The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

[JPoodles]

I have a butane torch. I was surprised how quickly it softened. I played with closing the ends as you say by twirling and letting gravity shape it. Made some kind of neat shapes but the heat of the softened glass was too much for the Silver NR wire to withstand I tried to find one of Dan's posts where he mentioned some kind of sealant goo (silicone or epoxy?) that was safe and heat resistant. I may also look for some Nickel NR wire (melting point 1453°C) that would work great with closing the glass.

High Temperature Adhesives and Epoxies, Ceramics, Insulation, Epoxies and Epoxy
not sure how thick these are but could probably use one of these in a similar fashion as the enamel idea too. Note that one of these is conductive.

 

[asdaq]

Well everything is kind of mix and match-able. So the mid "atty chamber" could be removed and the top camber just moved down, however if I did that I would probably swap out the poly with aluminum on the top chamber....but it would depend on the heat. The poly is kinda nice to seeing whats going on.

This could stay poly safely. In builds with the coil not centered and close to the wall of plexi I had some problems with melting with accidental firing and have changed to aluminum. In these cases the coil was very close and it isn't a problem with just a bit more distance between the two. Here the coil is quite far from the poly tube.

From the pdf I see you want a one way valve, which could be quite problematic to get working. The only implementation I have seen in an ecig is the use of a mister sprayer, but otherwise they are talked about and that is where it ends. You could achieve the same with a plug with a very small drain hole and rely on gravity and surface tension to keep it from flooding, or more simply a plug of mesh.

Just my thoughts, carry on.

 

[bapgood]

High Temperature Adhesives and Epoxies, Ceramics, Insulation, Epoxies and Epoxy
not sure how thick these are but could probably use one of these in a similar fashion as the enamel idea too. Note that one of these is conductive.

Some of us have looked at similar things, but they all have something similar to this.

From the 940 msds http://www.sflee.co.kr/composites/cotronics/msds/940 940AL 940 LE.pdf

"Precautions To Be Taken After Use And Upon Removal: This product as
manufactured is a Silicate could transform upon heating to mullet and crystobalite (a
form of crystalline silica). Removal of this product after use may result in the generation
of dust. Repeated inhalation of respirable free crystalline silica dust may cause delayed
lung injury (silicosis)."

 

[bapgood]

From the pdf I see you want a one way valve, which could be quite problematic to get working. The only implementation I have seen in an ecig is the use of a mister sprayer, but otherwise they are talked about and that is where it ends. You could achieve the same with a plug with a very small drain hole and rely on gravity and surface tension to keep it from flooding, or more simply a plug of mesh.

I was thinking of maybe a ball valve style. But I'm not worried to much about right now, but if I start packing it around to much I would want something to stop juice from filling the top chamber.

 

[VaporMizer]

Some of us have looked at similar things, but they all have samething similar to this.

From the 940 msds http://www.sflee.co.kr/composites/cotronics/msds/940 940AL 940 LE.pdf

"Precautions To Be Taken After Use And Upon Removal: This product as
manufactured is a Silicate could transform upon heating to mullet and crystobalite (a
form of crystalline silica). Removal of this product after use may result in the generation
of dust. Repeated inhalation of respirable free crystalline silica dust may cause delayed
lung injury (silicosis)."

I think the Resbond 920 ceramic stuff seems right for this application. All these different Resbond adhesives are made from different stuff...but I'd still want it sealed...like filling the void between an inner coiled tube and an outer insulator tube with ceramic washers also cemented in place as endcaps. That way all the adhesive stuff is on the inside...seems like it would ad a little safety factor


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[Big Screen D]

One of the hurdles with variations of the glass tube coils is delayed heat up time. So what would be helpful is a PV that is capable of variable, variable voltage. Something that could be programed to run at say 5v for .5 seconds, then step down to say 4v for example.

Interestingly, just in time, here comes a programmable PV with a USB interface, that I've no doubt one of resident techies could fix right up.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/353901-ovale-evic-future-vaping.html

 

[JPoodles]

One of the hurdles with variations of the glass tube coils is delayed heat up time. So what would be helpful is a PV that is capable of variable, variable voltage. Something that could be programed to run at say 5v for .5 seconds, then step down to say 4v for example.

Interestingly, just in time, here comes a programmable PV with a USB interface, that I've no doubt one of resident techies could fix right up.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/353901-ovale-evic-future-vaping.html

Do I need to surf the latest posts more often or is there a way to stay updated with inovation that is simpler? I'll do my homework but I like cliff notes.

 

[DigiManTX]

i would be grateful of someone would be willing to spare a small piece of FQ to test this out on my AGA... trying to determine whether or not it's "for me"...

 

[Big Screen D]

Do I need to surf the latest posts more often or is there a way to stay updated with inovation that is simpler? I'll do my homework but I like cliff notes.

Joyetech Joye eVic control head

Cliff notes is the device can have it's firmware re-flashed. So it's hackable.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Not much you can't find here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/132663-all-my-mods-part1.html#post7912276

Thx BJ43, that's an awesome thread with tons of great information. It's really cool to go back and observe the evolution. I had to laugh around post 150 when he says "325 or 400 mash only, 500 is impossible". Now 500 is common and folks are working with 635...

I agree that I may not be able to get enough #500 on there to wick. I'm using 2.5mm OD thin-walled tubing and my wick hole is 3.5mm so I'll only get 5-6 wraps. If there are issues, I'll move down to 2mm tube (coil will easily fit) and add another 2-3 wraps (hopefully 7-9 layers of #500 would provide enough capillary action to be usable).

 

[beamrider]

I could be wrong, but I've been using common 100% silicone caulking to seal a lot of food related items with no issues. Once cured, it should be food safe, and heat resistant as well. I mean they make silicone baking sheets, muffin molds, etc, for use in an oven with no problems, right? Someone take one of the inner silicone plugs from the batt end of a boge carto and see if the tip is small enough to seal what you want to.

 

[Rlafontaine1971]

I could be wrong, but I've been using common 100% silicone caulking to seal a lot of food related items with no issues. Once cured, it should be food safe, and heat resistant as well. I mean they make silicone baking sheets, muffin molds, etc, for use in an oven with no problems, right? Someone take one of the inner silicone plugs from the batt end of a boge carto and see if the tip is small enough to seal what you want to.

There is food grade silicone but what your using more than like is not. It would say it on the packaging and i'm not sure which stores would even carry it. The food grade silicon that i'm familiar with is white in color. As long as the material is cured and you don't injest any then it doesnt matter.

 

[bzmotoninja83]

Joyetech Joye eVic control head

Cliff notes is the device can have it's firmware re-flashed. So it's hackable.

im not sure this one supports quick change profiles. the one that Janty is coming out with called the MiD is able to readily switch between 4 user profiles. so you could have the warm up stage and then the super hot BLASTER IM A FIRIN MAH LAZAR!!!! stage...... no slick oled display but you have to trade off one perc for another. that is untill Joyetech uses Janty's designs again....


Mid Series

Also, its 510/Ego threading...... not sure about the evic. havent gotten that far in the interwebz yet.

 

[TBinAZ]

Ok guys, sorry this is taking up room in this thread. Great ideas flowing.

Update... I just received the tube a few minutes ago. The tubes were packaged in a friggin brick house. I can see what they mean about shipping now. The item of interest? He sent me 12 feet of it, not 8, for no charge (except for shipping). So, needless to say, I may be offering longer lengths to those who are already signed up and whatnot. If you already sent me a PM and are interested in longer lengths, let me know and I will see how this goes after I snap the smaller stuff. The downside is that I may have to charge a bit of shipping for them. I still need to scope out packaging tubes and what shipping charge would be involved. I really can't see it being unreasonable. I will contact you via PM when I can figure that out. Let me know.

EDIT: Just to reiterate, if you're interested in longer lengths and have already PM'ed me, send me another one letting me know you're interested, and how much you would want. I will follow-up once I can get the original orders filled.

 

[beamrider]

There is food grade silicone but what your using more than like is not. It would say it on the packaging and i'm not sure which stores would even carry it. The food grade silicon that i'm familiar with is white in color. As long as the material is cured and you don't injest any then it doesnt matter.

I'm thinking any 100% silicone caulking should be OK, my tubes always say something like "ok for use in food grade environments". But you're right, once it cures ( and that nasty sharp smell goes away), it is fairly inert (as least for my purposes). Been using it for years to seal up the water delivery tube on a Bunn coffeemaker....

 

[KillFace]

My apologies if someone else has come up with this idea. I haven't read all of this thread, but I thought of this last night.

One tube inside another with a coil wrapped inside the inner surface of the inner tube. The inner tube is sealed at the top.

Either mesh or cotton to somehow coat the surface of the inner tube with juice. I'll leave that up to you.

The juice vaporizes off the hot surface of the inner tube.

Like juice being vaporized on the surface of a lightbulb.

The outside tube can be insulating to keep the heat where it's needed. Ceramic?

Problem is, where to enter the coil into the inner tube? And how to coil it inside? Perhaps the inner tube top could be unsealed and protrude above the outer tube with the coil dropped in.

 

[JazzyTech]

im not sure this one supports quick change profiles. the one that Janty is coming out with called the MiD is able to readily switch between 4 user profiles. so you could have the warm up stage and then the super hot BLASTER IM A FIRIN MAH LAZAR!!!! stage...... no slick oled display but you have to trade off one perc for another. that is untill Joyetech uses Janty's designs again....


Mid Series

Also, its 510/Ego threading...... not sure about the evic. havent gotten that far in the interwebz yet.

I watched a German review of this and the guy mentions it supports multiple users. He was not clear if that was only software-based. He also mentioned it being a prototype and that the firm/software was being improved.

 

[Killjoy1]

Ok guys, sorry this is taking up room in this thread. Great ideas flowing.

Update... I just received the tube a few minutes ago. The tubes were packaged in a friggin brick house. I can see what they mean about shipping now. The item of interest? He sent me 12 feet of it, not 8, for no charge (except for shipping). So, needless to say, I may be offering longer lengths to those who are already signed up and whatnot. If you already sent me a PM and are interested in longer lengths, let me know and I will see how this goes after I snap the smaller stuff. The downside is that I may have to charge a bit of shipping for them. I still need to scope out packaging tubes and what shipping charge would be involved. I really can't see it being unreasonable. I will contact you via PM when I can figure that out. Let me know.

EDIT: Just to reiterate, if you're interested in longer lengths and have already PM'ed me, send me another one letting me know you're interested, and how much you would want. I will follow-up once I can get the original orders filled.

It is not at all unreasonable to ask for shipping costs, I fully expected that in the first place. As for shipping tubes, for the small lengths we're talking about here maybe one of these options may be viable? Some of them are less than a buck each

On a related note, I think I must be way down the list on Wilmad's orders, haven't got mine yet. I'm patient, though

 

[Cjax]

Ok guys, sorry this is taking up room in this thread. Great ideas flowing.

Update... I just received the tube a few minutes ago. The tubes were packaged in a friggin brick house. I can see what they mean about shipping now. The item of interest? He sent me 12 feet of it, not 8, for no charge (except for shipping). So, needless to say, I may be offering longer lengths to those who are already signed up and whatnot. If you already sent me a PM and are interested in longer lengths, let me know and I will see how this goes after I snap the smaller stuff. The downside is that I may have to charge a bit of shipping for them. I still need to scope out packaging tubes and what shipping charge would be involved. I really can't see it being unreasonable. I will contact you via PM when I can figure that out. Let me know.

EDIT: Just to reiterate, if you're interested in longer lengths and have already PM'ed me, send me another one letting me know you're interested, and how much you would want. I will follow-up once I can get the original orders filled.

You'll have to let us know how easy they are to snap w/ precision. Do you gotta cut 'em with a dremmel or can you just score 'em and snap 'em like regular glass.

 

[TBinAZ]

It's pretty tiny tubing, so we'll see. At least I have a lot more 'wiggle' room going now than I had originally thought. I'll let y'all know how it goes. I have diamond wheels and some other diamond bits that I got for pretty cheap.

You'll have to let us know how easy they are to snap w/ precision. Do you gotta cut 'em with a dremmel or can you just score 'em and snap 'em like regular glass.