I've done your mouthpiece mod to 3 Visions so far (1 reg and 2 mini) and it's working perfectly. I even reamed the hole open in the mouthpiece bridge to open the flow more. I still need to find the perfect sized punch to get the hole the right size so that it will easily slip over the cup. The inside chamfer will be a must if they pursue this idea. That damn cup is never centered. lol
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Too true. But I think a simple, somewhat shallow flared chamfer (like a trumpet bell) could help with that easily enough. Might have to thicken the silicone just a bit to allow for enough of a chamfer and still provide about 1-2mm or so of material to go down over the cup. Wick slots won't be necessary as long as tube length is pretty accurate and still leave at least 2mm for the wick to thread in through the cup slots.
Here is another idea for you to try on a reg E2 if you get the itch. I know you like drip tips so....
Take a regular drip tip and glue (using some of GV's mod glue) on a slightly modified E2 cup seal to the bottom of it. You cut the center hole open more in the cup seal, (like in your video) and trim the entire edge around where the wick notches are similar to my drawings.
edit: Oh yeah.. Forgot that you will need to trim the Tube down a little as well. But you already knew that I'm sure.
Take a regular drip tip and glue (using some of GV's mod glue) on a slightly modified E2 cup seal to the bottom of it. You cut the center hole open more in the cup seal, (like in your video) and trim the entire edge around where the wick notches are similar to my drawings.
edit: Oh yeah.. Forgot that you will need to trim the Tube down a little as well. But you already knew that I'm sure.
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Negative, I have to disagree. If the seal were to be tapered or bell shaped then it would constantly want to push the mouthpiece off or away from the tube. I know this because one of my current mod's I tried that with and cut the hole with a solid tapper. It constantly pushes the mouthpiece up thus allows it to flood if I'm not careful. I still gotta fix that one. lol
Here's a close up of the cup seal area. You can see there is plenty of real estate in there to create a tolerance friendly seal.
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I've actually considered a few ways I might accomplish this. That was one of them but I was hesitant to permanently glue something to the end of a drip tip. But then again the only alternatives I can think of would be more fiddly and wouldn't allow you to refill by simply removing the mouthpiece/drip tip. my other concern was that the tube would be cut down even more, bring the cup even closer to the mouth, which increases the likelihood that your tongue will now be within striking distance for rogue juice spatter leaping off the coil as it's atomized. So this may not be a tremendously practical (or at least comfortable) concept.
Maybe a style of tip like this one or something like it would solve these issues, I just got this tip and it will NOT allow liquids to come back up but only go down 
Holy crap! That thing is crazy! Me likes! And all ya have to do is tie a string thru it and ya got a lanyard. lol Now you'll definitely get pulled over for smokin crack. 
Does that thing lessen the flavor at all?
Does that thing lessen the flavor at all?
Holy crap! That thing is crazy! Me likes! And all ya have to do is tie a string thru it and ya got a lanyard. lol Now you'll definitely get pulled over for smokin crack.
Does that thing lessen the flavor at all?
Doesnt effect the flavor one bit, and not having any liquid back up into the mouth and lips makes this the King of drip tips !
Here ya go Mindfield and Monarch!
I opened the cup seal so there is no restriction and also increased the chamfer size. And just for Monarch I sketched up a nice little drip tip option. lol What can I say I'm a nice guy and just want you to be happy.
Edit: If Chris and Bad decide they want to pursue these tweaks I'm guessing the final product wont be available for some time. They probably need to justify the current tooling by running the current design for a while. But for the standard current Whistle tip design the only tooling required is to modify or make a new tool for the seal. The mouthpiece stays the same minus all the bridges they have in them. Just a guess but the tooling for the seal couldn't be very expensive and just look at all the other crap that is eliminated.
This is all up to the GV boys. It's their game not ours. But with that said, I know they are always open for suggestions because as they have stated before, They want to improve the vapping industry. And god knows they have many times over already!
This idea is almost identical to the One Piece Mouth Piece mod (OPMPM) I have been using for the last 6 weeks or so.
What I do it to take an existing mouth piece, I prefer the old White ones over the new Black ones, and cut a Cone on the inside of it. Then I shorten the tube so that it is about .100” longer than the top of the Ceramic Cup. The “Coned Out” mouth piece is the only seal used. See the dwg below.
It seems to work as well as anything else I have used and it is a whole lot easier to remove for filling.
BTW – You really don’t have to wait for an OEM to adopt your idea vapspaz. The CE2’s come with a Black Rubber-ish Nipple Tip in the box. Or at least the ones I have do. If you cut the tube length down I think you will find that it does about what is shown in your drawings. Minus the Chamfer though.
It works well but I don’t use this tech because, and it could just be me, I taste 185/70 Goodyear Tires every time I use those any of those Black mouth pieces or seals. But like I said, that could just be me.
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Nope, not just you... 
Anything black and rubber in my Fluxo and I can taste it... But I can also taste the metal in metal drip tips... Unfortunate...
And people might think, wow Monarch, your superhero like sense of taste must be awesome when it comes to vaping!
But alas, it is a blessing and a curse. I have to have the least amount of 'stuff' between the coil and my vape-hole or all I can taste is the 'stuff'...
Anything black and rubber in my Fluxo and I can taste it... But I can also taste the metal in metal drip tips... Unfortunate...
And people might think, wow Monarch, your superhero like sense of taste must be awesome when it comes to vaping!
But alas, it is a blessing and a curse. I have to have the least amount of 'stuff' between the coil and my vape-hole or all I can taste is the 'stuff'...
That' why my mod in the OP and vapspaz's very similar diagram are designed to either fit over the cup (in my case) or have a slight chamfer so it has shoulders to sit around (but not inside) the lip of the cup. I did my mod the way I did to fit around the outside of the cup specifically because I wanted zero material over or around the coil to avoid that burnt rubber taste. Also, I hate those nipple tips, they funnel condensation to the tip and into your mouth. I'd much rather use drip tip, which mostly eliminates juice in the mouth.
Nope, not just you...
Anything black and rubber in my Fluxo and I can taste it...
I hear you. Taste is a funny thing. Once you get it in your mind that something taste bad it is hard to get it out of your mind. Even if it doesn't taste bad anymore.
When the CE2's had Clear seals and White mouth pieces, there didn't seem to be any issue with either taste or condensation.
No matter what the cause was, change in geometry or change in material, I say RS/MiT should go back to the original design and material. Just like what the beta Cyclone I tested used.
What? Did I spell it wrong?
cyclone
/ˈsaɪ kloʊn/ Show Spelled[sahy-klohn] Show IPA
noun
1. a large-scale, atmospheric wind-and-pressure system characterized by low pressure at its center and by circular wind motion, counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. Compare anticyclone, extratropical cyclone, tropical cyclone.
2. (not in technical use) tornado.
3. A New CE2 Style Cartomizer that Bad will soon release.
4. Also called cyclone collector, cyclone separator. Machinery . a device for removing small or powdered solids from air, water, or other gases or liquids by centrifugal force.
cyclone
/ˈsaɪ kloʊn/ Show Spelled[sahy-klohn] Show IPA
noun
1. a large-scale, atmospheric wind-and-pressure system characterized by low pressure at its center and by circular wind motion, counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. Compare anticyclone, extratropical cyclone, tropical cyclone.
2. (not in technical use) tornado.
3. A New CE2 Style Cartomizer that Bad will soon release.
4. Also called cyclone collector, cyclone separator. Machinery . a device for removing small or powdered solids from air, water, or other gases or liquids by centrifugal force.
LMAO! I was thinkin it was more like a Michelin brand.
Yup, I think I used one of those for about 10 minutes and chucked it. I can stand the shape, feel and taste of those little guys. I did actually cut an E2 tube down and tried using just that mouthpiece many months ago. It worked but I just couldn't get beyond the shape and feel of them. Like Mindfield said above though. You have to get all the inner crap out of the way and open the air ways as much as possible to get the true flavor and vapor that theses top coils are capable of.My wife and I might be the only people who actually like the new whistle tips on the Visions. idk. But to me I am so damn happy that all I need any more is my PV/carto and a bottle of joose. No more needle and bent paper clips and all the dicking around that went with it.
BTW.... I just killed my first Vision last night after using the snot out of it for 3 weeks. It was my fault. I apparently had too tight of a seal on my Mod mouthpiece as shown in the OP's video. I had noticed that this tight fit would grab the cup when I spun the whistle tip around to line up the way I wanted. I was aware of this so I had been very careful not to "over twist" the cup but last night when I went to clean it and dry burn it met it's maker in the vapor sky.
RIP little buddy.... You will be missed.
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No, I just want to know WTF it is!!! Everytime I hear cyclone, I think... WTF IS IT!!!
I would suggest not using snot in your Vision, it's thicker than VG, and might prevent good wicking...
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BTW.... I just killed my first Vision last night after using the snot out of it for 3 weeks. It was my fault. I apparently had too tight of a seal on my Mod mouthpiece as shown in the OP's video. I had noticed that this tight fit would grab the cup when I spun the whistle tip around to line up the way I wanted. I was aware of this so I had been very careful not to "over twist" the cup but last night when I went to clean it and dry burn it met it's maker in the vapor sky.
RIP little buddy.... You will be missed.
I'm going to get some Vision Extremes myself, and when they die I'm going to take them apart, then re-wick and re-wire/solder with Kanthal and SS 400 mesh. Not exactly as convenient as a proper repairable atty/tank but I'm willing to bet it'll work even better.
LMAO! I was thinkin it was more like a Michelin brand.
My wife and I might be the only people who actually like the new whistle tips on the Visions. idk. But to me I am so damn happy that all I need any more is my PV/carto and a bottle of joose. No more needle and bent paper clips and all the dicking around that went with it.
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I like Whistle Tips over Nipple Tips. But what I don’t like is when the Tip attached to an XL CE2 is longer than and eGo battery.
Whatever a person prefers, Whistle or Round or None, one thing I think most people will agree on is this. The Cup Seal needs to be integrated into the mouth piece. The entire concept of separate Cup Seals / O-Rings / Mouth Pieces has got to go. People are tired of having to use tools to pull seals out or Syringes to poke thru seals to fill.
We have shown many examples of things that will work without the need to tools or syringes. It’s time for an OEM to step up and release something better.
No, I just want to know WTF it is!!! Everytime I hear cyclone, I think... WTF IS IT!!!
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I'm not sure how much I can say about it right now but it is something I tried, a beta version, and it worked quite well.
Absolutely! We know the integrated mouthpiece/seal design works and works quite well. This just needs to get into mass production, because I'll buy the crap out of them.
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