The MVP v2 popularity is really showing here on ECF

[Garemlin]

The iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group is the most active section in the Variable Voltage APV Discussion:

Replies: 5,039

Followed second by the The innokin iTaste VV V3 owners group

Replies: 2054

As far as views the iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group:

Views: 255,389

Followed second by the sigelei Zmax V3 Telescopic (flat top or other) reports: one week later

Views: 131,983

 

[PaulBHC]

In part I think it is the jump in active members since New Year Day. Price/taxes of smokes and other tobacco plus more restrictions on where you can/can't plus health insurance and employer pressure has caused more people to quit. Some of those turn to vape. Some of those find ECF. Some of those get the sales pitch from us. Then there has been price wars among the online retailers making them one of the best deals in VV VW vaping.

I keep searching for other PVs and just can't justify anything but another MVP. Cheapest VV V3 is 26 and only lasts part of a day. For another 20 or so I can get another MVP and go for days.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Provari gets a lot of action as well. The MVP2 deserves the action it gets since only Innokin makes a very affordable mod for now under $40.00 with most US vendors. Not even Fasttech can beat US prices. The VV3 by Innokin is now selling under $30.00.

 

[p.opus]

In my opinion, you have have basically two choices in a regulated mod.

The MVP or the ProVari.

These two devices can't be any more different, but in my opinion, it's the only two choices to be had.

The MVP2 is your value move. It is probably the best bang for your buck. It's a great vape, has great features, and is capable of being a primary vape and quality backup vape. It's also easy and inexpensive to replace. And it's best part is that it's disposable. There is no expectation it will last. It's built well enough to last throughout it's battery life and that's it. You use it until it fails and you replace it. End of story.

The ProVari is your long term move. It has 4 years of proven design and performance. It is a quality built. It's more expensive by a factor of 4 but it will last. It may not have all the features of some of the newer mods, but it does what it does extremely well.

The other 33.3 hz mods are fine products but they dupe you into believing you have something that will last forever and you later find out you don't. At least the MVP doesn't set you up for disappointment. You know going in, it's going to fail eventually.

For the new generation of DNA based units, time will tell. There are many choices out there and they look to be high quality, but time will tell whether these units will pass the test of time.

People can complain about the ProVari being long in the tooth. I was one of them. But one thing about being long in the tooth....It's proven to last.

If I am looking for a year long investment, I'd go with an MVP. If I want something to last longer, it's a ProVari.

 

[PaulBHC]

If the cycle life is 200-300 and you go with 300 that is almost a year. If you charge every 3 days, that could be 3 years. Very optimistic I'm sure but even a year and a half would be a great value at ~$50.

Then I can make an Altoids mod from the bits. MAybe I should buy a VV3 for the parts to make a box mod...

 

[Garemlin]

If the cycle life is 200-300 and you go with 300 that is almost a year. If you charge every 3 days, that could be 3 years. Very optimistic I'm sure but even a year and a half would be a great value at ~$50.

Then I can make an Altoids mod from the bits. MAybe I should buy a VV3 for the parts to make a box mod...

Good quality smartphones have a long battery life. In fact I still have my old Droid X that I bought at release in 2010 and I still use it for the FM turner at NASCAR races. Battery is still going strong and holding a charge. And it used to get charged daily and sometimes twice a day if heavy use. To think the MVP battery will last 2 years isn't raising the bar too high since many people get two days out of a charge. With the fact that many people are getting two of them an rotating 3-4 years would not be out of the question either. For the price that they are it would owe you absolutely nothing. Paid for itself and then some.

 

[Pinggolfer]

My two cents is only for my use. First I think any serious smoker certainly can afford a Provari. I know I can. I have never vaped on a Provari and would love to compare vaping my juice in my MVP2 and IB Tanked carto tank setup at lets say 4.3 volts on each unit.

I'm 65 and have smoked for 45 years so I figure I'm on borrowed time as it is. Unless the vape with the same voltage is way better then my MVP2 I see no reason at my age to own one. I'm not on a fixed income and have been retired for 3 year now. I can afford a new Corvette or Cadillac so a few hundred for a mod is not my issue.

I've spent $200 on 3 new IB Tanked and cartos for it so buying a Provari has never been a issue for me. To be honest I'm not looking for something that will last 5 or more years and lets face it in a year or two the Provari as it is now may be an elephant.

 

[Keynith]

Did you guys just start another thread to continue talking about the mvp? Haha just kidding.

But yeah i think the mvp is a good starter device. No messing with batteries, no dragging around spares, and no worry of dropping and breaking it (to a point). It really is a plug and play device.

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[olderthandirt]

Dear Garemlin

Just a quick note to let ya know that you have just been placed at the top of my list.

List of enablers that is (-:

I'm more than familiar with the MVP, not from use but from threads and posts on ECF. I like the Innokin products I have used to date.
I have a Provari and love the thing.
I have a couple of iTaste VV3's, love em'.

For some reason though this thread you have chosen to start has pushed a button. Where before I had thought the MVP might be something to consider simply for variety in the arsenal, now I'm thinking I must get an MVP.

Way ta go......


(-;

 

[PaulBHC]

I just went over 1500 since Friday afternoon charge in my van and the button went yellow. A coworker gave me a long phone charger cord and lighter adapter. Right now I am charging off of a wall wart in a power strip next to my chair and vaping with it.

Meanwhile I wasted some time looking a eVics and the modding forum and DNA parts and ZMax boards and Altoids mods and I think I will just use my MVP till it dies and rob the parts for a mod with battery/ies. (DNA20 parts kit with charger board and buttons and 510 $89)

 

[Garemlin]

Dear Garemlin

Just a quick note to let ya know that you have just been placed at the top of my list.

List of enablers that is (-:

I'm more than familiar with the MVP, not from use but from threads and posts on ECF. I like the Innokin products I have used to date.
I have a Provari and love the thing.
I have a couple of iTaste VV3's, love em'.

For some reason though this thread you have chosen to start has pushed a button. Where before I had thought the MVP might be something to consider simply for variety in the arsenal, now I'm thinking I must get an MVP.

Way ta go......


(-;

One thing I really LOVE is helping others. Spend their money that is. LOL

 

[Pinggolfer]

One thing I really LOVE is helping others. Spend their money that is. LOL

The fact is you can't get a better mod for the same price. I'm anxious to see how many $40. MVP 2's are still working after a year of service. I have 7 more months to find out.

 

[p.opus]

The fact is you can't get a better mod for the same price. I'm anxious to see how many $40. MVP 2's are still working after a year of service. I have 7 more months to find out.

Even at 1 year, you are looking at $3.33/month. Not too shabby. I'm gonna have to keep my ProVari for 4.5 years to match that cost per month.

 

[PaulBHC]

After spending too much time on these forums...

I think I would like to see Innokin come up with something between the VV3 and the MVP. A 1-2 day battery pack, half the width and weight of the MVP, priced in between. Or someone else do it but who's gonna go first?

 

[Pinggolfer]

After spending too much time on these forums...

I think I would like to see Innokin come up with something between the VV3 and the MVP. A 1-2 day battery pack, half the width and weight of the MVP, priced in between. Or someone else do it but who's gonna go first?

If they could work a 1300 mAh battery into a device half the with of the MVP I'd call that a winner. Looking at the VV3 and MVP it looks duable.

 

[p.opus]

After spending too much time on these forums...

I think I would like to see Innokin come up with something between the VV3 and the MVP. A 1-2 day battery pack, half the width and weight of the MVP, priced in between. Or someone else do it but who's gonna go first?

If they could work a 1300 mAh battery into a device half the with of the MVP I'd call that a winner. Looking at the VV3 and MVP it looks duable.

Sounds great, but what price point are you going for? I mean the price difference between an MVP and VV3 is miniscule as it is, especially when you consider the deep discounts going on.

Now if you made an MVP that used an 18650 or 18500 battery, had the same regulation circuit that was in the MVP and VV3 and wasn't the size of a VTR, then I think you add some value to the proposition, but another disposable at 1300 mAh just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Sounds great, but what price point are you going for? I mean the price difference between an MVP and VV3 is miniscule as it is, especially when you consider the deep discounts going on.

Now if you made an MVP that used an 18650 or 18500 battery, had the same regulation circuit that was in the MVP and VV3 and wasn't the size of a VTR, then I think you add some value to the proposition, but another disposable at 1300 mAh just doesn't make sense to me.

Granted the price point would be close to what it is now. Also sales for both would decline making them almost obsolete.

I know nothing about replaceable batteries and how long they last on a charge. rechargeable in the unit via a usb port and not being a paper weight is interesting. Also must last a full day.

 

[p.opus]

I think the MVP2 is perfect as it is. It is a great entry level MVP that offers tremendous bang for your buck and allows you to experience high quality vaping without a huge initial investment.

The design decisions they made on the product makes sense from a price/build quality/feature standpoint.

If anything, I would like an expanded voltage/wattage range to accommodate the newer dual coil builds coming out.

I would keep everything else the same. By re-using as many components in the MVP 1 and 2 product line, you lower overall cost of manufacture and raise profit margin.

I am ok with the warts in the package (P and U buttons, puff counter, exposed USB ports). I am under no expectation that this device will last over a year.

I really would like the new version to be virtually unchanged so that when my MVP2 does die, I have an MVP3 equivalent at the same pricepoint and form factor....

 

[Pinggolfer]

My smart phone is a 3G BlackBerry that is 3 years old using the same OEM battery. I use it daily and use the GPS twice a week when playing golf. It has an exposed micro usb port and this phone has taken a beating riding and bouncing in the golf cart. Still goes 2 days on a charge and it must have over 500 charges on it.

I see my MVP 2 and VV3's lasting a year.

 

[PaulBHC]

Sounds great, but what price point are you going for? I mean the price difference between an MVP and VV3 is miniscule as it is, especially when you consider the deep discounts going on.

Now if you made an MVP that used an 18650 or 18500 battery, had the same regulation circuit that was in the MVP and VV3 and wasn't the size of a VTR, then I think you add some value to the proposition, but another disposable at 1300 mAh just doesn't make sense to me.

IF Innokin could get retailers to stick to the MSRP... VV3s would be close to 40 and MVPs 70. A tweener at 50-55 might make sense. Or they drop the MVP because of the VTR. Not likely as many as are being sold. I think you are right, the price is too close now. That's the main reason I haven't sprung for a 26.99 VV3. Or a 19.95 ego/vision/clone VV.