The future of vaping?

[zapped]

Wow and you call me offensive?

Grow up and stop getting offended about a piece of plastic.

It's not about being "trendy" I speak for most young adults and teens.

I never insulted anyone personally ....., I said I'm not comfortable and don't like using a large heavy device....yeah I deserve to die because of that

See the post above.....comment less, read more then come back and comment after youve gained some knowledge instead of inadvertently insulting people. Were not the ones that need the education here.....we've been doing this for awhile.Youre the one that just started and unfortunately it shows.

Again, NOT trying to be mean but maybe if you spend more time reading up on vaping and less time posting you wont run the risk of pissing everyone off .Thats usually my job

 

[jazon1]

blu/apollo/green smoke kit ? screams in horror!
in ten years i plan on carrying a car battery with VV/VW and a soda can sized tank filled with my own DIY juice!!

i think at first having the tobacco company's on board will be great and will help to keep Ecigs from being banned,
but i also think they will fight to get Ecig's regulated in a way that will make it imposable for unique small company's to be able to have products on the market and in the long run will hurt the success of Ecigs, and not to mention the crap the tobacco company's will add to there e-liquid to make it more addictive by the time they are done with them they will probably be as bad as analogs for you.

 

[vsummer1]

Are you perhaps ashamed/insecure about being seen as a smoker? I'm not.

I'd rather people thing I'm smoking than some weirdo/druggie with some big looking device.

There is no reason why you can't have both worlds.

A mini ecig that looks exactly like a cigarette and others that are the same size/weight but have a blue light or something else that makes it not look like a real cigarette.

This is about advancing technology, making vaping as simple as can be and giving the masses what they want.

I have yet to meet one person who thinks I am a "weirdo / druggie." Do you even know what most of us look like anyway? I am clean, well maintained, my clothes are nice, I drive a nice vehicle and I speak my native language very well. I am college educated and make a decent living. I am a Registered Nurse, and no one in their right mind would think that I was anything more than a normal, mainstream looking person. So when they DO see me with some new thing, they are curious and wonder what that nice looking lady has - is it a cigarette, no, gee, what is it? NOT omg, there is some weird druggy!

The devices I use do not look any weirder than the new cell phones look compared to the old style phones. I suppose grandma might not want one them new-fangled cell phone thingys when her good old hooked to the wall by a cord phone works just fine. But the masses now do use cell phones. It is a matter of getting them out there for people to get used to.

You are way off my friend.

 

[Lorddeff07]

Agreed, hence why I said "looks exactly like a cigarette?". I still think though, the more visual difference between your device and a cigarette, at the moment, the greater the advantage.

True.. I agree with you.

 

[zapped]

sigh.....

ok...so i made a mistake with the 75 puffs thingy. But pls, the title of this thread is in 10 years and I was just trying to make a point!!! but you know what, I started this discussion to basically share opinions and see where the general mindset of ppl lay with the future of this thing I just started. Thats what ppl are supposed to do on forums, discuss and share opinions. I am not arguing with what I dont know and am willing to take correction.

But this has taken a somewhat ugly turn. And you are even beginning to single out ppl that don't COMPLETELY agree with what you are saying?

Fine then, lets see if six month will make me think that technology can improve in ten years and that vaping will be easier to get to if it was in a more accessible and familiar form factor.

Its not my intention to make it ugly or to hurt your feeling or anything like that.Your friend who appears to have just joined as well has inadvertently insulted people a couple times in this thread already.Im sure that wasnt his intention. If I had realized how new he was I probably wouldnt have responded as harshly as I did.

I think you'll find that by taking my advice and learning as much as you can before posting and acting like your an authority on the matter you'll have an easier time of it in the future. As it is now some of the things youre throwing out there will have the sharks circling in the water in no time.

Thats not singling you out thats just good general advice to anyone new to vaping and to these forums.

 

[Lorddeff07]

blu/apollo/green smoke kit ? screams in horror!
in ten years i plan on carrying a car battery with VV/VW and a soda can sized tank filled with my own DIY juice!!

i think at first having the tobacco company's on board will be great and will help to keep Ecigs from being banned,
but i also think they will fight to get Ecig's regulated in a way that will make it imposable for unique small company's to be able to have products on the market and in the long run will hurt the success of Ecigs, and not to mention the crap the tobacco company's will add to there E-liquid to make it more addictive by the time they are done with them they will probably be as bad as analogs for you.

I dont think so... there will always be the mod community with ecigs, simply cause they were here before the big companies joined he party. Its like saying because of the hondas, toyotas, mercs...etc ther will never be room for the lambos, ferrraris or bugattis....

 

[vsummer1]

Wow and you call me offensive?

Grow up and stop getting offended about a piece of plastic.

It's not about being "trendy" I speak for most young adults and teens.

I never insulted anyone personally ....., I said I'm not comfortable and don't like using a large heavy device....yeah I deserve to die because of that

I am quite mature, thank you. And who uses plastic? I have brass, ss, aluminum, and would love to get a wood... the only plastic ones are my box mods which stay at home because they are fragile and well, made of plastic.

Which actually makes them right up your alley as they are also light and need to be replaced frequently, just like the ones you use. Mine will last until the day I die unless perhaps a hole in the earth opens up to reclaim the metal from which they are made.

I would think the young adults and teens would be more into conservation and less things filling up the landfills like the disposables you use do?

 

[Lorddeff07]

Its not my intention to make it ugly or to hurt your feeling or anything like that.Your friend who appears to have just joined as well has inadvertently insulted people a couple times in this thread already.Im sure that wasnt his intention. If I had realized how new he was I probably wouldnt have responded as harshly as I did.

I think you'll find that by taking my advice and learning as much as you can before posting and acting like your an authority on the matter you'll have an easier time of it in the future. As it is now some of the things youre throwing out there will have the sharks circling in the water in no time.

Thats not singling you out thats just good general advice to anyone new to vaping and to these forums.

Then let them come lol... I am not speaking like I am some sort of authority on the matter. I didnt also expect this to turn into what this has turned into. I was just asking where ppl think this will go in ten years.

simple. And everything I said, with the exception of my slight misunderstanding of the 510 threading... is something i can back up with links.

 

[Erncig]

Just because I have just joined doesnt make me a noob.....

The large devices are not for me nor most smokers. End of story!

Don't get offended, don't scream at me, just face the facts.

What I and masses want IS the future of vaping which is what this whole thread is about.

Your big mods and devices will still be there too, no need to cry.

Geez...

 

[vsummer1]

Then let them come lol... I am not speaking like I am some sort of authority on the matter. I didnt also expect this to turn into what this has turned into. I was just asking where ppl think this will go in ten years.

simple. And everything I said, with the exception of my slight misunderstanding of the 510 threading... is something i can back up with links.

Because, you know, EVERYTHING on the internet is true!

 

[jazon1]

I dont think so... there will always be the mod community with ecigs, simply cause they were here before the big companies joined he party. Its like saying because of the hondas, toyotas, mercs...etc ther will never be room for the lambos, ferrraris or bugattis....

unfortunately these are nicotine delivery devices not automobiles, very different beasts.
for example: recently smokes shops had these machines at there shops were you picked out your own tobacco and there machines would role you as many cigs as you liked with and without filters,they were great because the cigs were very fresh compared to pre packaged cigarets and people had options like how thick they were what flavor they wanted how long they wanted them and they cost less because they didnt include the same taxs.

they started to cut into the sales of pre packaged cigarette packs and the big tobacco company's saw them as a threat needless to say they had them all shut down and banned from use,
my fear is they will do the same to e-cigs they will come into the market and take it over and make it theirs and kill off any competitor that does not have billions of $ to fight them.

 

[vsummer1]

Okay, back to the OP's original thought then:

I hope that the future of vaping has a delivery system that is not disposable, batteries that are not disposable and can give me the flavor and assuage my nicotine addiction. In fact, I am using those now. My batteries last a year rather than about 250 charges like the cig-a-likes do. I rebuild my wick and coil and don't throw anything but tiny pieces of metal away.

And the modders out there are already making great strides with the limitations of the batteries that are available. Until the batteries can be made more powerful, with more charges in a small size, we must work with what we have. I am hoping that in ten years, the battery limitation will have been worked out.

 

[zapped]

I think the biggest impact companies like blue and greensmoke are going to make is to continue to lure smokers into trying vaping and then smart ones (mostly) are going to continue coming here and to youtube to see if theres anything better.

From here they will try the latest mods and accessories and we'll continue to grow.

I definitely think we'll see more big battery mods out there as well as more sophisticated juice delivery systems.

 

[CanadianCow]

Well are we talking about a dream world in 10yrs or a realistic one?

I think the big "weird" looking setups will become the norm as more people realize what they offer is actually an option. I have been discussing vaping with a lot of people here and I have yet to find someone who is even aware that there is an option other than the cig-look-a-likes. As existing smokers find out what vaping can offer them and as more current vapers are out and proud then it will become the look a likes that will fall into the minority and look "weird". If the companies are smart then they will offer those "weird" setups as an option (like how analogs have slims, king sized ect) but they will charge insane amounts and I doubt they will be as good as the current vendors have.

 

[Leal]

In the spirit of the op I would love to see beautiful mechanical mods and vv devices more mainstream. I really like the vendor I use online but I'm a cash in hand kind of gal and would prefer to go to a B&M to get high end equipment. So I could try then buy. This is mostly what is holding me back from upgrading

I would also like to see cleaner tasting delivery devices that are convenient. I love dripping but it is not practical for my lifestyle right now. So I compromise with cartos for the convenience and put up with the filler taste. I would love to see a ss mesh wick rba tank that you could plug a new prebuilt coil into and fill and go like a clearo.

 

[Erncig]

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Haha...oh dear. You can't even face a big hard cold fact that the rest of the smoking world wouldn't dare use your beloved big ecigs/mods in public! Stop arguing over this, because you're dead wrong.

Why are cigs like blu number one sellers? Why where blu bought out? Because most people want small ecigs! (They are the future)

Stop getting insecure its pathetic. I'm starting to think you feel threatened by the mini ecig and you somehow think you are special because you use mods/large ecigs.

 

[308hjute]

Heres an open discussion . Simple question.

Where do you see vaping going in 10yrs?

My take on this is that its actually surprising that none of the really big analog brands (with exception to newport?) have actually come out with their own branded vaping alternatives. Kinda strange when you think of it. However, with how mainstream it seems to be becoming, I expect to start seeing more and more commercials of vapers on tv (the blu commercial got me looking into vaping and ultimately led me to buying an eGo kit) and in a few years time, I dare say we would probably see more e-cigs than analog cigs generally. I think a turning point will be when there is actually a standardized battery system in the form factor of the analog look alike cigs, then everyone can have their batteries and just walk into a gas station or convenience store and pick up a pack of cartos from their trusted brand.

So as it stands, the mostly proprietary nature of the medium is doing more harm than good for its growth. I believe at some point, vaper manufacturers will/should come together and make certain standards. Standards that will ensure cross compatibility.

Imagine buying a blu/apollo/green smoke kit which will be nothing but a PCC case with two batteries and a pack of sample cartomizers. Then when you run out, you can simply walk into a store and buy a pack of flavored cartomizers from Marlboro/camel/newport/salem....etc and just screw those onto your batteries.

Just a gentle reminder, this is what the original question was ^

I'm heading off to bed, but going to have a think about this some more.

One thing I do hope, is if in 10 years time vaping has really taken off and become mainstream, the less it resembles the 'bad old days' of cigarette smoking, the better.

But then again, hopefully in 10 years time smoking traditional cigarettes will be seen as an ancient and destructive pasttime that just doesn't exist anymore. Idealistic? I certainly hope so.

My 4 cents worth (I'm sure I had 2c worth earlier).

All the best to all of you

Kev

 

[jeapa]

blu/apollo/green smoke kit ? screams in horror!
in ten years i plan on carrying a car battery with VV/VW and a soda can sized tank filled with my own DIY juice!!

i think at first having the tobacco company's on board will be great and will help to keep Ecigs from being banned,
but i also think they will fight to get Ecig's regulated in a way that will make it imposable for unique small company's to be able to have products on the market and in the long run will hurt the success of Ecigs, and not to mention the crap the tobacco company's will add to there E-liquid to make it more addictive by the time they are done with them they will probably be as bad as analogs for you.

I am sure I speak for others here when I say I hate the big tobacco companies. I watched my father die from health issues caused by an addiction that he couldn't beat, and I don't see any good to come from having the tobacco companies more involved. I agree with what jazon said above.

 

[zapped]

I also hope Im wrong but I think that when they regulate e-juice (we all know its coming sooner or later) that they are going to tax it like a pack of cigarettes. It might not happen all at once, the first tax might even be moderate but eventually we'll be paying more in taxes than we do for the actual product just like with cigarettes.

All that extra income that we enjoyed from not smoking is gonna go into these new taxes and in turn thats going to negatively affect all the cottage industries that have sprang up.People will be buying less mods and accessories because they dont have more disposable income and companies will end up going under.

This opens the door for companies like Lorillard and Phillip Morris to come in and start buying the remaining companies up and eventually they will control this market and the release of products just like they did with cigarettes.

So in a way you may be right, you guys might end up getting your wish for crappy cig-alikes but it wont be an upgrade for anyone except those who dont know any better...kinda like now

 

[zapped]

Haha...oh dear. You can't even face a big hard cold fact that the rest of the smoking world wouldn't dare use your beloved big ecigs/mods in public! Stop arguing over this, because you're dead wrong.

Why are cigs like blu number one sellers? Why where blu bought out? Because most people want small ecigs! (They are the future)

Stop getting insecure its pathetic. I'm starting to think you feel threatened by the mini ecig and you somehow think you are special because you use mods/large ecigs.

No I just decided not to feed a troll. Come back and talk to us when you know what you're talking about. Until then sit over there and be quiet, the adults are trying to have a conversation here.