The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage - Part 2

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Recently I've been using the Vapage shifu Hybrid 1.5 on an eGo (18650) or a 1000mah Joye eGo pass/thru; unbelievable amounts of vapor, easy draw (so it's not the atomizer imo that's makes it tight draw on the XL), good flavor.
Put one of the shifu on the UTurn (1.5, 2.0, whatever) and look out... great deal and I'd recommend it to anyone; even a newb. :)
I've only bought the 1.5's and really like them a lot.
 

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I just grabbed an XL from the classifieds and have been reading up on it. This is my first mod of any sort and have never used a bottom feed before. Im a bit confused on a few things and could use some help. Atomizers or Cartomizers ? im not sure witch one to use. If I use an atomizer do I deed to use somethig over it? If I use a Caromizer do I need to get a special kind or will and brand and stile work?
 

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I would order a 2 pak of the new (shifu spec) Vapage Hybrid atomizers ( I prefer the 1.5 Ohm) ... they are the best for the money atomizer you could hope for. imo.
You will also need a simple 510/901 sized drip tip... bottom feeders only use these to vape with (not drip) so you don't need anything fancy.
Best batts are AW IMR 18650 for the XL.
I just grabbed an XL from the classifieds and have been reading up on it. This is my first mod of any sort and have never used a bottom feed before. Im a bit confused on a few things and could use some help. Atomizers or Cartomizers ? im not sure witch one to use. If I use an atomizer do I deed to use somethig over it? If I use a Caromizer do I need to get a special kind or will and brand and stile work?
 

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Tried using IKV atomizers, i306 and 510. does not fire?

did tighten them down enough? try another turn and check if they fire; XL chamber is known for its stiffness in threading an atomizer in there. You don't want to overdo it but just keep testing until it catches.... all other factors being normal (atomizer is good, batts are charged).
 

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Welcome disturbed1. You can use most any carto or atty with the vmod that has 510 threading. Vapage sells one called a silo and Boge is also a popular brand with the Vmod. Just a "regular size" is fine. It's best to use one's that are stainless steel with the vmod.

With the vmod you would use a mouthpiece, called a drip tip----that fits a 510 (Most drip tips sold are that size). You will also need some e-liquid, mod appropriate batteries and a charger (all sold at Vapage and various vendors).

Have you been using an e-cig? Do you know what brand or style it is? That info might help us help you more specifically.

And, Here's a link to the very first vmod video that you might want to look at. It shows the small vmod, not the vmodXL (different sized batteries). The cone style has changed a bit since then, but I think you may find it still quite useful.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-video-reviews/195396-vmod.html
 

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did tighten them down enough? try another turn and check if they fire; XL chamber is known for its stiffness in threading an atomizer in there. You don't want to overdo it but just keep testing until it catches.... all other factors being normal (atomizer is good, batts are charged).

and to add to Ukeman's post --- I think I recall reading that it might be helpful to use a tad of fine steel wool on the threads just in case there are some tiny burrs. Mine just loosened up after a few uses. Now I can actually feel when the connecter pin is just right.
 

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Sound like you are set disturbed1. Your vase shaped drip tip is all you need. No drip shield for the vmod.

The stardust's won't fit on the Vmod. (too fat). You need atties and cartos that are the same size as the cartos you have been using in your tanks. (which is standard diameter---just a few styles are fatter.) And, you don't have to punch the carto.

Use the same ohm gear you have been most happy with. Don't know? Get a small supply in the 2.0 range for starters. Later you can adjust to higher or lower ohms.
 
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I've been switching back and forth with the silo cartomoizer and shifu atomizer. Right now I'm preferring the cartomizer because it's ease of use, and i have been having trouble with the shifu. With the shifu i end up with two solid hits before i have to squeeze the bottle and even then it still taste like im burning. When i look into the shifu and squeeze it barely pushes anything through.
 

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This might help:

Feeding:

1) invert device & wait for juice to fill the bottleneck on the fill bottle. You may even wiggle it a bit & look for the air bubbles.

2) turn upright & squeeze the bottle.
(You will hear the pocket of juice release into the chamber.)

3) dry pull a few times to fill the Hybrid or Silo with juice from the chamber.

4) Vape

5) when atty or carto gets dry, do a couple of dry pulls again.

6) when chamber is empty...see #1
 

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I've been switching back and forth with the silo cartomoizer and shifu atomizer. Right now I'm preferring the cartomizer because it's ease of use, and i have been having trouble with the shifu. With the shifu i end up with two solid hits before i have to squeeze the bottle and even then it still taste like im burning. When i look into the shifu and squeeze it barely pushes anything through.

Teasrose or somebody also helped me with this in addition to what was just posted, prime it before using first time with a few drops. If I have let it sit overngiht, I often do the same thing.

I "am" getting the stiffness on screwing it down thing though. When I change it I have a bit of trouble getting it started again, because I haven't screwed it in tight enough, but my vmod is new so it's still stiff and I didn't know about the steel wool thing which I will now try!

I sure do love the SILOS though. The lack of extra polyfil really makes a cleaner tasting vape for me!
 

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is it atties and cartos or atties or cartos?

An APV is a battery, a connector and a device that heats. E-liquid gets heated and creates vapor. Atomizers are heating elements. Cartomizers are heating elements. You only use one heating element at a time on 99.9% of the apv's made.

But here is a few questions

can I use duel coil cartos?

Yes. I do not recommend them for this device....or any device, actually. Others may disagree.

dus the drip tip plug right in to the atties?

Yes. Just like it fits into the carto's you have been using with your tanks. The difference -- carto's have filler, are cheaper and are made to be disposed of. Atties should last considerably longer and usually do.

Has any one here put a kick under the bottle successfully?

Yes. Search utube for the video. There is also a thread in the "liquid feed mod discussion" that talks about this and probably has a link. I'm no modder, so know no details.

can you put a 2 cents in the xl and still have room for the 18650?

Yes. It is very snug, but it can be done.
 

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Hope Im not being a pain... Battery I know they have to be 18650 but dues the Mah matter? will any 18650 bat work? for instance Li Ion,IMR,AW ect ?
to keep it short,
If you are using LR atomizer or carto, IMR batt is best. It's called a high drain, meaning it supplies sufficient power for LR. Li ion or protected, is ok though. Both will work. I think best to use button top vs flat top batteries.
Btw, aw is a brand name, the most reputable.
 

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to keep it short,
If you are using LR atomizer or carto, IMR batt is best. It's called a high drain, meaning it supplies sufficient power for LR. Li ion or protected, is ok though. Both will work. I think best to use button top vs flat top batteries.
Btw, aw is a brand name, the most reputable.
thanks for the heads up...Is there a local place I could try to find something like this. Like an electronic store?
 
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