The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

[k3vin]

Ok we are trying to make a light bulb on a steeeek... Forgive my humor I just got up..


But on a serious note... For some reason the guts of a lightbulb have my curiosity up when reading and talking about what we are trying to do..

So I am trying to get this seed out there to you guys.. There is tungsten in most bulb filaments, also, we throw 120v at a bulb to heat up the filament,but in vaping we only use low voltage/ low watts. So why not try to stuff a light bulb filament into one of our tubes.. Granted the filaments won't be in a vacuum, and hence the possibility of combustion of the filament but I am thinking at the low voltage we vape at, that the filament in say a 100 watt bulb would be able to handle it even in an oxygen atmosphere..

Anyway, just throwing this out there... I am about to go look for some nr wire around town, and buy a few bulbs to dissect and experiment on..




"I'm a man, I can change,if I have too,I guess"
Red Green

 

[JPoodles]

Ok we are trying to make a light bulb on a steeeek... Forgive my humor I just got up..


But on a serious note... For some reason the guts of a lightbulb have my curiosity up when reading and talking about what we are trying to do..

So I am trying to get this seed out there to you guys.. There is tungsten in most bulb filaments, also, we throw 120v at a bulb to heat up the filament,but in vaping we only use low voltage/ low watts. So why not try to stuff a light bulb filament into one of our tubes.. Granted the filaments won't be in a vacuum, and hence the possibility of combustion of the filament but I am thinking at the low voltage we vape at, that the filament in say a 100 watt bulb would be able to handle it even in an oxygen atmosphere..

Anyway, just throwing this out there... I am about to go look for some nr wire around town, and buy a few bulbs to dissect and experiment on..




"I'm a man, I can change,if I have too,I guess"
Red Green

The resistance within tungsten is extremely low in comparison to Kanthal and Nichrome. The drain on the battery would be too immense. Or at least thats how I've understood it.

 

[k3vin]

Thanks for the heads up poodles..

On another note, I found silver beading wire,wire connectors and tool at wm over by the fabric area at my local wm..

I didn't get the connectors or tool but I did get the silver wire...


"I'm a man, I can change,if I have too,I guess"
Red Green

 

[dsy5]

The resistance within tungsten is extremely low in comparison to Kanthal and Nichrome. The drain on the battery would be too immense. Or at least thats how I've understood it.

Also very brittle...

 

[dsy5]

I've tried it on just the wick and just the coil and both left a bad bad taste. I wonder if doing an extensive juice curing would solve that. Instead of juice curing 3 times like some of us used to do to ready the wick. Why not juice cure like 10 or twenty times. Maybe that will solve the ickyness. I would try myself but have limited ssmesh left and no time to play (sent from work )

At work also; if I get time tonight, I will give this a try. I think I might also try just soaking in baking soda overnight - just a torching to the mesh, soak, roll and no heat/quench cycles.

 

[bstedh]

going back to the idea of the enamel powder... How about grinding some pyrex into a powder and placing the coil into it while fireing it to creat a pyrex enamel on the coil??? Too much heat for the coil???

 

[bstedh]

I always clean my genesis coils with a hot dry burn and dunk under the faucet. Guess we don't want to do that with glass in the atomizer

 

[Brealistic0]

What type of glass is used in hid bulbs?
I'm going to take a bulb out of my car today to see how wide it is.

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[mre777]

going back to the idea of the enamel powder... How about grinding some pyrex into a powder and placing the coil into it while fireing it to creat a pyrex enamel on the coil??? Too much heat for the coil???

All enamel seems to be is a very fine powdered glass so it might just work. I dont have any spare pryrex to try this out though. I wasn't having much luck with the regular enamel I bought but I only have a little butane torch and no experience with the stuff.

I saw another possible adhesive in the store today QuikSteel-Plastic-Repair and what caught my eye was:
NSF-61 drinking water safe
500 degree Fahrenheit temperature resistant,
impervious to chemicals
and on the package it shows it has a very high electrical resistance value, something like 10x10 to the 15th
Now the 500 degree thing is suspect and we still dont have a definitive answer on the average coil temp we use
and i cant find a true msds on it

 

[kwalka]

Hey all.
I've been following this thread, for the most part, until you went way over my head

Anyway here are some pics of my very first attempt. I ordered 2 7" pcs of pyrex, from Wilmad back in the beginning of the thread. I just cut a pc, it fit right over my Chobra exposed wick, wrapped a coil w 30ga that came out right at 1.7Ω. The thing was a steam machine until I tried to slide the wick up a hair with the glass hot. A pc broke off the top, so now I'm going to start over. BTW this is 3mm thin walled tubing. Also I am aware that I need to get FQ instead of pyrex.

 

[bapgood]

Lunch was trip to the Vet and Micheal's
- Couple of 14 gauge needles for some dual helix action
- Aunt Lydia's Bamboo thread to try and use for some testing
- Wire, Crimp Tubes, and micro crimping pliers

Between this and all my RC stuff I think I'm going to be on the next episode of hoarders

 

[Chopper71]

Would this be any of help?I have my Pyrex tubes coming in tomorrow.Would the Quartz be better then the Pyrex?

http://quartzscientific.thomasnet.c...sed-quartz-tubing/clear-fused-quartz-tubing-2

 

[LucidAce]

Hey all.
I've been following this thread, for the most part, until you went way over my head

Anyway here are some pics of my very first attempt. I ordered 2 7" pcs of pyrex, from Wilmad back in the beginning of the thread. I just cut a pc, it fit right over my Chobra exposed wick, wrapped a coil w 30ga that came out right at 1.7Ω. The thing was a steam machine until I tried to slide the wick up a hair with the glass hot. A pc broke off the top, so now I'm going to start over. BTW this is 3mm thin walled tubing. Also I am aware that I need to get FQ instead of pyrex.

Hey, kwalka! Thanks for sharing your early findings. Be sure to also check out this thread; maybe post this there as well: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/355145-new-dans-scubaqu-only.html

 

[DizGrizz]

Chopper71, the idea of fused quartz has been discussed and it seems like most of us think that's probably the way to go...but pyrex has been easier to get and few of us have an FQ yet (on it's way to a lot of us).

 

[synthros]

I don't know if this is precisely on topic, this is all a bit beyond me, but did anyone see this? Seems like this modder is at least in the same key of thought if not on the precise page an interesting idea in any event.....

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/356414-good-steam.html

 

[bert1983]

Hey all.
I've been following this thread, for the most part, until you went way over my head

Anyway here are some pics of my very first attempt. I ordered 2 7" pcs of pyrex, from Wilmad back in the beginning of the thread. I just cut a pc, it fit right over my Chobra exposed wick, wrapped a coil w 30ga that came out right at 1.7Ω. The thing was a steam machine until I tried to slide the wick up a hair with the glass hot. A pc broke off the top, so now I'm going to start over. BTW this is 3mm thin walled tubing. Also I am aware that I need to get FQ instead of pyrex.

Can you post a close-up picture of the chip?

 

[Big Screen D]

Made a pass through Micheal's today and picked up some micro clamps and crimping pliers.

So I have everything in house now to make some more inner coils. Everything but time. Lady of the house's birthday tomorrow, then Thursday night at the old folks home. TGIF can't come soon enough.

Day three vaping the mini tube and still chugging along.

Dug up some info on the type of tubes I'm using. Turns out they are thin walled for the express purpose of transferring heat efficiently to material being tested within in order to determine the melting point of the test material.

http://www.chem.umass.edu/~samal/269/mp.pdf

 

[mre777]

Ok notes on the JB experiment:
I dry tested my small one caped at both ends was reading 2.2 ohms and i hooked it straight to a battery measuring 3.6v
Heat from coil is to much for regular JB weld. It started burning after a few long fires, proly 15-20 secs each
After i saw the smoke i knew that was not vapable so what did i do? I kept that sucker burning to see what would happen coil was going strong for a minute or so then Boom! The hot air expanded to much for the weakened JB weld and that thing popped like a little fire cracker right out the end sealed with the JB. Coil still works lol but people may want to be careful trying to seal both ends. The glass made it through the whole thing fine as did the coil but regular JB weld does not have enough high heat resistance, and i can't seem to find the high heat JB at a local store

 

[Big Screen D]

"but people may want to be careful trying to seal both ends."

Good advice. Even both ends are fused closed, and it seems stable, I'd be concerned that if even a very small amount of juice found it's way to the coil without an adequate escape route, the steam would pop the tube at the most inopportune time.

 

[DizGrizz]

"but people may want to be careful trying to seal both ends."

Good advice. Even both ends are fused closed, and it seems stable, I'd be concerned that if even a very small amount of juice found it's way to the coil without an adequate escape route, the steam would pop the tube at the most inopportune time.

This is why I'm really liking the SS needle idea...no glass involved. Don't know what a catastrophic failure of a needle heater would be like but I'm sure a catastrophic failure of a glass tube would not be a good thing to be sucking on. Me thinks we may have to just live with one end being open or, at least very slightly open.

Perhaps, if we crimped the bottom of the needle completely (capturing the wire for axial lead styles) and partially crimped the top of the needle then re-dipped in soda and, while flaming the soda, crimp it closed completely. The heat inside the tube should force most of the air out of the tube and leave at least a partial vacuum. That is, if sealing it did not cut through the soda coating and short out the coil.

EDIT: Man I'm on the ball...totally forgot to thank mre777 for the trial and the updates. Even a fail is something learned...and I bet it was entertaining when it popped!