The lady who caught on fire

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We may have copycats now charging batts unsafely and trying too make a buck.

Oh I hope not. Some-one would initially have to make a buck first from a real accident wouldn't they - before anyone was dumb enough to try and deliberately injure themselves to make a buck too.
 

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Some of my pv kits came with car chargers. I still have them somewhere. We don't know that it was an ego. But yes - there are ecig kits or lines that include car chargers. Commonly sold. Lots of people will have these Myk. For example Greensmoke sell car chargers for their ecigs- and a lot of people use Greensmoke.
BTW - the photo of the one from Arizona - I have a charger looks similar to that too. There isn't meant to be light on mine - the light on the end of the ecig goes out when its fully charged. In the photo in the news article it can't be seen if the ecig had that as its an after photo - and the end of the ecig is missing. So I wouldn't say user error when part of the ecig isn't visible to be able to see.

I forgot about those kinds of ecigs. That could be a problem for the manufacturer.
 

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I don't know what kind of charger arrangement was being used, but none of the eGo chargers I got in kits locally were recommended for charging in a car. I suppose when / if the lawsuit goes to trial there will be more information brought to light.

Just because a usb type eGo charger fits in a usb car adapter it doesn't meant the parts are compatible or as the attorney stated 'used as intended', just sayin' ;)
 

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I don't know what kind of charger arrangement was being used, but none of the eGo chargers I got in kits locally were recommended for charging in a car. I suppose when / if the lawsuit goes to trial there will be more information brought to light.

Just because a usb type eGo charger fits in a usb car adapter it doesn't meant the parts are compatible or as the attorney stated 'used as intended', just sayin' ;)

Why are people assuming it was an ego? There are a lot of other ecigs out there and some come with car chargers. One thing I doubt is that she would sue if she didn't use a car charger that went with the ecig. People can also buy pass through ecigs that are advertised as being suitable for vaping while plugged into the car power source as well.
We don't see this stuff so much on ECF, but there are a lot of these kind of ecigs being sold. They are marketed to new vapers as being handy because they are designed to be charged in the car too.
Some-one buying and using these is not doing anything wrong - for many vapers this is the norm. They are doing what was told to them that they can do. Using as "intended". I'm not looking for reasons to blame the vaper - although I don't think suing is the best response either.
 
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It just saddens me that ppl sue from their own negligence and stupidty. And to make things worse, they'll probably win :(

How was she negligent or stupid? She was charging her ecig on the way to the airport. I've done that myself several times. There are 2 incidents here. 1 was left unattended in a hot car... stupid. The other was just riding in the car charging her ecig. Nothing negligent there. I do think we are far too litigious but she did nothing wrong.
 

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It just saddens me that ppl sue from their own negligence and stupidty. And to make things worse, they'll probably win :(

How was she negligent or stupid Jimi - if she bought an ecig and was told it can be charged in a car and the vendor sells car chargers for the ecig- then what was negligent or stupid? She didn't leave it unattended.
I'm finding it strange that some people here don't seem to understand what sort of ecigs are being bought and what people are told.
 

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Overheating batteries will make them explode. Leaving batteries in a car, in the summer heat is not a smart thing to do. This has happened before.

You need to read the thread to see its a different event. The incident you are talking about - is not the one where the lady got hurt and is not the one where the lady is suing. You're talking about an incident in Arizona. The lady was hurt in California.
And really - if you read the OP and then read the report of the Arizona incident - it is kinda obvious that those are two different events.
I agree leaving a battery charging in a hot car is not a good move, but that's not what the OP was talking about.

Here's the article about the California incident:
http://www.pe.com/local-news/rivers...e-sues-over-exploding-e-cigarette-battery.ece
 
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Why are people assuming it was an ego? There are a lot of other ecigs out there and some come with car chargers. One thing I doubt is that she would sue if she didn't use a car charger that went with the ecig. People can also buy pass through ecigs that are advertised as being suitable for vaping while plugged into the car power source as well.
We don't see this stuff so much on ECF, but there are a lot of these kind of ecigs being sold. They are marketed to new vapers as being handy because they are designed to be charged in the car too.
Some-one buying and using these is not doing anything wrong - for many vapers this is the norm. They are doing what was told to them that they can do. Using as "intended". I'm not looking for reasons to blame the vaper - although I don't think suing is the best response either.
Not to offend, but I didn't assume. It's spelled out in the article what the device is "Jennifer Ries bought the VapCigs EHookah E-Cigarette Starter Kit, which included the charger cable and battery, on March 21."

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Not to offend, but I didn't assume. It's spelled out in the article what the device is "Jennifer Ries bought the VapCigs EHookah E-Cigarette Starter Kit, which included the charger cable and battery, on March 21."

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Yes I saw that - but that doesn't say it was an ego. I saw they have those batteries thereas well - but I didn't see a whole kit there like the article says.
Unless that's the whole kit - doesn't look like it though.
Anyways - ok, may have been one of those, but so what? They clearly sell a car charger and a cable that they say can be used in the car too. USB Car Charger Adapter
So she didn't do anything wrong by using it - this is what she was sold and it was for use in the car.

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QUOTE=Glen Snyder]I don't know what kind of charger arrangement was being used, but none of the eGo chargers I got in kits locally were recommended for charging in a car. I suppose when / if the lawsuit goes to trial there will be more information brought to light.

Just because a usb type eGo charger fits in a usb car adapter it doesn't meant the parts are compatible or as the attorney stated 'used as intended', just sayin' ;)

So if you weren't assuming why didn't you pick up on the fact that the chargers are sold by the vendor for use in the car, and that's what she used it for? No offence to you but seems to me you didn't look at this at the time you posted.
 
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How was she negligent or stupid? She was charging her ecig on the way to the airport. I've done that myself several times. There are 2 incidents here. 1 was left unattended in a hot car... stupid. The other was just riding in the car charging her ecig. Nothing negligent there. I do think we are far too litigious but she did nothing wrong.

Here's the link to the charger accessory that goes with the "EHookah" she says she bought.

Electric Cigarette EGO Battery USB Charger

Read the warning.

That also specifies that it's a 4.2v charger, which is consistent with eGo specs for chargers.

Kiwi is right--I don't know what happened because I don't know for sure what type of outlet she was plugged into.

I do know what causes otherwise functional batteries to go into thermal armageddon when not discharging in actual use, and both of the incidents that are in this thread show all of the signs of the batteries getting too much current during charging. Because of that, and because of the fact that both individuals either knew, should have known or could have known that overcharging batteries is dangerous, they are at least as much at fault as the manufacturer/vendor.
 

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Back when I used cig-a-likes the kit came with a car adapter specifically for the usb charger to plug into. Although it seems that this exploding battery could have just as easily happened at home. I often plug my twist into the charger and go to bed. Guess that's why they say never leave them unattended.
 

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So if you weren't assuming why didn't you pick up on the fact that the chargers are sold by the vendor for use in the car, and that's what she used it for? No offence to you but seems to me you didn't look at this at the time you posted.

I don't see where the store selling the charger makes a difference. Walmart sells ammonia and chlorine bleach, that doesn't make them responsible for someone mixing the two.

It's a cheap adapter. Coupled with cheap knockoff batteries. Exactly what responsibility do you think the user should have in this?
I don't fully trust my Joyetech batteries with Joyetech chargers and Joyetech adapters, I certainly don't aim them at my body while they're being charged. Do you think she's absolved of all responsibility mixing and matching junk just because it fits?
 

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What is all this "E-hookah" stuff from that stupid site? If you look at the "Hookah Ego Batteries" it says:

"Warning: Use only with 4.2 volt VapCigs EGO USB Hookah Charger. Do not use with VapCigs VC ToGo charger or any "510 USB Thumb"/5.0 volt charger. Use with any other chargers may cause risk of fire. Do not charge in an automobile. Always use with surge protection. Keep away from extreme temperatures. Do not disassemble, overcharge, heat, or incinerate. "
 

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Here's the link to the charger accessory that goes with the "EHookah" she says she bought.

Electric Cigarette EGO Battery USB Charger

I'm not so sure that is the one she bought. They have this one:
USB Wall Charger Adapter
and it says this:
"This 3 foot USB extension cable allows you to place your VC ToGo USB Charger in a safe convenient spot. No more bumping into the charger sticking out of your computer or dashboard. Charge your VapCig in your center console or next to your computer. "

So if she bought that and used that - she did nothing wrong. I find it odd they have that wording there and different wording on what you linked - wondering if they changed it since what has happened.
 
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