotine demand now and more having fun and enjoying my new hobby.
How about we just meet half way and say the future of vaping is a device that (work very well) is a similar size and weight as a real cigarette but doesn't necessarily have to look identical to one.
Lol... we do have a lot of passionate folks here don't we?
In truth I really don't see anything wrong with standardization. We all have to think of the big picture. As the market is now with the only apparent standard being the 510 (which has a form factor that will be off putting to most new comers that are already being stretched to accept e-cigs talk-less of accepting a bigger form factor) i think its safe to say the vaping is still in the hobbyist and early adopter realm.
I don't see that market ever going away. those of us that want to take pride in our ihybrids or provaris can always do that, same way how those analogers that wanna take pride in a $300 cigar can do that too. But for vaping to become mainstream, to really be an everyone thing; it has to be made easy to the point where someone shouldnt have to come to a forum to find out what works and doesnt. And its that simple.
It has to get to a point where the average vaper shouldn't have to worry about battery threads, resistance, volts....etc. They should literally be able to just walk into a store, pick up a pack of cartos and screw that onto their "generic" batteries. As it stands cartos from some brands are good for about 75-150 puffs. They should standardize that s*** so everyone knows what they are getting from any carto regardless of brand.
I don't see how this will affect the hobbyist in any way, but can see how much better this will be for every other smoker out there.
Im going to assume by your join date and number of posts that youre new to all of this and take it easy on you.
Most new vapers come to a forum like this for a couple of reasons but the main one is because they are looking for something better than what they picked up in a gas station or convenience store.
The vast majority of come in here saying they want something that looks and feels like a cigarette but end up changing their minds once they realize that they cant get what they need in that small of a form factor.The technology doesnt exist yet and it might not 10 years from now either.
Mods and APV are the future and the reason why your comment was insulting is because it discounts all the hard work and progress thats been made (mainly by fellow vapers on THIS forum) in those areas in favor of YOUR preference for a cig-alike.
You have things a little backwards in regards to vaping. The people on this forum are the mainstream of vaping. Most of those buying cig-alikes try em once or twice, end up dissatisfied and throw em into a drawer somewhere and forget about em.
Nope dont want it.....Form factor seems to be a serious consideration for you.....Ive already gotten past that and I dont want anything smaller.....even if they could condense a Provari down to that size I still wouldnt want it. Its too easy to lose.....and I dont think like a smoker anymore anyways
Exactly.....Its easy to make the assumption sometimes that everyone wants the same things you want but when it comes down to it were all individuals and will have different needs and wants.
I dont want anything ever again that feels like a cigarette in my hand, Ive moved beyond that and evolved into something better.