The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

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Jimi D.

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unfortunately, the inside of the pyrex will get heavily gunked and need cleaning quite often so glass will need to be removed and new coils will need wrapping. after one tank you see how brown dans is, imagine after a week!
My coils were getting gunked in a couple of days with the Genesis method. I think this hybrid method is worth a shot.

I'm going to Radio Shack to speed up the shipping process. :D
 

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I defiantly think its worth a shot, but I'm sceptical of it being a hybrid method.
Thinking out loud, perhaps a system like the Israeli atty The transformer, might work where a drop of liquid drops onto a fg wick, however instead of an fg wick arrangement we would have a pyrex dish with a flat heating element in contact with the underside of the glass, and an airflow over that dish??? Too complex, perhaps, perhaps not.
 

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wesweswes:7825121 said:
I still dont get the point of doing this with ss mesh, after some practice you no longer get hotspots, with drill bit method its quick and easy to swap out wicks and the mesh is still in contact with the juice so there are no added 'health' benefits from this method. So what's the point?

is this just an isolation, if so it seems like an expensive time consumer!

Now, get rid of the mesh and we might have something here, but this i feel involves a totally different system of vaporising, ie liquid that pools in a pyrex dish with heat source underneath...i dont know, but just using it as an isolator to stop shorts seems daft.

A lot if potential benefits. Led gunk on coils is only one. Did you see how easy it was to remove the ss? That would make cleaning easy, would make it easy to switch flavors, just pull the quick and sumo the juice, fill with new flavor, drop in new wick and go. Etc.
 

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While I think it is off topic a bit I see others talking about other possible ideas and I'll throw one out that has come to mind.
A pressurized misting system that used the coil only to heat and atomize the juice further. The head would be complex to build though.
It would require an electrical valve, a needle valve adjustment, and of course a pressure source.
 

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A lot if potential benefits. Led gunk on coils is only one. Did you see how easy it was to remove the ss? That would make cleaning easy, would make it easy to switch flavors, just pull the quick and sumo the juice, fill with new flavor, drop in new wick and go. Etc.

It comes to mind that you could reuse wicks too. I don't know how effective boiling them would be but I think it might be worth a shot. Spent wick gets boiled and a new one dropped in.
 

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I don't want to be the first to bring negative feedback but a friend just tried it on an aga-t using a glass fuse following breaktru's tip. While it steams like a train without the top cap on it produces no vapor at all when he places the cap in place. He tried various positions of the air hole.
What could we be doing wrong?

I would check the resistance in your coil and the power your suppling to it. I just dropped one wrap from my coil and vapor production increase. Vapor production was ok initially, but I wanted more, I am still playing with the coil to power setting looking for the perfect balance. Well here is a video of it in operation. Hope this encourages people to continue to try.



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i don't understand this at all...if the coil has no liquid wont that result in one giant hotspot? hot kanthal doesn't taste so good. i understand the vaporizing in the mesh part but.....if i just have a little bit of kanthal exposed away from juice it tastes like crap.

It would seem the pryex distributes the heat better?
 

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As I see, it the number one advantage of this is that no juice contacts the coil as Dan states in the beginning. All genesis tend to get hot spots which end up burning juice with bad taste and possibly health hazards from burnt flavor fumes. This seems to give true vaper with no burning and that is excellent. All the other benefits are great such as length of use of wick and coil, ease of wrapping and cleaning, but true clean vapor is the main advantage.
 

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I would check the resistance in your coil and the power your suppling to it. I just dropped one wrap from my coil and vapor production increase. Vapor production was ok initially, but I wanted more, I am still playing with the coil to power setting looking for the perfect balance. Well here is a video of it in operation. Hope this encourages people to continue to try.
Dan

Dan, Thanks for the update. The drop of a wrap is interesting. What about a coil insulator? Maybe another piece of glass or something slid down over the coil so you have a SS->glass->coil->glass sandwich?

The outer part might work better with something other than glass. Something that could help focus the heat. Sorry I'm just thinking out loud...
 

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I got an e-mail from Susan with Wilmad-labglass.com this morning.
All it said was:
"Thank you again…we got hammered!
Susan"

I just talked to Susan and confessed my sins LOL
She said they had over 100 orders last night and they are freaking out.
But she said it is all good and they have also had international orders, so the word is out :)
Dan
 

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I'm thinking you can up vapor production with an RBA designed around this concept. Larger wick hole, something that will house a 4-5mm OD tube with a 3-4mm wick inside. You'll have the option of using 28awg since the larger diameter will allow for larger, longer coils and you'll have a greater 'chamber' for creating the vapor and a larger top end for releasing said vapor into your welcoming face.
 

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I have been talkin with some UK suppliers, and one thing I noticed in my chats is that Quartz fused silica might be aq better option as is is less prone to heat stress than borosilicate.

I have been talking with a few companies in view to ordering samples, but not got anything just yet.... but I love the idea of a solid glass insulator instead of the silica-mesh tubing used by one genisis seller here in the UK..,
 

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Probably doesn't need saying, but this is experimentation and folks should be careful. Pyrex is not indestructible and if I read correctly these tubes are rated @230C where as Kanthal can reach temps ~1300C. Just like if you poured cold water in a pyrex dish that just come out of a 400f oven will shatter, the race to maximum heat/coil could be dangerous. Someone mentioned using SS mesh as a filter (assuming meant in the drip tip) which may be a good idea till the limits are understood.

All that aside, I registered and ordered from Susan Wilmad. I do like fatter wicks, but don't want to mod any of my DID top caps (for air redirection can use an o-ring to reposition) so have asked if they do custom work as I'd like to have 3.5mm & 2.8mm thin walled tubing to match the default wick hole size.
 
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Like fuel injection for juice! Love it.

While I think it is off topic a bit I see others talking about other possible ideas and I'll throw one out that has come to mind.
A pressurized misting system that used the coil only to heat and atomize the juice further. The head would be complex to build though.
It would require an electrical valve, a needle valve adjustment, and of course a pressure source.
 

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I have been talkin with some UK suppliers, and one thing I noticed in my chats is that Quartz fused silica might be aq better option as is is less prone to heat stress than borosilicate.

I have been talking with a few companies in view to ordering samples, but not got anything just yet.... but I love the idea of a solid glass insulator instead of the silica-mesh tubing used by one genisis seller here in the UK..,

Fused quartz supplier in the states : Clear Fused Quartz Tubing - Wale Apparatus
I'm sure there's others out there...
 
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